"Spare" memoir by the Duke of Sussex (2023)

[Princess Luna]

That's just public face of Harry. He has shown this jolly fun Harry image to the public at times for years but it is not the real man.

So you know Harry personally then?

 

[TLLK]

You Gov UK's recent poll on the Sussexes' popularity taken over January 5th and 6th.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-public-hits-record-low-ahead-of-book-release

 

[Nico]

So you know Harry personally then?

No we don't, but surely his actions, book and interviews gave us enough material so see a new face (and not a pretty one) of the once dashing and beloved prince.

 

[HighnessN]

Oh, where do I even start!

Who is in charge of their PR because this is a disaster! No offence, the "suits" at the palace were doing a way better job for H&M than whomever they have now.
For the past couple of years, they have been telling us about the lies that have been written about them & how they are now free to tell "their truth".
Yet, the past few weeks with the Netflix "docuseries" & this book, they have confirmed a lot of these stories as truth!
They should have stopped at the Oprah interview & focused on their charitable plans that they had told us about. Instead, they continue with this mostly one-side public war with the family that has them continously shooting themselves in the foot.

The one theme/complaint about them when they were still in the UK was how difficult they were to work/deal with & that is evident to see now.

I think they need to stay away from public life for a couple of years & them slowly come back more focused on charities & less themselves & the royals

 

[Granada]

Denville, totally agree.
And in excerpts from the GMA Interview with Michael Strahan, and I'm paraphrasing, Harry laments that it didnt have to be this way, how it all played out with the rejection of half in-half out.

He also curiously and VERY INTERESTINGLY mentions that he never really sees himself as able to return to work as a Royal in the UK, BUT he states, that "if there is something in the future that WE CAN DO to support The Commonwealth, then that's of course on the table".

So there you have it. I suspect that is the Sussex's newest ploy and offer......

Give us the Commonwealth Ambassador Roles back and ALL the criticism and attacks on the Family and Institution stop. A cease fire. No more Books or Interviews.
A big giant reconciliation that Harry feels would resonate "Globally" Harry laughingly says. I've got to give them credit. They just won't let go or let up on being in some prominent Role. On their terms ......of course.

I never thought the HI-H0 was that anyway... twenty percent in more likely, pomp and circumstance UK appearances but Global Attention as Commonwealth Figures.

 

[Moran]

Did he mention when the Commonwealth stopped being Empire No2? I can't follow all of the new historical development they introduce!

 

[Royalist.in.NC]

What????

Now that's too good :

The Duke of U-turns! Harry now claims he has 'huge compassion for Camilla' and sympathized with her being the 'third person in his parents' marriage' - less than 12 hours after branding her 'DANGEROUS' and a 'villain' in searing 60 Minutes interview

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...huge-compassion-Camilla-branding-villain.html

"Speaking to host Michael Strahan, who asked Harry 'what [Camilla] had done' to prompt both he and his brother to 'beg' Charles not to marry her, the Duke of Sussex insisted he actually sympathized with her role as the 'third person in his parents' marriage', claiming that he 'doesn't look at her as an evil stepmother'.

'I have a huge amount of compassion for her, you know, being the third person within my parents' marriage,' Harry told Strahan - despite telling 60 Minutes' Anderson Cooper last night that Camilla's affair with Charles made her a 'villain'.

When asked where his relationship with Camilla stands today, Harry conceded that they 'haven't spoken for a long time', but added that he 'loves every member of his family' and that when he and the Queen Consort 'see each other, we're perfectly pleasant'."

Someone to save the poor "H" from himself. Please !

Huge compassion?? Really???

 

[Mbruno]

You Gov UK's recent poll on the Sussexes' popularity taken over January 5th and 6th.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-public-hits-record-low-ahead-of-book-release

Unfortunately the article appears to be behind a paywall.

 

[An Ard Ri]

You Gov UK's recent poll on the Sussexes' popularity taken over January 5th and 6th.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-public-hits-record-low-ahead-of-book-release

That's really no surprise and will continue in a downward spiral.

 

[Prinsara]

He doesn't look at her as an evil stepmother.

Just someone who would leave 'bodies in the streets' trying to improve her own reputation.

Projection, much? Or simply not being able to keep up with every half-truth or insinuation they sling?

 

[Denville]

So you know Harry personally then?

I've watched him for years and realised sine his marriage and before, that he was capable of beng Jolly Fun Harry in public but from what he himself said, he was a lot different in private.

 

[Denville]

He doesn't look at her as an evil stepmother.

Just someone who would leave 'bodies in the streets' trying to improve her own reputation.

Projection, much? Or simply not being able to keep up with every half-truth or insinuation they sling?

