Netflix Docu-Series of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (2022)

[AC21091968]

The Sussexes' Netflix documentary has somehow made an impact on the regulation of streaming services. Apparently the UK Government is setting new laws to allow OfCom to take on Netflix and allow to issue fine of up to £250,000. The article itself has mentioned about the mismatch between the footage/picture used and what was said in the documentary, as well as the Queen Elizabeth's (then Princess Elizabeth) 21st birthday speech being edited.

Rishi Sunak will give the broadcasting watchdog the power to take on Netflix for the first time, amid a row about accuracy in the Harry & Meghan documentary.

Ministers are planning to pass a new law that would bring all streaming giants under the jurisdiction of Ofcom and hand it the power to impose fines of up to £250,000.

Viewers would also be able to complain to Ofcom about shows on Netflix, Amazon Prime and other services and see them investigated for breaches of a new code of conduct.

The plans are expected as soon as next year and will form part of the Government's Media Bill, which will also promote "distinctively British content", The Telegraph understands.

It comes after Netflix was criticised for misleading viewers in Harry & Meghan, a six-part documentary series fronted by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and released over the last fortnight.

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Under the broadcasting rules outlined in Ofcom’s code, “factual programmes or items or portrayals of factual matters must not materially mislead the audience”.

On the day Harry & Meghan was released, the regulator was forced to issue a statement reminding the public that while it was “sometimes contacted by people who’ve seen something they found harmful or offensive on a streaming service like Netflix”, it was powerless to take any action.

Some Conservative MPs have criticised the Harry & Meghan documentary particularly on the misleading footage.

On Saturday, Tory MPs welcomed the Government’s plans and said they could put a stop to misleading statements from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in future, including their use of stock footage.

Bob Seely, a Conservative MP who is planning a parliamentary bill to strip the couple of their titles, said new rules would mean the couple would “not be allowed to get away with some of the obvious misrepresentation in the use of images, claiming the images were representing one thing when in fact they were entirely unconnected with Meghan and Harry”.

“I do think on principle that Netflix and other video streaming services should have the same ethical standards as other broadcasters like the BBC,” he said.

Tim Loughton MP, who has criticised the Duke and Duchess for their broadsides against other members of the Royal family, said the documentary had used “highly questionable” editing and should have been regulated in the same way as content from a broadcaster like the BBC, ITV or Channel 4.

“They should be subject to the same criteria,” he said. “That’s the problem with anything that’s now streamed or anything that’s now available on the internet.

“They’re not subject to the same publishing criteria as if it were a hard copy or in the terrestrial media.”

Rishi Sunak to take on Netflix amid Harry & Meghan accuracy row
Ofcom's powers to be extended to include streaming services with ability to impose fines of up to £250,000
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-take-netflix-amid-harry-meghan-accuracy-row/
Archive link: https://archive.vn/NEpmU

It is a bit ironic and going a full circle that the Sussexes' Netflix documentary have been accused along lines of "spreading misinformation", whilst the couple themselves are passionate in tackling misinformation on the social media platform.

 

[Denville]

What's needed is a team of highly skilled UK diplomats, experienced in high stakes negotiations to work through all the grievances on both sides and bring about a peaceful resolution. Everyone would need to be committed to the process, willing to learn and prepared to adjust their perspective. They can all afford to finance it and the only things that would prevent it happening would be a lack of imagination, courage and humility.

What on earth for? Harry and Megahn have left the UK, they will almost certianly never return. THey dont want a reconciliation, if it means giving up their TV shows etc.

 

[Hallo girl]

The Sussexes' Netflix documentary has somehow made an impact on the regulation of streaming services. Apparently the UK Government is setting new laws to allow OfCom to take on Netflix and allow to issue fine of up to £250,000. The article itself has mentioned about the mismatch between the footage/picture used and what was said in the documentary, as well as the Queen Elizabeth's (then Princess Elizabeth) 21st birthday speech being edited.



