The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 9: August 2023 - July 2024

[changemysoul]

She said they had some many things coming up and she couldn't wait to announce it. I can't wait either!

It's good to see her here since she couldn't do the other event with Variety due to the mourning period. It was something I was looking forward too so it was nice to see here. There was no word before hand and I wouldn't have known if I hadn't opened up social media before I went to sleep.

 

[FigTree]

Good luck to her in whatever she is doing. Hopefully, for her, it will be a success.

 

[TLLK]

If that is their niche, good luck to them, lets hope everybody can move on to bigger and better things.

I agree. If this is something that makes her happy and content, then I wish her success.

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of Sussex attended the match between the San Jose Sharks and the Vancouver Canucks in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, yesterday, November 20:


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[Curryong]

Harry looks like he’s having a good time and is mingling with the players.

 

[kalnel]

I was just at The Supermarket for a couple of items. The local American Legion vets were handing out poppies to everyone there. They said that they hand them out for both Memorial Day and Veterans Day and have for years.
There was also an elderly vet, who was going into the store, who recited “In Flanders Fields”.

I attended an event in Washington, DC, on November 11 with the American Legion, the Veterans of Foreign Wars, and several other groups, and they were also giving out poppies for the crowd to wear.

Memorial Day is the American Legion's official "poppy day," but they have given out poppies on Veterans Day and Memorial Day as long as I can remember.

I'm no fan of Meghan's but she did not deserve any criticism for wearing a poppy on Veteran's Day. It was entirely appropriate.

 

[changemysoul]

[.....]

And speaking of Meghan, aside from the Hockey game. Some people have posted photos of them online as they been out and about in Canada and Meghan had another visit to Justice For Girls. They've also posted about it and said she had been keeping in contact with them since her last visit.

And IG25 said that so far they have nearly 100 people that have signed up to volunteer so far. I'm already ready for IG25 and I thought we wouldn't see them in Canada until the one year to go event so this was a happy surprise! If I can get the dates off from work and I have some reliable transpiration, I hope I'm able to sign up before it closes and if not, just be able to go and be apart.

 

[Ista]

A number of posts have been deleted since they had nothing to do with current events and were a rehashing of very old discussions, which is against thread rules. Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

 

[TLLK]

[.....]

And speaking of Meghan, aside from the Hockey game. Some people have posted photos of them online as they been out and about in Canada and Meghan had another visit to Justice For Girls. They've also posted about it and said she had been keeping in contact with them since her last visit.

And IG25 said that so far they have nearly 100 people that have signed up to volunteer so far. I'm already ready for IG25 and I thought we wouldn't see them in Canada until the one year to go event so this was a happy surprise! If I can get the dates off from work and I have some reliable transpiration, I hope I'm able to sign up before it closes and if not, just be able to go and be apart.

IMO it was a good idea for the Sussexes to travel to Vancouver considering the recent news. There's been a shake up with the Vancouver/Whistler IG executives in the past week and concerns about finances. However V/W IG disputes the claims.


https://biv.com/article/2023/11/vancouvers-invictus-games-organization-shakes-executive-team

 

[tommy100]

Apparently the Duke of Westminister has been revealed to be on of Archie's godparents, so says the Sunday Times. It also reports the Due & Duchess won't be invited to the wedding of Hugh Grosvenor, the 7th Duke (and one the 10 richest people in the UK) and Olivia Henson, which is set to take place on 7th June at Chester Cathedral to avoid 'awkwardness' and overshadowing the big day.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/duke-of-westminster-wedding-prince-harry-meghan-william-z9v692srw

(Archived copy https://archive.ph/plzr8)

The Duke is also godfather to Prince George. The King, Queen, Prince & Princess of Wales are expected to attend the wedding.