He does seem to forget things. thats the trouble with telling a lot of fibs, except that the public also have a short vague memory

 

[Prinsara]

He does seem to forget things. thats the trouble with telling a lot of fibs, except that the public also have a short vague memory

Not 'less than 24 hours short', in the case of the public. Sorry, Harold.

 

[valeas]

Thanks Granada for reminding us to the " global effect a reconciliation would show" LOL,
just another proof how unaware Harry is of his current situation and how the two manage to destroy themselves.

The " matron", well honestly it's nice to read all your comments, but practically in most societies nonone really cares about disabled people- just like Harry.

The accident, well, I can't help it but laugh if a man who just told the world he was addicted to various drugs like alcohol etc wants to be taken serious saying " a drink or two" have no impact on driving. Txs God, he (hopefully) did not kill somebody while in his drug/alcohol period (now over?) I wonder how he got into the military, but as a prince he surely stunned everybody and wasn't much tested like other recruits ;-)


I still can't help myself wondering how stupid, badly educated (Eton what's wrong with you) and yes, maybe the RH is to blame here, Harry is. Nobody (in the RH, too) ever seemed to explain him how things work.
Just one example: it's totally normal that siblings at same school (esp. teenagers) ignore each other, it is NOT evil jealous mentally ill Wills.

Let's see how long Meghan will manage to milk the cow but stand the need to constantly mother this spoiled and unintelligent man she married. Making money is one thing, living with such a guy is another.

The worst to me is, the two children who have to grow up in such circumstances.

If I had responsibility for the Wales's children, cut contact to H&M and their kids for all times, imagine what harm the Montecito gang could do to them in the future and won't stop aslong as they get possibility to be part od the RF. A lifelong burden to William&C yes, but stop it please for the new generation, they are young enough to forget Uncle Harry.

 

[Denville]

Thanks Granada for reminding us to the " global effect a reconciliation would show" LOL,
just another proof how unaware Harry is of his current situation and how the two manage to destroy themselves.

The " matron", well honestly it's nice to read all your comments, but practically in most societies nonone really cares about disabled people- just like Harry.

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Er I would like ot know what society there is where its OK to mock sick and disabled people? Of course as a kid, Harry and many of his chums might have been a hearltess lot who thought that disability was funny and te woman was very plain, but generally kids learn to outgrow that sort of callous yobbish phase and its absolutely NOT ON for a grown man to bring it up again, unless he did so to apologise.

 

[An Ard Ri]

When I think of Harry and Meghan now (having once been Harry and Meghan fans) ,I'm reminded of the words from the Crown Season 4...

They know that you are a spoilt, immature man, endlessly complaining unnecessarily, married to a spoilt, immature woman, endlessly complaining unnecessarily. And we are all heartily sick of it.

 

[Denville]

Camilla "being the third person within my parents' marriage" is the telling phrase he's repeated again. It's one of the worst things he could say about Camilla and of course he knows that. It conjures up that image of Diana on camera saying "There were three of us in this marriage so it was a bit crowded." He might say that he has huge compassion for Camilla but his action in bringing that phrase up again undermines his words as he's clearly taking a swipe at both Camilla and Charles to remind everyone what they did to his mother.

Not sure if that's it. It may be that he has been reminded that he claimed to love Camilla not so amany years ago, and he's toning it down.

 

[Nico]

Not sure if that's it. It may be that he has been reminded that he claimed to love Camilla not so amany years ago, and he's toning it down.

"Love her to bits" to be exact. Seems recollection may vary for "H", once again.

 

[Granada]

Harry and Meghan are terrific at being passive -aggressive.
Great imagery to Haz, "bodies in the street" I take to be a Diana reference....a slam against Camilla who Harry does hold responsible ultimately for Diana's death.

I have known of Families that were torn apart by brutal divorces. One Parent checked out physically, emotionally or both. Just gone.
The Family home sold with moves necessary, new Schools and reduced financial resources. Painful restructuring needed. Young children's WHOLE world being turned upside down.

Or Families dealing with a Parent's long lingering Cancer diagnosis and ultimate death. Or a family dealing with a Parent in the throes of severe drug addiction.

Like Harry is the only Person to have to deal with loss and mental anguish. The Diana fixation is absolutely unhealthy. He appears unhinged by it.

It is beyond belief that he can't stop painting him see as a Victim. Its now pathetic.

 

[Alison H]

Anyone in public life, be that the Royal Family, politicians, pop stars or anyone else, is largely reliant on public opinion, and that in turn is largely dependent on the media. So they have to work with the media. That's not "selling their soul to the devil": it's just the way it works. Why doesn't Harry get that? And why is it a problem for other people to work with the media but not for him to put very private, intimate info in the public domain?

