The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 7: Oct. 2022 - Apr. 2023

[Toledo]

Re 'heroic stand' against royal 'racism'

OMG! They will be receiving an award for a line of questions from the Queen of USA Tabloid TV, Oprah, who is no better than Rupert Murdoch's tabloid empire. Oprah led them, like a lawyer cornering a witness, to give her material for a bombshell she needed for the show.

How did Oprah got involved with them? She was part of a celebrity wedding guest wish list to make good TV in the USA. They didn't even know the bride, per wedding guest George Clooney. That led to reciprocate with an exclusive Oprah used to put emphasis the race issue, which here in the USA is always a hot topic. And I agree with the above comments, it produced defamation against an entire family that, from day one, welcomed Meghan into their group and assigned her same duties as other working royals.

I followed their story from the start and the racism in the press had the Murdoch machinery behind it, fueling at most in his media empire, from the UK to USA and Australia. I hope they say that out loud in the open during award ceremony instead of using King Charles III as the target practice for their 'heroic stand' against royal 'racism'

This is going to escalate after the TV show and the book come out in December and January respectively. And it bears repeating that the Kennedy Foundation Board, thirsty for free publicity, is placing them at the same level as major political and philanthropy figures for their 'heroic stand' against royal 'racism' done on a TV interview show with Oprah leading the witness for a nice TV quote or two.

Robert Kennedy Jr., a prominent member of the Kennedy family, also stated his opposition to them on this award. He included in his remarks past few days their other claims on their non-profit tax heaven charities that are still, to this day, not documented since they were established.

This is bad and defamatory toward King Charles III, at least according to Google:
“A claim of defamation requires the following five elements:
(1) publication;
(2) falsity.
(3) the person must act with knowledge or reckless disregard as to the falsity on a matter concerning a public official, or at least negligently on a matter concerning a private person.
(4) actual damages; and
(5) statement must be defamatory. "

I'm out of here till the next article.

 

[HRHHermione]

This really seems like an escalation if Meghan and Harry had any say into how this award is being publicized, though it’s not clear if they did. I imagine we will know their thoughts on the reason they received their award during their acceptance speech if they give one, which I think is highly likely.

The next two months are going to have a lot of news for these two. The Netflix show should be out in December, the book in January, and then some appearances of this type.

I just hope for what I always hope: that Harry doesn’t let it get so bad that his path back to his family is closed forever.

 

[FigTree]

This really seems like an escalation if Meghan and Harry had any say into how this award is being publicized, though it’s not clear if they did. I imagine we will know their thoughts on the reason they received their award during their acceptance speech if they give one, which I think is highly likely.

The next two months are going to have a lot of news for these two. The Netflix show should be out in December, the book in January, and then some appearances of this type.

I just hope for what I always hope: that Harry doesn’t let it get so bad that his path back to his family is closed forever.

His father will never turn his back on him. His brother might but he had nephews and a niece that I’ll have none of this baggage and May in time from a connection with him.

I think in reality, for the foreseeable future, his relations with his family are over.

 

[Durham]

Who is she anyway? I know she’s a Kennedy but it’s a very big family. Is she someone people take note of? Would anyone take these sorts of comments seriously?

And a professor called David Nasaw is quoted as saying he finds the awarding of a prize to H&M as “somewhere between sublimely ridiculous and blatantly ludicrous”. Seems like a pretty astute & fair judgement to me.

 

[FigTree]

Who is she anyway? I know she’s a Kennedy but it’s a very big family. Is she someone people take note of? Would anyone take these sorts of comments seriously?

And a professor called David Nasaw is quoted as saying he finds the awarding of a prize to H&M as “somewhere between sublimely ridiculous and blatantly ludicrous”. Seems like a pretty astute & fair judgement to me.

She is one of RFK's lot. Her own brother cast doubt over the awarding this past week.

It's kind of embarassing for M and H.

 

[Durham]

She is one of RFK's lot. Her own brother cast doubt over the awarding this past week.

It's kind of embarassing for M and H.

She certainly uses very intemperate language that doe not reflect well on the credibility of this award. And yes it does make it somewhat awkward for H&M.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

I really don’t understand the point of the award just like them receiving the NAACP award. But the whole thing is just funny to me because I feel like they paid for these awards as a clap on the back for themselves and this one in particular is a direct jab at the BRF.

 

[Alison H]

I think some of the Kennedys have always had it in for the Royal Family because they don't get that this is the 2020s, not the 1920s, and the UK and the Republic of Ireland are now close allies. But this is defamatory, and to put them in the same category as Zelensky's award for his heroic stance against the Russian invasion is just bizarre.

 

[duchessrachel]

This is ridiculous and infuriating. What authority does Archewell have to dictate how people should adress Harry? And is Archewell now managing Invictus? Because they were in Germany for the countdown to Invictus.

I totally agree. What galls me is that they want freedom from the Royal Family but they still want the royal trappings.