 

[Somebody]

The article also mentions other godparents. It seems these names were already revealed by the same Sunday Times in 2020:
- Hugh Grosvenor (shared with his cousin prince George)
- Tiggy Pettifer
- Mark Dyer
- Charlie van Straubenzee (his older brother Thomas is godparent to princess Charlotte)

 

[changemysoul]

I think it’s funny they’re trying to run this as an exclusive and not more common sense. The framing of it is extremely funny. One this reporter is one of many that call the Sussex irrelevant but also seemingly desperate to write about them.

Two, I highly doubt they’re bothered but Harry has only stepped foot in the UK for his charity or court cases. He’s already missed two weddings or so, it’s not surprising that he isn’t flying across the world for a wedding + having nothing scheduled in the Uk around that would justify him being there.

IMO, it’s a pointless story but It’s not the UK press if they don’t find a way to write an article in which they salivate at figuring out how they’ll the people the Sussex’s have been snubbed. If he’s Archie’s godfather, then it’s not a snub as he’d be privy to Harry not wanting to be the UK. But it’s the tone, as if Harry and Meghan are going to be crying when Harry has already skipped two & has quickly moved in and out when he did need to be in the UK for whatever reason.

But, if that logic was followed then there wouldn’t be an article to write.

 

[TLLK]

Apparently the Duke of Westminister has been revealed to be on of Archie's godparents, so says the Sunday Times. It also reports the Due & Duchess won't be invited to the wedding of Hugh Grosvenor, the 7th Duke (and one the 10 richest people in the UK) and Olivia Henson, which is set to take place on 7th June at Chester Cathedral to avoid 'awkwardness' and overshadowing the big day.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/duke-of-westminster-wedding-prince-harry-meghan-william-z9v692srw

(Archived copy https://archive.ph/plzr8)

The Duke is also godfather to Prince George. The King, Queen, Prince & Princess of Wales are expected to attend the wedding.

I am not surprised by this revelation that the current DoW is Archie's Godfather when you consider the long connection between the King and the Grosvenor family.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

I am not surprised by this revelation that the current DoW is Archie's Godfather when you consider the long connection between the King and the Grosvenor family.

It’s shocking to me because Hugh is discreet and private, I don’t see how close he would be Harry to be chosen as a godparent to his child because of the differences in personalities and it’s a little awkward because he’s George’s godfather as well. Plus in spite of the Sussexes refusing to reveal the names, the Daily Mail already somehow got names like Tiggy so how is the news now coming out that Hugh was one of the godparents?

 

[Hans-Rickard]

It’s shocking to me because Hugh is discreet and private, I don’t see how close he would be Harry to be chosen as a godparent to his child because of the differences in personalities and it’s a little awkward because he’s George’s godfather as well. Plus in spite of the Sussexes refusing to reveal the names, the Daily Mail already somehow got names like Tiggy so how is the news now coming out that Hugh was one of the godparents?

I must say the same, IF that is true.… Grosvenor comes off to me as a very shy, private, and non-controversial guy…. Everything that Harry has turned out to not be.

I know The King is a close friend of the Dowager Duchess and was a close friend of the late Duke… But friendships isn’t always inherited

 

[Curryong]

Hugh Grosvenor joined in hunting parties in Germany with the Princes before Harry’s marriage, borrowing his father’s private plane to travel there and back.

And he is nearer in age to Harry than he is to William who is about nine years older. He was close enough to be named among Harry’s inner circle of male friends in a Vogue article from 2018.

https://www.vogue.com.au/culture/fe...mage-gallery/ddfccd69a8239bc981c921f457ee491f

 

[Granada]

Changemysoul, I must respectively disagree with your thoughts that The Sussex's are not "bothered" by the lack of an invite to Hugh Grosvenor Wedding.
I COMPLETELY agree that Meghan could care less, (relieved ! ) but I believe on *some* level to Harry, it could mean something. I would think it must, to me, anyways. Harry's own fabulous Wedding, celebrating with ALL his friends and ALL things familiar in his life, HIS world, IN The UK, was a mere 5 years ago.
So much changed, so much forsaken.

As each year passes, and the ties with his family are now seemingly fractured beyond repair, his lifelong bonds with friends are it appears collateral damage too.

