Charles III: Coronation Information and Musings - Part 1

[Iluvbertie]

I have read somewhere that the coronation will be 'working royals' only so only William, Catherine, Edward, Sophie, Anne and Tim and maybe the late Queen's first cousins, other than Prince Michael of Kent (who was one of her pages at her coronation as well as at her wedding).

 

[Denville]

I have read somewhere that the coronation will be 'working royals' only so only William, Catherine, Edward, Sophie, Anne and Tim and maybe the late Queen's first cousins, other than Prince Michael of Kent (who was one of her pages at her coronation as well as at her wedding).

Do you mean that they will be the only ones at hte ceremony?

 

[Claire]

Do you mean that they will be the only ones at hte ceremony?

maybe they will be the only ones to swear oath?

I must think that anything is up in the air here - they are still discussing what will be seen as colonial and racist by extension. so honestly I have no idea what we will get.

 

[Biri]

And Wales children will not be present?

 

[muriel]

And Wales children will not be present?

I am sure the Wales children will be present. The details of the Coronation have not been made public at this stage, so the only bits out there are speculation.

 

[Denville]

maybe they will be the only ones to swear oath?

I must think that anything is up in the air here - they are still discussing what will be seen as colonial and racist by extension. so honestly I have no idea what we will get.

not sure what you mean, but even if H of Lords and peers wont all be swearing they are still part of the political set up and I dont htink that they can be excluded.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Plans for the Coronation of King Charles III were being made decades ago. In the beginning was it decided then to shorten the time of the ceremony?

 

[kimebear]

I have read somewhere that the coronation will be 'working royals' only so only William, Catherine, Edward, Sophie, Anne and Tim and maybe the late Queen's first cousins, other than Prince Michael of Kent (who was one of her pages at her coronation as well as at her wedding).

I'd be interested to see where you read this.

 

[Durham]

Working royals does make sense. It's a state event after all & not a family occasion. More room then for ordinary citizens like nurses & charity workers to attend. That would be a popular decision. Maybe the rest of the family could watch it in the Buckingham Palace cinema room & have a celebration when HM returns to the palace.

 

[Toledo]

This is a major event in the history of a nation whose culture and language contributed or influenced so many others in the planet. Every close member of the family related to King Charles III should attend even if the relatives are sectioned into working royals and private members of the Windsor extended family.

Harry can't miss this moment to show his support for his father and let bygones be bygones.

And I'll be now controversial about it, so sorry in advance but it's just my opinion: In this H&M household the pattern to disregard the grandparents from the kids' life is now like renting space in Harry's head, too.

Charles grandchildren, all of them, should be there for the pre or post event photos that will be part of history. What better birthday gift for Harry's kids to be with their grandfather on this moment, considering when they become adults Charles might be in his late 80s or just not be around at all.

 

[Toledo]

Before I leave and log in much later tonight, just had to say I wish King Charles III gives Queen Camilla a specially made jewelry moment for the coronation.

Something that stays in the official Crown Jewels for Catherine to wear in the distant future to celebrate the first coronation of both the new century and the new millennium. Maybe a tiara in a space age motif. Maybe something to commemorate when his ancestor, William the Conqueror, was crowned in 1066.

 

[Durham]

The King & his advisors will have to make whatever decision he thinks is for the best. He & his advisors know the state of public opinion in the UK. Either way unfortunately there will be criticism & a ridiculous amount of media interest. Don't underestimate the potential for unpleasantness.

It is therefore a question of considering what will be the least damaging choice for the popularity of this monarch & the institution.

Family feeling just doesn’t come into it. Much much more than any jubilee this is a national event & it will cost a lot public money.

 

[Denville]

Before I leave and log in much later tonight, just had to say I wish King Charles III gives Queen Camilla a specially made jewelry moment for the coronation.

Something that stays in the official Crown Jewels for Catherine to wear in the distant future to celebrate the first coronation of both the new century and the new millennium. Maybe a tiara in a space age motif. Maybe something to commemorate when his ancestor, William the Conqueror, was crowned in 1066.

why? The big problem with the coronation is that it will cost quite a bit of money and the public are not going to want to pay more than htey have ot. Camilla wearing some newly commissioned expensive jewellery is not likely6 to go down well.