Some Conservative MPs have criticised the Harry & Meghan documentary particularly on the misleading footage.


Rishi Sunak to take on Netflix amid Harry & Meghan accuracy row
Ofcom's powers to be extended to include streaming services with ability to impose fines of up to £250,000
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...-take-netflix-amid-harry-meghan-accuracy-row/
Archive link: https://archive.vn/NEpmU

It is a bit ironic and going a full circle that the Sussexes' Netflix documentary have been accused along lines of "spreading misinformation", whilst the couple themselves are passionate in tackling misinformation on the social media platform.

Very ironic when according to Finding Freedom they contact others on the social media platform and thank them.

 

[Heavs]

I agree that it might actually be in everyone's' best interests if they sat down with a mediator who knows the BRF inside out. For their mental health if nothing else because this *isn't* healthy or happy However:

From everything thy have said (from their own mouths and via Scobie in FF) they both define "support" as 100% agreement with whatever they want. Even well meant explanations or alternative offers don't count.

Harry has made it abundantly clear that he believes he is entitled to taxpayer security for life (and is even suing the government!) and that he wants Duchy money.

They have never once said anything nice about "the other side" or considered anyone else's POV but their own. They have never acknowledged that they could even have done things differently. Everything in the last 3 years is about justification. Not even "we could have handled Mexgit better".

They have no regard for other people's privacy or confidentiality. The second things didn't go their way we'd have another Gayle King moment about "not productive" talks and more material for the next "bombshell interview".

Given that it seems impossible for talks to work out. And besides, what is there to say. They aren't going to get a public apology beyond they "we're sorry to year (for the first time) that H&M struggled and wish they well" from Oprah because a lot of what they claim is lies or one sentence out of a whole page of writing.

 

[Lilyflo]

The irony is that a great deal of the aides are from the civil service and specifically the diplomatic world.

The problem as I see it is that in some peoples eyes the only solution is that they get their own way.

Yes I agree but these negotiations would require a team of diplomats outside of the royal households. Most political negotiations have to deal with at least one side seeing the solution as them having their own way, which is why the negotiators must be highly skilled and experienced.

 

[Lilyflo]

What on earth for? Harry and Megahn have left the UK, they will almost certianly never return. THey dont want a reconciliation, if it means giving up their TV shows etc.

Several reasons:

It's in the best interest of the monarchy to end this continuous soap opera;

It's painful for Charles to be estranged from his son;

I'm sure it's painful for Harry to be estranged from his own family.

 

[Denville]

what woudl it be for? THey dont want to come back nor do they want a reconcilation. They are of no importance now to the RF.

 

[Moran]

Yes I agree but these negotiations would require a team of diplomats outside of the royal households. Most political negotiations have to deal with at least one side seeing the solution as them having their own way, which is why the negotiators must be highly skilled and experienced.

Why would the RF want to "negotiate" with Harry and Meghan? What do they gain? If it's a political thing, it amounts to zero. The Sussexes are no threat to the monarchy. If it's personal, surely it would require not diplomats but psychologists.

No matter what Charles does (and at this point we have no idea if he's really this forgiving or welcoming, or fed up and following a strategy), he can't have them back in any meaningful official capacity. They can't represent the monarchy after the contempt to it they demonstrated. And for the personal part, no negotiators are needed. Just psychologist.

I see no gain for the RF of any kind of negotiations. With this book, they fired their last arrows and they have nothing more.

 

[Hallo girl]

Several reasons:

It's in the best interest of the monarchy to end this continuous soap opera;

It's painful for Charles to be estranged from his son;

I'm sure it's painful for Harry to be estranged from his own family.

I am not sure what it is they want.

 

[yukari]

What's needed is a team of highly skilled UK diplomats, experienced in high stakes negotiations to work through all the grievances on both sides and bring about a peaceful resolution. Everyone would need to be committed to the process, willing to learn and prepared to adjust their perspective. They can all afford to finance it and the only things that would prevent it happening would be a lack of imagination, courage and humility.