I just now wonder, as he *might*, are his children, the grandchildren of The King, going to have ANY familial connection to The UK ? And all that richly entails ? The wonders of their own Royal Heritage? The magic "Family homes" of Balmoral, Windsor Castle or Sandringham? That are renowned internationally ? Where Harry spend so many Holidays.
Events, as we have unfortunately seen this week, just seem to make everything I mentioned seem more elusive than ever.

Maybe as we enter The Christmas and Holiday Season, I'm simply being sentimental and nostalgic.....but I do remember my previously VERY warm feelings for Harry and feeling a bit wistful for the old him.

 

[Somebody]

There are a few weddings you would definitely make sure to attend (if you have the means to do so) even if you live on the other side of the world; and the wedding of one of the godparents of your child is one of them!

If Harry had 'just' been living in California, without all the issues surrounding it, he would most certainly have come over for this wedding.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Hugh Grosvenor joined in hunting parties in Germany with the Princes before Harry’s marriage, borrowing his father’s private plane to travel there and back.

And he is nearer in age to Harry than he is to William who is about nine years older. He was close enough to be named among Harry’s inner circle of male friends in a Vogue article from 2018.

https://www.vogue.com.au/culture/fe...mage-gallery/ddfccd69a8239bc981c921f457ee491f

My point was not about the age difference because of course the age difference is wider with William and Hugh, but about the personalities, of course he knows both brothers, but Harry and Hugh have very different personalities. The article you posted just said that he’s part of Harry’s circle and he’s close to the royals not just Harry. Well, he’s not part of Harry’s usual friend and age group like Tommy Inskip, Jake Warren, Van Straubenzee etc that most people think of. Unlike most of Harry’s close friends, he didn’t go to Eton. Even though the age difference between William and Hugh is significant, I can see them having more in common because they’re both discreet, and private people, both are leading figures of their families, William is involved with the Duchy of Cornwall and it’s enterprises, Hugh is Chairman of his family property group and has worked at a company not related to property. Hugh and Harry are at very different positions in life so they have very little in common other than familial relations and hunting. Hugh isn’t interested in celebrity lifestyle.

 

[TLLK]

Changemysoul, I must respectively disagree with your thoughts that The Sussex's are not "bothered" by the lack of an invite to Hugh Grosvenor Wedding.
I COMPLETELY agree that Meghan could care less, (relieved ! ) but I believe on *some* level to Harry, it could mean something. I would think it must, to me, anyways. Harry's own fabulous Wedding, celebrating with ALL his friends and ALL things familiar in his life, HIS world, IN The UK, was a mere 5 years ago.
So much changed, so much forsaken.

As each year passes, and the ties with his family are now seemingly fractured beyond compare, his lifelong bonds with friends are it appears collateral damage too.

I just now wonder, as he *might*, are his children, the grandchildren of The King, going to have ANY familial connection to The UK ? And all that richly entails ? The wonders of their own Royal Heritage? The magic "Family homes" of Balmoral, Windsor Castle or Sandringham? That are renowned internationally ? Where Harry spend so many Holidays.
Events, as we have unfortunately seen this week, just seem to make everything I mentioned seem more elusive than ever.
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Maybe as we enter The Christmas and Holiday Season, I'm simply being sentimental and nostalgic.....but I do remember my previously VERY warm feelings for Harry and feeling a bit wistful for the old him.

I have to agree Granada that Harry is likely missing the bonds of friendship that he's enjoyed for decades. Especially at very happy occasions such as weddings. He's watched Hugh mature over the years and both he and William felt close enough to ask him to be the Godfather to their first born. On some level, I believe that Harry is going to be sad to miss this event.

 

[HenRach Dominion]

Maybe, just maybe, you can be close friends with people who are different than you are. As an introvert who tends to naturally attract extroverted friends, it doesn't surprise me at all that HRH The Duke of Sussex and the Duke of Westminster are close friends. As for not being invited to a wedding, if they are still as close as the godparentage implies, then they'll still be friends. If not, then not attending the wedding would be the best for both of them.

