Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

[PhillyMonarchist]

It’s also her role not just Haakon and that’s a choice she made. There is no us vs the world here or at least it shouldn’t be. She’s endangering Ingrid’s position and she’s her responsibility as well. If Mette-Marit can’t do anything about this, I’m not sure what Haakon can as it relates to Marius that is.

kick him to curb

 

[Chimene]

Loving him means she has the hard task of doing whatever is necessary for him to get well and be a productive member of society. I don’t envy her situation, and I can sympathize that he or both have experienced trauma, but we all have to various degrees. I also understand that we don’t all have the same coping mechanisms or resilience, but you are never allowed to hurt people no matter what your justification is or might be. Once is a mistake. Twice you need to be watched. A third is showing a pattern that needs to be rectified, and if not, here we are.

 

[PhillyMonarchist]

Loving him means she has the hard task of doing whatever is necessary for him to get well and be a productive member of society. I don’t envy her situation, and I can sympathize that he or both have experienced trauma, but we all have to various degrees. I also understand that we don’t all have the same coping mechanisms or resilience, but you are never allowed to hurt people no matter what your justification is or might be. Once is a mistake. Twice you need to be watched. A third is showing a pattern that needs to be rectified, and if not, here we are.

I was referring to haakon doing that (..)

 

[kalnel]

Does the NRF employ any PR people at all? A true professional will throw up his hands in dispair and horror.

I'd guess the PR people recommended that they go shopping together. It suggests they have nothing to hide, life is normal, and they do "regular people" things. They're not ashamed or hiding in the dark with lawyers.

 

[Chimene]

I was referring to haakon doing that (..)

Oh, sorry I misinterpreted your comment. There seems to be a lot of paralysis and guilt going around in this family. I was very impressed with the way in which the King and Queen specifically embraced the little boy. I think everyone is allowing their own experiences to cloud their judgments, and that’s very human, but overstepping boundaries when you’re in a position of leadership is not something that should be done.

 

[Alisa]

I'm appalled that Mette-Marit and Marius staged this shopping excursion. Again Mette-Marit is defiantly showing that she will choose Marius all the time, every time. This is very telling and in the grand scheme of things not good at all!!

 

[fabaunty]

yes norway need a monarchy a republic would be terrible

i dont think u all realize that marius is likely abusing his mother too who via trauma wiill do what ever to calm him down


also i am sure the sliverware wasnt being carried out in the opened

The silver wear concerned was offered for sale publicly , the gas card was used publicly , the tour of the private house of the CP couple was broadcast publicly , footage of the dangerous driving of Marius , on the royal estate , in his own words almost wiping out a guard , is public. However whilst I do realise and accept that grown children can terrorise their parents into protecting them , in this case I believe that much of Marius behaviour comes from the fact that MM believes firmly that she ruined any chance of Marius having a "normal life " by her marriage to Haakon . For over two decades she has tried to make up for the "twisted dynamic" that resulted from the different status of her children . Drawing in not only her husband , but his parents and the press etc . The CP couple need some speedy damage control , and MM needs to accept her responsibility for her actions , as she did before her marriage , I include Haakon in this, as he has in my opinion been an equal partner .

 

[Alondra]

I think it's premature talking about the end of the Norwegian monarchy because of this scandal. Frankly, all European monarchies have had some pretty serious scandals in the last 20 years, and they've all survived.

Marius is being charged with some pretty serious issues, and, hopefully, Norway's justice system can deal with them without too much interfering from the Royal House and other institutions.

Lets give time to the Police, and the judiciary to deal with a pretty difficult subject, considering the institutional implications. Until the charges are brought to Court, and a sentence is passed, all our countries function on the premise of "being innocent until proven guilty".

Marius may very well be guilty of everything he's been charged with but, until the matter comes to Court, and he's sentenced, the Royal House may choose not to act against him.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

I'd guess the PR people recommended that they go shopping together. It suggests they have nothing to hide, life is normal, and they do "regular people" things. They're not ashamed or hiding in the dark with lawyers.

oh dear, the last I'd suggest is go shopping for furniture after Marius smashed up the furniture in his ex girlfriends flat.

 

[fortimo]

I'm appalled that Mette-Marit and Marius staged this shopping excursion. Again Mette-Marit is defiantly showing that she will choose Marius all the time, every time. This is very telling and in the grand scheme of things not good at all!!

She is his mother. This is the primary and most important role in her life, not the crown princessship with which she should serve millions of unknowns. And it is good so. (..) And I don't think, that Haakon had too much to say in the life of Marius. I am sure, that Mette-Marit didn't let it. MM has the stronger personality and I think in the case of Marius she didn't accept opinions and good advices, not even from the King.

 

[Muhler]

I think it's premature talking about the end of the Norwegian monarchy because of this scandal. Frankly, all European monarchies have had some pretty serious scandals in the last 20 years, and they've all survived.

Marius is being charged with some pretty serious issues, and, hopefully, Norway's justice system can deal with them without too much interfering from the Royal House and other institutions.

Lets give time to the Police, and the judiciary to deal with a pretty difficult subject, considering the institutional implications. Until the charges are brought to Court, and a sentence is passed, all our countries function on the premise of "being innocent until proven guilty".

Marius may very well be guilty of everything he's been charged with but, until the matter comes to Court, and he's sentenced, the Royal House may choose not to act against him.

The survival of a royal house is not so much about what crisis they are facing, unless it happens to be some kind of violent revolution aimed at killing them off, it's how that royal houses handles a major crisis that is the deciding factor.
If the royal house does it well, they can actually come out stronger, but if handled badly even a small thing can serious damage even an otherwise successful royal house.
In the case with the NRF they are facing a string of serious cases they need to deal with.
Marius, which is getting worse almost for each day! And Marius won't just go away. He can still cause problems 30-4o years from now.
And they have ML and her shaman, who if not dealt with either, will also cause problems for many years to come.
While at the same time the NRF will within a few years be reduced to two perhaps three (Magnus) public figures, so there is no other popular couple who can be the darlings of the NRF and take the spotlight for a number of years to come - I doubt Ingrid will get married and have children within the next five years.
And if one of these two or three remaining becomes seriously unpopular (Haakon) then the NRF has reached a critical point.
So Ingrid (and Magnus) better be perfect and so does her spouse.

But back to the initial argument, so far the NRF has handled this terribly. Especially on a personal level, because I think there can be little doubt by now that Mette Marit and also Haakon, have done what they could to shield Marius from consequences or at the very least have been exceptionally passive.
And their PR policy has been: say nothing and pretend everything is normal and then the whole thing may eventually blow over - it won't!
I think it's now time for King Harald to step forward and admit that the NRF has a major problem, that hasn't been dealt with in the best possible way and that they are now trying to figure out how to handle it. Because sometimes total honesty is the best way out. At least with King Harald, people may still listen and believe he is sincere.
I.e. doing a QEII after the death of Diana.
And as you know from other monarchies, sometimes drastic measured needed to be taken as a part of the damage control.

It's about time the NRF realize that as much as they'd like to, they are not a normal family and need to act as such.