The irony is that a great deal of the aides are from the civil service and specifically the diplomatic world.

The problem as I see it is that in some peoples eyes the only solution is that they get their own way.

And didn't Harry say that he was offered FIVE options during Sandringham Summit? Not two or three, but five. For me, that's a lot options considering the short time to formulate it after his manifesto. Yet even with 5 options to choose, he's unable to compromise because none of it was not the way he wanted it. It's his-way or no-way.

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(ps. as said before, the comments from some in the media like Jeremy Clarkson are, i'm sorry, despicable and if nothing else, not helping the situation at all..)

Jeremy Clarkson is 10 times worse than Piers Morgan. I'm talking as someone who've watched 20 seasons of Top Gear. Let's just say that it's good that he's no longer in the show before all the woke political corectness cancel culture start, because if it was aired around now with all the woke political correctness, he wouldn't last that long. (Although I'd love to see him having verbal spat with Dr Shola. That'd be epic)

 

[Mbruno]

Honestly reflecting on it more I think the docuseries just reinforces a few things about them both:

-Harry is not very bright and doesn't see being lower in seniority in the RF (the "spare" as puts it) as something to play to his advantage but something to moan about. He could have made a new role for himself in a different way Charles and William can. I still believe the reason their proposed "new way" was denied was because it included them doing things like this to make money and take endorsements.

-Meghan is indeed "tungsten" (as Charles reportedly called her) because she doesn't bend, she was never going to adapt to the ways of the RF. Mocking curtseying to the Queen underlines that she wasn't going to assimilate herself into the Royal, nor indeed British, way of doing things.

-Harry relies on Meghan like a mother, the way he holds out his phone with that text from William on it says it all to me. I've seen plenty of children do that but rarely ever any adults who would explain what they are showing someone. The way she soothes him after underlines how much she is mothering him.

-Harry thinks he is the first to experience the issues of being "spare" but actually he has two uncles and an auntie who have experienced the same. Why Harry didn't look at Anne and Edward and see that was the way forward for him is odd to me. I think it suggests he sees himself different from the rest of the RF in some way, maybe he has been made to feel special as Diana's son for too long or treated as an equal to William for too long but to me, and I would assume anyone in the RF, it would be pretty clear Harry was going to take up a role more like this auntie and uncles rather than William.

-Harry and Meghan are too focussed on the "unfairness" or it all to see the advantages their positions would have given them.

-It underlines to me that Meghan spent far too little time getting use to the UK and the Royal Family before marriage and in the early days of her "royal life". I don't disagree with some of what is said about the RF and the way it works to an extent, my surprise is that Meghan didn't know that already either through observations or from her husband.

-Harry is too weak to stand up to Meghan when needed, so her view of the RF it what permeates through them both and one he now goes along with as it plays into his own anxieties and upset at the RF and the monarchy. He failed her IMO by not better preparing her for life in the RF but now blames other people. If her husband couldn't do it why should he expect others to.

-A lot of their issues come from being jealous of William and Catherine and that comes across quite strongly at times. They try to justify it with "evidence" and reasoning but really it is just because they are jealous to me. Why. I'm not sure. Again, I'd see it as actually much better to be in Harry's position than William or Catherine's.

-They are both "perfect" for each other and yet also bad for each other IMO. They bring out the worst in each other.

- I don't see a way forward for them in the RF, William is too stubborn and too proud and protective of his wife to let them back in as before after the hurtful things that have been said. If it is true that Harry and Meghan now believe the RF should sit down with them and apologise then I think they are on a different track completely to the RF.