Many people discuss how HRH The Duke of Sussex has lost so many connections with family and friends over the past three years. As stated above, however, HRH The Duke of Sussex has done nothing publicly to even be present in Great Britain longer than necessary, which tells me one of two things. One, although losing those connections hurt, it's not worth returning to the pain he left/the peace he's found in the States with his wife and children. Two, we don't know anything about his current relationships and are forming our opinions on them based on incomplete, biased information.

And frankly, someone not being invited to a wedding is not news. The British media, once again, are riding on the coattails of TRH The Sussexes because the BRF are drama-free and that doesn't sell papers.

I suspect that HRH The Duke of Sussex will attend the wedding alone, and the stream of "Harry looking wistfully at his family while they greet him with cold indifference" and "Meghan hiding in America and keeping the kids away from their family" stories to come out in droves.

 

[Granada]

HenRach Dominion,

Harry will NOT be attending Hugh Grosvenor's Wedding, in ANY case. The Sussex's were simply not invited.

It does seem to be newsworthy, for anyone that is or was considered a close friend, especially one chosen to be a Godfather, not to invite Harry to his Wedding. It just shows how badly relationships all around have deteriorated. I certainly find it interesting, as it shows another "link" broken, in Harry's UK life and circle of friends there.

According to the Article, their presence would cause to much tension and controversy, with Charles, Camilla, William and Kate all invited and expected to attend. A distraction for Hugh's bride too. Drama certainly not wanted on her Wedding Day.

I honestly doubt that the "coattails" of publicity in the "public eye" that the Sussex's envisioned for themselves, their place and reputation, a few mere years ago, would they EVER have imagined as playing out this way.

A Soap Opera Indeed.

 

[shady lady]

Hugh Grosvenor joined in hunting parties in Germany with the Princes before Harry’s marriage, borrowing his father’s private plane to travel there and back.

And he is nearer in age to Harry than he is to William who is about nine years older. He was close enough to be named among Harry’s inner circle of male friends in a Vogue article from 2018.

https://www.vogue.com.au/culture/fe...mage-gallery/ddfccd69a8239bc981c921f457ee491f

If they were close then he must be very disappointed with how Harry has turned out. He probably doesn't want intimate details of his wedding being put into a book or a TV whineathon, and who can blame him? ?

 

[rominet09]

If they were close then he must be very disappointed with how Harry has turned out. He probably doesn't want intimate details of his wedding being put into a book or a TV whineathon, and who can blame him? ?

How right you are, they are not to be trusted.

 

[Kaye1850]

I think it’s funny they’re trying to run this as an exclusive and not more common sense. The framing of it is extremely funny. One this reporter is one of many that call the Sussex irrelevant but also seemingly desperate to write about them.

IMO, it’s a pointless story but It’s not the UK press if they don’t find a way to write an article in which they salivate at figuring out how they’ll the people the Sussex’s have been snubbed. If he’s Archie’s godfather, then it’s not a snub as he’d be privy to Harry not wanting to be the UK. But it’s the tone, as if Harry and Meghan are going to be crying when Harry has already skipped two & has quickly moved in and out when he did need to be in the UK for whatever reason.

But, if that logic was followed then there wouldn’t be an article to write.

I understand you see this almost as tabloid media, but it’s The Times for goodness’ sake.
I see it as The Empire Strikes Back.

 

[changemysoul]

Changemysoul, I must respectively disagree with your thoughts that The Sussex's are not "bothered" by the lack of an invite to Hugh Grosvenor Wedding.
I COMPLETELY agree that Meghan could care less, (relieved ! ) but I believe on *some* level to Harry, it could mean something. I would think it must, to me, anyways. Harry's own fabulous Wedding, celebrating with ALL his friends and ALL things familiar in his life, HIS world, IN The UK, was a mere 5 years ago.
So much changed, so much forsaken.

As each year passes, and the ties with his family are now seemingly fractured beyond repair, his lifelong bonds with friends are it appears collateral damage too.