 

[muriel]

Camilla wearing some newly commissioned expensive jewellery is not likely6 to go down well.

I do not expect to see Camilla in any substantial new jewellery for the Coronation. I suspect she will dig deep into the vault and will use pieces traditionally used, i.e. the Coronation necklace and earrings, with the QEQM crown, possibly with the Kohinoor replaced.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Is it true that the British public do not pay for the Coronation because it is a state occasion?

 

[Denville]

Since it is a state occasion, the taxpayer does pay for it.

 

[Hallo girl]

Since it is a state occasion, the taxpayer does pay for it.

The government will pay the bill, in most of these cases it is the security that ramps up the costs.

Where does the government make their money, by borrowing and the tax payer.

I suppose it depends on how you view it, no we will not be asked to personally contribute to a fund to pay for it, but anybody who pays income tax will be in a round about way be paying for it.

We will be told that the government has a contingency fund for these types of occasions, for example the Late Queens funeral, and anyway it only works out at x amount of pounds per head.

I dont mind, I am too young to recall the last one and probably too old to see another, so I do not mind my tax contributing towards this one.

I do not think it will be anything like the scale of the last one, but still a great occasion and worth doing properly.

Apologies Denville I intended this to respond to
CyrilVladisla, I was too slow in typing.

 

[Denville]

Thanks. Personally I hope that they will keep costs down as much as possible.. but who else but the publiic WILL pay for it? THe RF dont pay for coronations, or state funerals.. its the Govt, ie the tax payer.

 

[Denville]

I do not expect to see Camilla in any substantial new jewellery for the Coronation. I suspect she will dig deep into the vault and will use pieces traditionally used, i.e. the Coronation necklace and earrings, with the QEQM crown, possibly with the Kohinoor replaced.

of course. For goodness sake the RF are not short of jewellery, I cant imagine why anyone would expect Charles or the tax payer to stump up for some new peice.

 

[cdm]

It doesn’t need to be a grand piece of jewelry.
Camilla has a charm bracelet. With Diana Charles gave her a new charm every year.
He might give Camilla a charm to mark this big occasion in their lives.

 

[Denville]

that was not what the poster suggested, it was something big and new, and IMO it would be a very bad move, PR wise. As for a charm bracelet, honestly would anyone know if he gave her a charm? what would be the point? it woudl be a private gesture. OTOH it would be inexpensive, but Cam is hardly going to wear a charm bracelt on Coronation day

 

[Hallo girl]

Do you think there are piles of photograph albums of all the various pieces, with the history of each piece and who wore it last.
I have visions of the royal ladies all sitting round looking at albums with a cheeky gin and tonic in their hand deciding who wears what.

 

[Denville]

I woudl guess that there is some kind of list or catalogue, but I think the queen and her dresser made decisions on who got what for what event.

 

[Stefan]

I could imange that the Jewels are all catalogized by PC and then it is easy to add a date when they have been worn.

 

[muriel]

Do you think there are piles of photograph albums of all the various pieces, with the history of each piece and who wore it last.
I have visions of the royal ladies all sitting round looking at albums with a cheeky gin and tonic in their hand deciding who wears what.

I have no doubt the decisions will be made by Camilla now. I suspect she and Charles will first establish what Camilla is going to wear, and then Camilla and Catherine will work out what Catherine might wear.

I suspect after that, it will be Camilla having a chat with Anne and Sophie to see if there was anything from the vault that might be lent to them for the Coronation and related events.

 

[muriel]

We are to have an extra bank holiday for the Coronation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63528830

 

[tommy100]

Have to say I'm surprised they haven't just moved the earlier bank holiday to after the coronation - not that I'm complaining.

It means in May there will be a Bank Holiday on Mon 1st May, Mon 8th May, Mon 29th May

 

[travelguy]

3 Bank holidays in May and 3 long weekends, That sounds prefect to me.

My birthday today and 6 more months to the coronation!!!

 

[Toledo]

Question to the UK friends, do you call, in conversation, a Bank Holiday any holiday? Here in the USA we use in conversation the name of the reason for the holiday (Martin Luther King Jr day, Presidents' Day, etc.)

 

[Denville]

not so much. maybe New years day, or Easter Monday