Just a few quick comments, not necessarily related to your points:

1) Objectively speaking, Harry and Meghan are making loads of cash in America (hundreds of millions of dollars between the Netflix, Spotify, and book deals). And that source won't dry out in the near future. According to a post by another Forum member, the Harry & Meghan docuseries was the most watched program in Netflix's history. I don't know if that is true or even how that would be measured in a nonlinear streaming platform, but it is common sense now that Netflix must be very pleased with the return they are getting from their deal with the Sussexes.

2) No amount of "preparation" or "getting used to life in the UK" would in my honest opinion have made Meghan stay. I have a firm impression, after watching the docuseries and learning more about Meghan's childhood from it, that the life she is living now in Montecito and her work as a "rich and famous" producer/ activist / philanthropist is her dream life in the sense of being what she always wanted for herself. I will very bold here, but I don't think she would trade it for Windsor Castle if that were offered to her (maybe she would take being Queen instead, but nothing short of that). And again, I will be a bit cynical here, but all the often changing and sometimes contradictory explanations for her quitting the RF (starting from structural racism and then morphing in the docuseries into institututional gaslighting and "William's bullying") are just excuses to justify something that would always be inevitable. Meghan, uncharacteriscally for a foreign royal bride as I commented before, always self-identifying as American throughout her short royal life and constantly remniscing of all attempts to embrace Britishness (learning the national anthem, curtsying, preparing for the citizenship test, etc.) as painful experiences should have come as a clue to all external observers.

3) I will leave this last one to the judgment of a professional expert, but Harry constantly projecting his mother's life onto Meghan and, in a way, reliving through Meghan how he as a child imagined his mother's life is not healthy. It is genuine, however, in the sense that I think Harry truly believes what he is saying to the point that he would be willing to break up with family members to whom he has always been very close, or even quit the country in which he grew up and where his social life was because of that. It is debatable to what extent Meghan realizes that and uses it to her advantage by manipulating Harry or not. I won't go that far to avoid going into the obvious "Meghan is an evil genius" trap.

 

[tommy100]

The biggest problem that would stop them sitting down and talking is that both sides seem to think they've done nothing wrong and nothing to apologise for. If anything I would say the RF has been more compromising so far e.g. "recollections may vary" vs "my father lied". At the moment I also suspect that the RF feel anything they say will simply be used against them in future interviews, tv series etc. If your brother is happy to show off that you've text him to prove a point and create drama why would you feel confident going into a conversation with him that requires full and frank disclosure.
To be frank, at present the RF is doing better in any "PR way" than Harry and Meghan. The only place they could be seen to be loosing seems to be in America and as important as America may be it isn't the biggest deal to the British RF as the UK and the Commonwealth.
In other words, the RF have nothing to gain from any "sitting down and giving an apology" while Harry & Meghan have much to gain.

 

[SLV]

I agree that it might actually be in everyone's' best interests if they sat down with a mediator who knows the BRF inside out. For their mental health if nothing else because this *isn't* healthy or happy However:

Problem is, any mediator that is put forward by either side will be seen as prejudiced against the other side. There is no way a perfectly neutral mediator can be found. Even he/she is neutral, it will never be believed as such by one of the sides.

 

[Curryong]

It is obvious that Meghan was miserable and uncomfortable throughout her life as a royal in the UK. She wasn’t coping. I do think her misery was genuine, and driven to a large degree by incessant media criticism day after day, week after week, month after month. We don’t know what sort of support if any she received from other royals with regard to this continual hate-filled barrage.

It’s obvious to me that any husband worth his salt having told his relatives what was happening with his wife and getting no response, would support her to the utmost of his ability. And that’s what Harry did.

He took his wife away from the source of her misery, even when it meant that he broke with his family and left his royal role and his country. He knew very well what it meant but he did it anyway.

 

[Lee-Z]

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It’s obvious to me that any husband worth his salt having told his relatives what was happening with his wife and getting no response, would support her to the utmost of his ability. And that’s what Harry did.