I just now wonder, as he *might*, are his children, the grandchildren of The King, going to have ANY familial connection to The UK ? And all that richly entails ? The wonders of their own Royal Heritage? The magic "Family homes" of Balmoral, Windsor Castle or Sandringham? That are renowned internationally ? Where Harry spend so many Holidays.
Events, as we have unfortunately seen this week, just seem to make everything I mentioned seem more elusive than ever.

Maybe as we enter The Christmas and Holiday Season, I'm simply being sentimental and nostalgic.....but I do remember my previously VERY warm feelings for Harry and feeling a bit wistful for the old him.

That is an idea and way to look at it. And given it's fair, I can't deny it might be true but but overall. I don't think it is. And that's based on that fact if he's actually Archie's god-father.

If he is and reasonably keeps in touch with Harry about Archie if nothing-else, then he'd have the foresight to know if Harry would be bothered by not being invited or not. He'd know if Harry would feel traveling across the world the world for a wedding when he's missed others with no other events on his calendar to make the trip worth wild. A wedding -despite how close the people might be or might've been- isn't his father's coronation or even something like the well child awards.

There are people who move across the world with less drama and etc as them, ofc they miss home from time to time but they deal with it. It's only in the case of Harry that people want to act like it's the most earth-shattering thing to happen and desperately cling to the idea of him being and miserable and sad.

Maybe he is wistful, maybe there will be a passing sadness at not going but I don't quite believe he's as broken up and feeling snubbed as the The Times writer wants him to be or is trying to imply.

I don't know about much he'll be sad that his kids didn't get to see castle's and etc but they have relationship with their cousins in Eugenie and they have their Spencer family members so I think they'll be alright. Not to say Harry won't miss somethings but it's normal and not as dramatic as it's been played as.

 

[changemysoul]

There are a few weddings you would definitely make sure to attend (if you have the means to do so) even if you live on the other side of the world; and the wedding of one of the godparents of your child is one of them!

If Harry had 'just' been living in California, without all the issues surrounding it, he would most certainly have come over for this wedding.

He does have the means but I just don't see it being worth it to him, unless he had other things going on the UK he needed to be here for like WellChild.

And you can't say he would certainly be coming over if he had 'just' been. Many people have important people close to them but live very far away from each other. It doesn't mean they hop on a plane every time there is a big event. And that's applying the logic to him 'just' living in Cali. But seeing as he's not and him getting in and out of the country when given the chance, then I don't think he'd be that bothered. Maybe a little bothered but bothered enough to warrent an entire article.

 

[changemysoul]

I understand you see this almost as tabloid media, but it’s The Times for goodness’ sake.
I see it as The Empire Strikes Back.

And it being The Times prevents it from falling into agenda and narratives. I don't think so. It's still a center-right paper that might poke at the establishment from time to time but they much support it. As far as I'm aware, papers like The Telegraph aren't considered tabloids but it has produced some tabloid like articles. And given the writer for this piece for the times...I have my doubts.

I didn't say all of the information was wrong and etc, I said that it's pushing this narrative about the Sussex's, more so Harry, being snubbed and upset and etc. In my eyes, even for the times, it's a pointless article that was only produced to set a tone and poke more. Such a great, non-tabloid paper doesn't need to write a story about Harry not going to a wedding. If any photos came out, we would've seen that he wasn't there. They have aim they're trying to achieve with it and this particular article is no different than tabloids when they want to stir up something.

 

[Lee-Z]

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I don't know about much he'll be sad that his kids didn't get to see castle's and etc but they have relationship with their cousins in Eugenie and they have their Spencer family members so I think they'll be alright. Not to say Harry won't miss somethings but it's normal and not as dramatic as it's been played as.

i do occassionally wonder how the Spencer family feel about how H&M are publicly talking about Diana's other son and his family...

I can't imagine they are thrilled...

 

[Queen Claude]

While the story was in The Times and I don't have a problem with it being reported and have my own thoughts on the matter, to me it is a gossip / tabloid story.