 

[duchessrachel]

That's indeed defamatory as by awarding them for challenging 'systemic royal racism', they publicly state that what happened was due to Meghan being biracial instead of because of a culture clash due to Meghan not fully understanding the royal world as an American (which is how for example very recently the Norwegian royal family is explaining the differences in point of view between them and ML's fiancé) and her different goals in life that ended up not being compatible with the central concept of 'duty' that is ingrained in royal life.

I would hope someone would stand up and defend the BRF - as this accusation should not go unchallenged.

I was appalled when I read that article. Meghan was welcomed wholeheartedly into the Royal Family. I don't understand what she and Harry are trying to accomplish. It seems to me they are trying to destroy the Royal Family (they won't be successful) and at the same time hang on the trappings like wanting titles for their children. I have heard the Royal Family are concerned about Harry's book, but honestly, I think Harry ought to be more concerned. I think it will do more harm to him in the long run. They have been shown to be untruthful (Oprah interview) so why would most anyone believe what he says in his book.

 

[Mbruno]

Who is she anyway? I know she’s a Kennedy but it’s a very big family. Is she someone people take note of? Would anyone take these sorts of comments seriously?

She is one of Robert F. Kennedy's daughters and a lawyer and human rights activist. And she is also the former wife of the (disgraced) Governor of the State of New York, Andrew Cuomo.

Yes, I think many people in the US take her comments seriously, which doesn't mean that she is right.

 

[Durham]

She is one of Robert F. Kennedy's daughters and a lawyer and human rights activist. And she is also the former wife of the (disgraced) Governor of the State of New York, Andrew Cuomo.

Yes, I think many people in the US take her comments seriously, which doesn't mean that she is right.

Thank you Mbruno.

It is shocking to think that an influential public figure in the US would chose to be so damning about the monarchy of an ally. And lawyers need to be certain about their evidence before making accusations. Words are cheap. Hopefully someone of a similar standing in the US will challenge her allegations.

There is memorial to her uncle JFK not far from Windsor, at the same spot King John was forced to sign the Magna Carta. RFK went to the unveiling & the late queen made a moving speech. Better times & better people.

 

[Durham]

US posters might be interested to follow this link:

https://www.kennedytrust.org.uk/display.aspx?id=1870&pid=0&tabId=230

After the unveiling the late queen held a reception for the Kennedy Family at Windsor Castle.

This is substance & history. And has meaning across the generations. Self congratulatory awards & barbed comments about the monarchy are barely trivia by comparison.

 

[caethi]

According to Wikipedia, Kerry Kennedy's sister Rory Kennedy runs a documentary production company with Liz Garbus. According to a November 17th article in Glamour, Liz Garbus is directing Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary.

 

[Durham]

According to Wikipedia, Kerry Kennedy's sister Rory Kennedy runs a documentary production company with Liz Garbus. According to a November 17th article in Glamour, Liz Garbus is directing Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary.

The plot thickens!

 

[Curryong]

Why does anything thicken? Liz Garbus was seen with Netflix crew in place in New York as long ago as last September (2021) when Harry and Meghan were filming there.

 

[TLLK]

According to Wikipedia, Kerry Kennedy's sister Rory Kennedy runs a documentary production company with Liz Garbus. According to a November 17th article in Glamour, Liz Garbus is directing Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary.

Quite likely Ms Garbus wished to use footage from the awards ceremony in the Netflix documentary. It's possible that it will be edited in at the end. So it was probably decided long ago that the Sussexes would be recipients of the award.

 

[Sionevar]

Quite likely Ms Garbus wished to use footage from the awards ceremony in the Netflix documentary. It's possible that it will be edited in at the end. So it was probably decided long ago that the Sussexes would be recipients of the award.

The award was actually settled back in March, but only announced recently, so this has been on the go for a while, yes.

And I just read that this series has apparently cost almost $90m to produce, which is just mind-boggling to me...

 

[FigTree]

The award was actually settled back in March, but only announced recently, so this has been on the go for a while, yes.

And I just read that this series has apparently cost almost $90m to produce, which is just mind-boggling to me...

I wonder if it will make the money back. Given the initial rush to hear Ms podcast and the falling away after it wasn’t very good. Similarly the mental health programme had no lasting impact in the same way as one’s the BBC have done over the last few years. I will never forget Freddie Flintoffs one about bulimia.

 

[Curryong]

It was the Sun newspaper in Britain who stated originally that the documentary cost 88 million to produce, and the other British tabloids took that figure in tow. In my opinion that was a figure plucked out of the air by the media. Unless a journalist had full access to the Netflix budget for the series then it’s just sheer speculation.

 

[FigTree]

To be fair he didn’t say it. It’s just the type of people they get wrapped up with. Also to be fair, what does he have? Goes to the auld church service with family occasionally. Looks like most won’t even speak to him. He lost everything and they didn’t even want to.