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yes, but, and for me it's still a big 'but', we only have their side of the story; i can believe that Harry felt he wasn't getting the response he wanted, and his thinking seems to be very much "if it didn't happen exactly how i wanted, it didn't happen".
I'm yet to hear that actually no response was given confirmed from the other side of the argument..

Problem is, any mediator that is put forward by either side will be seen as prejudiced against the other side. There is no way a perfectly neutral mediator can be found. Even he/she is neutral, it will never be believed as such by one of the sides.

How about someone in the family, maybe Peter Phillips or P.Eugenie? (Not sure if they would want to, but purely hypothetical..)

 

[Hallo girl]

It is obvious that Meghan was miserable and uncomfortable throughout her life as a royal in the UK. I do think her misery was genuine and driven to a large degree by incessant media criticism day after day, week after week, month after month. We don’t know what support she received from other royals with regard to this hate-filled barrage.

It’s obvious to me that any husband worth his salt having told his relatives what was happening with his wife and getting no response, would support her to the utmost of his ability. And that’s what Harry did.

He took his wife away from the source of her misery, even when it meant that he broke with his family and left his royal role and his country. He knew very well what it meant but he did it anyway.

I would agree with you that Meghan never looked comfortable when she was with other members of the family, e.g first Xmas when they were engaged.
On the Balcony is another, as if not sure of her place. Not used to a pecking order. Her background was that you got yourself noticed to get on to the next step and I do not intend that to sound narky.
When it was just herself or with Harry she was different, because she became the star of the show.

She was welcomed into the family, or she would not have been at Sandringham before they were married. The media even made that a dig at Kate because she was never publicly invited until married.

The irony is that it doesn't seem to be bothering her to throw misery on to the King or the family with the half stories and hints she is now throwing out to the media via her programme / book or through her favoured journalist. You know the one I mean, the one she forgot about when she denied any connection with Finding Freedom, yes that one.

 

[Mbruno]

It is obvious that Meghan was miserable and uncomfortable throughout her life as a royal in the UK. She wasn’t coping. I do think her misery was genuine, and driven to a large degree by incessant media criticism day after day, week after week, month after month. We don’t know what sort of support if any she received from other royals with regard to this continual hate-filled barrage.

It’s obvious to me that any husband worth his salt having told his relatives what was happening with his wife and getting no response, would support her to the utmost of his ability. And that’s what Harry did.

He took his wife away from the source of her misery, even when it meant that he broke with his family and left his royal role and his country. He knew very well what it meant but he did it anyway.

I agree she was miserable and uncomfortable in the UK. The source of her misery is, on the other hand, debatable. We know Meghan's public version, which is more less what you wrote down, but, to my surprise, has changed somewhat throughout the docuseries, as the focus shifted, as I said, from systemic racism and media hate to the courtiers and, especially, "William's bullying". In my opinion, Meghan's personal aspirations/goals and the reality of life as the wife of a junior royal in the UK were simply incompatible and, consequently, it would never have worked out for her. Besides, Meghan clearly wanted to live and work in North America.

One thing that is becoming consensual is, however, as another Forum member astutely said, that, in his mind, Harry is "saving Meghan" in a way he could not save his mother and that explains the lengths to which he is willing to go to do that. I believe that is stronger than his resentment or jealousy of William, although the latter is also becoming public now, and I think Spare will shed more light into it.

 

[Curryong]

When it appeared damaging to the Palace and other members of the RF a spokesman would come out and deny certain things, but otherwise no. [.....]

 

[Lilyflo]

Problem is, any mediator that is put forward by either side will be seen as prejudiced against the other side. There is no way a perfectly neutral mediator can be found. Even he/she is neutral, it will never be believed as such by one of the sides.

It has to be a team of negotiators outside of the BRF and its households. One person couldn't do it because this kind of complex situation requires several heads/personalities and part of the process is agreeing who the negotiators would be. Of course it wouldn't be easy to do that but Harry is Charles' son and William's brother. I'm sure Charles finds it all extremely painful. This situation will become progressively worse until the main players find the courage and emotional maturity to commit to a resolution.