And where does he go from here? More whingeing?

 

[Denville]

Anyone in public life, be that the Royal Family, politicians, pop stars or anyone else, is largely reliant on public opinion, and that in turn is largely dependent on the media. So they have to work with the media. That's not "selling their soul to the devil": it's just the way it works. Why doesn't Harry get that? And why is it a problem for other people to work with the media but not for him to put very private, intimate info in the public domain?

And where does he go from here? More whingeing?

It is rather funny tat he has claimed all hte time that the RF cosy up to the media and put out stories via favoured reporters etc, but he has put out more poisonous stories in a few years than the RF did in 100 years. He only dislikes cosying up to the media when it involves any negative PR for him

 

[Muhler]

I have been reading some of the points Harry have made in the interviews.

He's rambling. There is no consistency and he will change his stand 180 degrees at a moments notice. His "truth" is in the present. What he has said before does not exist once he has said something else. - Until he says something new that contradicts what he last said. Then that becomes the "truth".
I bet ten psychologists couldn't make him admit that he has said something that totally contradicts something he has said previously.

But good grief! These, rather soft, interviews haven't exactly helped Harry and Meghan, on the contrary!
Wonder if he would suffer some kind of breakdown or throw a tantrum, if he got in the hands of a more aggressive journalist?

Anyway, William must be ballistic! If one of my sisters said about my wife what Harry has said about Kate, she'd better come up with a very convincing note from her psychologist and then I might consider forgiving her - eventually...
And King Charles must deeply hurt. What was said about Queen Camilla was downright mean. Not just hurtful but vicious.

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[An Ard Ri]

And where does he go from here? More whingeing?

Hopefully not and hopefully Netflix will drop the pair of them.

 

[Muhler]

Hopefully not and hopefully Netflix will drop the pair of them.

Netflix won't drop them. This is developing into a goldmine beyond, I'm convinced, their wildest dreams.
I believe the management at Netflix are right now giving thanks to whatever demon they worship.

 

[maria-olivia]

This Evening TF1 (french TV) will broadcast the interview , I suppose translated in french.

 

[Lilyflo]

Not sure if that's it. It may be that he has been reminded that he claimed to love Camilla not so amany years ago, and he's toning it down.

He loves his father and his brother but it doesn't stop him trashing them. He could love Camilla for making his father happy, while still resenting her for her part in his parents' unhappy marriage and also for sacrificing him in aid of her own PR.

I'm sure we can all think of occasions in our own families where simmering resentments and sharp barbs occur amongst people who love each other.

 

[Denville]

He loves his father and his brother but it doesn't stop him trashing them. He could love Camilla for making his father happy, while still resenting her for her part in his parents' unhappy marriage and also for sacrificing him in aid of her own PR.

I'm sure we can all think of occasions in our own families where simmering resentments and sharp barbs occur amongst people who love each other.

I doubt very much if he loves Camilla... but he said he did because he was cosying up to Dad at the time. and honestly given the persistent venomous attacks on the brother who has been part of his life since he was a baby, do you think he really loves William?
THis isnt a case of occasional sharp words in private, this is a long tirade against his father, step mother, brother and brother's wife....for money

 

[Saragli]

I'm astonished by Harry's words on Camilla, especially the "bodies in the street line". Its so reckless and egregious. He has said so many mad things but this one really crosses a line.

This is not how a happy and content person acts.

 

[Lilyflo]

I doubt very much if he loves Camilla... but he said he did because he was cosying up to Dad at the time. and honestly given the persistent venomous attacks on the brother who has been part of his life since he was a baby, do you think he really loves William?
THis isnt a case of occasional sharp words in private, this is a long tirade against his father, step mother, brother and brother's wife....for money

The love he might have for Camilla will certainly not be anything as deep and meaningful as the love he has for his father and brother but she's made his father happy for years so when he previously said he loved her, I believed him.

Yes I do think he loves William because I know it's possible to love people at the same time as being very angry or resentful towards them over a long period of time.

 

[Curbside]

I doubt very much if he loves Camilla... but he said he did because he was cosying up to Dad at the time. and honestly given the persistent venomous attacks on the brother who has been part of his life since he was a baby, do you think he really loves William?
THis isnt a case of occasional sharp words in private, this is a long tirade against his father, step mother, brother and brother's wife....for money

Well, the British press makes a ton of money off Harry and Meghan. I can’t fault them for telling their side of the story. No one seems to complain that the Daily Mail, the Sun, et al publish mean-spirited and untrue stories about H&M.