 

[Leopoldine]

Who is she anyway? I know she’s a Kennedy but it’s a very big family. Is she someone people take note of? Would anyone take these sorts of comments seriously?

And a professor called David Nasaw is quoted as saying he finds the awarding of a prize to H&M as “somewhere between sublimely ridiculous and blatantly ludicrous”. Seems like a pretty astute & fair judgement to me.

Kerry Kennedy is divorced from former NY State governor Andrew Cuomo. They have 3 grown daughters. She was a tabloid fixture years ago when she had an affair with a man named Bruce Colley and got found out.

Kerry gets paid $500,000.00 a year from the foundation that is honoring the Sussexes. It has been said that honoring the royal couple is more about selling tickets than judging their charitable endeavors. Sometimes, that's what it takes to raise money. As long as worthy people and causes benefit. This can't all be about stuffing Kerry Kennedy's pocketbook!

Her branch of the family, the offspring and descendants of the late Robert F. Kennedy are known for activism.

 

[TLLK]

The award was actually settled back in March, but only announced recently, so this has been on the go for a while, yes.

And I just read that this series has apparently cost almost $90m to produce, which is just mind-boggling to me...

Speaking of the series, I do recall reading there have been reports of some differences what is being shared in the series and that it doesn't align with what is reportedly being stated in Prince Harry's upcoming memoir. Also we know that the Sussexes have been distancing themselves from the production and reportedly they parted ways with the director over what is being called "creative differences." Based upon Ms. Kennedy's recent remarks about the BRF and alleged racism, I have to wonder if perhaps the docuseries has more of an emphasis on the alleged racism and that Kerry Kennedy wanted to show a correlation between the series which her sister's company produced and the Ripple of Hope Award.

 

[Erin9]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 7: October 2022-

Who is she anyway? I know she’s a Kennedy but it’s a very big family. Is she someone people take note of? Would anyone take these sorts of comments seriously?

And a professor called David Nasaw is quoted as saying he finds the awarding of a prize to H&M as “somewhere between sublimely ridiculous and blatantly ludicrous”. Seems like a pretty astute & fair judgement to me.

I don’t think most people take Kerry Kennedy seriously. (I know there’s some disagreement about her influence upthread- but I don’t think she’s notable.)

Most people don’t even know who she is. I know who she is because she’s the ex wife of a disgraced ex governor. I first read about her when Andrew was making the news for his COVID strategy- and in my research of him- her name popped up as his ex. They divorced before he became governor.

My knowing who Kerry is, is not because she’s a Kennedy or for anything she’s accomplished. It was being the governor’s ex.

She’s one of RFK’s many children. She’s also had a few scandals of her own- including possibly driving under the influence.

And her own brother has (rightly imo) been critical of the Sussexes getting this award.

Put it this way: She’s not Caroline Kennedy. It’s not even close. People know exactly who Caroline is. No one needs to google Caroline.

I’m pretty appalled by her comments though. And disgusted that the Sussexes are going to accept this award after what she’s said. I mean- really?! I’m sure that will help family relations.

 

[Marengo]

As forwarded by TLLK:

The latest Archetypes podcast has been released today.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...thor-Candace-Bushnell-Archetypes-podcast.html

 

[Marengo]

The final podcast of the season has been released. The Duchess has interviewed American tv hosts Andy Cohen, Trevor Noah and Judd Apatow.

Article from Yahoo here. and from the Birmingham Mail, here.

 

[HighGoalHighDreams]

Perhaps one of the most telling comments Meghan had ever made came in this episode, where she made a comment something to the effect of she had tried for years to get on Andy Cohen’s show but she never could. Because that was at the heart of much of the early criticism leveled at her— it seemed an awful lot like she was using her newfound fame as a convenient tool to land the magazine covers, interviews, red carpet appearances and invitations she had never been able to swing in her own.

I know it was meant as a funny aside, but this is a pretty grim underlining of the reality of her situation: she’s surrounded by people who wouldn’t give her the time of day based on who she was as Meghan. Why does she want them around her now?

 

[Hallo girl]

Am I correct in thinking that Trevor Noah was the guy who made a comment regarding the PM of the UK.

 

[Mbruno]

Am I correct in thinking that Trevor Noah was the guy who made a comment regarding the PM of the UK.

Yes, you are correct. He is originally from South Africa and became a talk show host on American cable TV.

 

[Sionevar]

Am I correct in thinking that Trevor Noah was the guy who made a comment regarding the PM of the UK.

He is the host of The Daily Show, and yes, he recently made some comments about Rishi Sunak and racism in the UK.

I used to watch his show, and he has never been a fan of the BRF - he has always been firmly in Harry and Meghan's 'camp'. I thought many of his criticisms were valid, but many of them were either exaggerated or uninformed e.g. the reason why Archie was not an HRH at birth. But that's been the case with many broadcasters, not just Noah.