 

[Hallo girl]

When it appeared damaging to the Palace and other members of the RF a spokesman would come out and deny certain things, but otherwise no. [.....]

The palace very rarely put out statements denying media stuff simply because and I have said this repeatedly when you deny some things and not others the press picks up on what is true, unless she wanted the palace to lie for her.

I think there were a couple of things that they denied on behalf of Catherine, I believe it concerned companies using her name to promote their products when she had nothing to do with them.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Honestly reflecting on it more I think the docuseries just reinforces a few things about them both:

-Harry is not very bright and doesn't see being lower in seniority in the RF (the "spare" as puts it) as something to play to his advantage but something to moan about. He could have made a new role for himself in a different way Charles and William can. I still believe the reason their proposed "new way" was denied was because it included them doing things like this to make money and take endorsements.

-Meghan is indeed "tungsten" (as Charles reportedly called her) because she doesn't bend, she was never going to adapt to the ways of the RF. Mocking curtseying to the Queen underlines that she wasn't going to assimilate herself into the Royal, nor indeed British, way of doing things.

-Harry relies on Meghan like a mother, the way he holds out his phone with that text from William on it says it all to me. I've seen plenty of children do that but rarely ever any adults who would explain what they are showing someone. The way she soothes him after underlines how much she is mothering him.

-Harry thinks he is the first to experience the issues of being "spare" but actually he has two uncles and an auntie who have experienced the same. Why Harry didn't look at Anne and Edward and see that was the way forward for him is odd to me. I think it suggests he sees himself different from the rest of the RF in some way, maybe he has been made to feel special as Diana's son for too long or treated as an equal to William for too long but to me, and I would assume anyone in the RF, it would be pretty clear Harry was going to take up a role more like this auntie and uncles rather than William.

-Harry and Meghan are too focussed on the "unfairness" or it all to see the advantages their positions would have given them.

-It underlines to me that Meghan spent far too little time getting use to the UK and the Royal Family before marriage and in the early days of her "royal life". I don't disagree with some of what is said about the RF and the way it works to an extent, my surprise is that Meghan didn't know that already either through observations or from her husband.

-Harry is too weak to stand up to Meghan when needed, so her view of the RF it what permeates through them both and one he now goes along with as it plays into his own anxieties and upset at the RF and the monarchy. He failed her IMO by not better preparing her for life in the RF but now blames other people. If her husband couldn't do it why should he expect others to.

-A lot of their issues come from being jealous of William and Catherine and that comes across quite strongly at times. They try to justify it with "evidence" and reasoning but really it is just because they are jealous to me. Why. I'm not sure. Again, I'd see it as actually much better to be in Harry's position than William or Catherine's.

-They are both "perfect" for each other and yet also bad for each other IMO. They bring out the worst in each other.

- I don't see a way forward for them in the RF, William is too stubborn and too proud and protective of his wife to let them back in as before after the hurtful things that have been said. If it is true that Harry and Meghan now believe the RF should sit down with them and apologise then I think they are on a different track completely to the RF.

I really don’t get your last point, I don’t see any way for the Sussexes regardless of William. Why shouldn’t William feel protective of his wife especially after what was said in the Oprah interview and the Netflix docuseries? “Too stubborn and proud”? Harry is lucky this isn’t the Middle Ages or 19th century because for this behavior he’d probably be sent to the tower or exiled for life. Harry has constantly made childish digs and insinuations and innuendos about the family namely his brother and father from his Netflix couch and is being paid for this drivel! He’s turned the BRF into higher end version of the Jeremy Kyle show, that’s just appalling!

 

[SirGyamfi1]

The palace very rarely put out statements denying media stuff simply because and I have said this repeatedly when you deny some things and not others the press picks up on what is true, unless she wanted the palace to lie for her.

I think there were a couple of things that they denied on behalf of Catherine, I believe it concerned companies using her name to promote their products when she had nothing to do with them.

This is what I wanted to say about Kate’s situation, people just assume the palace were denying stories about Kate to leave the Sussexes to hang out to dry, when there were issues of Kate being linked to a business that was exploiting her image to make money which was false. No one exploited Meghan’s image to make money for business so the situation isn’t comparable at all.

 

[yukari]

The palace very rarely put out statements denying media stuff simply because and I have said this repeatedly when you deny some things and not others the press picks up on what is true, unless she wanted the palace to lie for her.

I think there were a couple of things that they denied on behalf of Catherine, I believe it concerned companies using her name to promote their products when she had nothing to do with them.

Even Hollywood A-listers don't respond to every negative stories about them, they learn to ignore. Or maybe Harry thought his grandmother or father could stop every negative story à la Xi Jinping or Kim Jong Un, or maybe Britain could adopt Thai's les majeste?

 

[Granada]

Do People REALLY think that Charles and William are going to AGAIN sit down with Harry-(Meghan presumably) and a Mediator ? After this brutal battle being waged against The Family's very own reputation and The very Institution of Monarchy ?
And this is before we know what poison Harry put in his book.

Why would they consider this ? Would good could possibly come from it, except more fodder for a ANOTHER Sussex tell-all in a year OR five when yet another perceived slight or grievance is weaponized against the Famlly.


The Sussex's are never going to be happy now. They wanted AND needed the "half in-half out" model to monetize their Royal Status. Keep them in the public eyes as part time glamorous figures while making side deals for cash. Royal Cachet and cash !

That couldn't work then or now.
What could this supposed Mediator do ? The Royal Family can't bend to the The Sussex's. They have NOW been labeled as bullies, liars, cold-unfeeling, racist enablers and out of touch in modern times. An Institution that is steeped in archaic heirachy, much to Harry and Meghan's displeasure.

Then there are the "friends" of Harry and Meghan always putting their two cents in and adding fuel to the fire.
Like new "bestie" Tyler Perry who said in it ......" I thought there is so much more that Meghan could have said, but she DIDN'T because she is such a classy and elegant lady".

NICE, threats by Meghan and damning gems dangling in Interviews by their Friends. What exactly do these two share with all their new found friends ? Don't forget, Meghan talked about in another interview, perhaps 'The Cut' one, that She could talk if she choose, as she never signed a NDA.

They can't and won't accept that in its inherent heirachy, that they keep moaning about, They cannot be 'The Stars'. They believe they should be, AS
it is now, the current model sidelines The Sussex's "awesomeness" and obvious better abilities and talent for the "Job" as Harry preposterously just told us in the docu-series.
No mediator or negotiator can ever fix or reconcile that. Their arrogance and unbridled delusions of grandeur.

 

[valeas]

A perfect example of Harry taking things for granted instead of knowing/asking questions/learning about how things work.

But Harry said he knows the games better than Charles, because himself he has been inside for 30 y! Charles was how old?
LOl always astonishing how Harry talks seriously and makes a fool of himself again.

 

[Fem]

According to a post by another Forum member, the Harry & Meghan docuseries was the most watched program in Netflix's history. I don't know if that is true or even how that would be measured in a nonlinear streaming platform, but it is common sense now that Netflix must be very pleased with the return they are getting from their deal with the Sussexes.

By no means it's doing badly, but no, it's not even close to the most watched Netflix production.

Right now at the top are Squid Game, Stranger Things and Wednesday with over 1 billion hours watched (each), while Harry & Meghan have over 81 millions hours watched. It's quite a lot of distance to cover to over one billion.

When it appeared damaging to the Palace and other members of the RF a spokesman would come out and deny certain things, but otherwise no. [.....]

And what else, in your opinion, they should do. We saw it times and times again that not every story gets denied, even if damaging, because sometimes leaving things without a comment simply shows dignity.

 

[Hallo girl]

When it appeared damaging to the Palace and other members of the RF a spokesman would come out and deny certain things, but otherwise no. [.....]

Do you have any examples of this.

 

[Frelinghighness]

Some excellent posts regarding the appalling behavior of these two. And with all the suffering in the world, and Christmas….
She believed her own good press, so when it inevitably went bad, this war.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I am so often reminded of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Megan even made a smile at the last commonwealth service that made me gasp, it reminded me so much of Wallis.

 

[yukari]

Instead of the palace, there's a response from Toronto Police:

Toronto's top cop dismisses Meghan's smear as royally exaggerated

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“I was deputy chief at the time, in charge of the Special Enforcement Command that oversaw that situation, and can tell you the officers did an excellent job,” Ramer told the Toronto Sun on his final weekend as the city’s top cop before retiring after an illustrious 42-year career on Monday.

However, in the Netflix special documentary series Harry & Meghan watched the whole world over, Markle alleges Toronto Police neglected her complaints*about feeling she was being stalked by paparazzi at her home at 10 Yarmouth Rd. — near Christie and Dupont Sts. — in 2016 after news broke she was dating Prince Harry.

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The Chief said he personally knows numerous detectives and officers who took the actor’s complaints seriously and addressed her concerns.

“Our officers were extremely professional,” he said. “I oversaw the area that protected VIPS and I fully support the work they did there.”

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What she doesn’t mention is Toronto Police did respond to the street, routinely monitored it, deployed undercover vehicles and teams, and spoke to the paparazzi. There are even pictures taken by retired Toronto Sun photographer Mike Peake of police being on her street.

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[Granada]

It really is amazing that Harry and Meghan thought they could keep their Security Team after moving out of The UK and leaving as working members of The Royal Family.
Such little foresight and giant ego. They were such important VIP global figures they deserved it.
That being pulled, obviously galled them and still does.
Not just the millions it is costing them a year, but the hit to their prestige that they never saw coming. A demotion in importance. Why they didn't, I'm not sure.

Speaking of Sussex's money, I don't believe that they are worth a hundred million dollars either. No where near that. And I think that plays into their actions.
They are worried about long term viability, as they should be now, after the release of the Netflix Series.

It wasn't anything that was ground breaking or game changing. Just more details and updates about the mean- rotten Royal Family and UK that Oprah got FOR FREE. We have been hearing about for years now........
The Spotify Podcasts ? Same, nothing interesting or edifying in them either. Except when Meghan got dragged for her comments about Deal or No Deal Game Show objectifying women, and the ridiculous comments about the smoke -fire situation in South Africa with Archie, that She blew up out of proportion.
I think the Netflix Series backfired on them. And I think the negative fallout will continue. It seems People here in the States view them as arrogant complaining quitters OR worse.....boring.

Why Meghan and Harry thought that after a mere two years in ( actually less) they could quit after the 'half in-half out' model was refused, and they could become Global Icons ala Diana, I will never understand.
They grossly underestimated People caring about them as a Couple.

Diana had a solid "Resume" filled with Charities, Causes and "Public Exposure". A charismatic, but vulnerable woman who at age 19 became a Public figure. We watched her become a Wife, Mother and beloved world wide figure. For nearly two decades People watched her grow into a woman of substance as well as yes, a Celebrity of sorts. Who didn't look forward to seeing her at a Royal function or Sandringham Christmas Walk with her Sons ?

People were invested in her, so to speak, do to her personality, causes like Aids awareness and likeability. Her championing of Aids victims was simply groundbreaking then. Then her sudden death, as She embarked on in a new single life, simply unimaginable.

Sorry to upset the Meghan fans, but I see very few ' invested ' in Meghan as a new Diana. Only Harry.

They left too early in the game. And now they are trying to find a new playbook.