gaggleofcrazypeople
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Well, it is hard to just dump a friend like that, but it seems needed at this point.
Reina said:I agree. But you know what else is sad is that ppl are ok with interracial marriages b/t asains (alexandra of denmark) and caucasians and even cubans (maria teresa of luxembourg) and caucasians, but if it ever came to a relationship b/t a black and a caucasian then whewww-there will be a big dillemma. This is insanely sad and hypocritical esp. the ones who say the USA is closeminded. Anyway this view should not be and I hope one of the heirs to the throne marries a nice, bllack lady that he is in love with and wants to share his life with. But just think of what she could go through. She could possibly be disdained by the public and other members of other royal families, but I pray that this is not the case.
Prince HArry should be careful of what he says cuz it could hurt alot of ppl.
I'm still scratching my head over that one. Who comes up with these 'themes?Elspeth said:Well, I don't even know what Nazi costumes have to do with a costume party whose theme was "colonial and native," but whatever.
james said:I have never thought that when Harry wore the Nazi uniform the issue was whether he was racist or not. I think the question is whether he fully grasps the responsibility of his position and I think that at this point in time the answer is no. At a recent Halloween party two of my friends came dressed as Nazis and no one batted an eyelid, the reason being that all of the partgoers knew them and knew that, of course, they didn't agree with genoicide etc it was merley a party and they wore the costumes in a mocking fashion as I am sure Harry did.
Elspeth said:Well, I don't even know what Nazi costumes have to do with a costume party whose theme was "colonial and native," but whatever.
kpusa1981 said:Why is this active again? Harry is doing fine at Sandhurst. He has said sorry again in his 21st birthday interview.
Marengo said:How can one wear a Nazi costume in a mocking way and what is there to mock about with 20 million deaths?
I think it is a cultural thing, countries who suffered under Nazi occupation are more sensitive to it then for example, british, who did not witness the atrocities of this regime first hand, and maybe it is also a question of a good education/upbringing, taste and intelligence (we can not accuse harry of having even one of the four).
Has the guy visited Auschwitz by now btw? I thought that was what Clarence House suggested (instead of an apology).
ysbel said:Now I don't really think Harry knew all this when he wore the costume and the colonial theme is tasteless enough even without Rommel's costume.
ysbel said:Harry's costume was supposedly based on Erwin Rommel who led the German forces in colonial Africa at the beginning of the war.
Rommel's allegiance to the Nazis was not all that certain during the war. Several of his closest aides had been implicated in a plot to assassinate Hitler and he was suspected of involvement though it was never proven. Nazi officials complained that he was constantly and vehemently disparaging their leadership. He was forced by Hitler to face a choice of a sham trial or suicide and he chose suicide.
Now I don't really think Harry knew all this when he wore the costume and the colonial theme is tasteless enough even without Rommel's costume.
gaggleofcrazypeople said:I think everyone is just bored because Harry hasn't been in the news lately.
Queen Mary I said:My uncle told me Rommel was a good man and a good soldier who was anti-Hitler and they forced him to either kill himself or face execution.
Anyway Harry I am sure is much more aware now and knows to be careful, and more sensitive in future.
ysbel said:Good point, Queen Mary I. The colonial theme makes me wonder what some of the other kids were wearing. Not exactly politically correct, would you say?
I think they were willing for Harry to take so much flak for the Nazi costume so that people wouldn't wonder what in the blazes these young kids were up to.
Don't worry about resurrecting an old thread. It happens all the time and sometimes its quite fun.
ysbel said:Not exactly politically correct, would you say?
I think they were willing for Harry to take so much flak for the Nazi costume so that people wouldn't wonder what in the blazes these young kids were up to.
Lady Bluffton said:Considering Harry has 3 great uncles (the brothers-in-law of Prince Phillip), if I'm not mistaken, who served in the German Army during WWII, and a grandfather who served in the British Navy and grandmother in the ATS, you would think he would be a little more attuned to history. Guess not...
Sorry to see the sacrifice of so many people so casually brushed aside by him.
JOY! said:Yeha, it was suppose to be a 'private' party but, I hope he's learned his lesson, that you have to watchful at all times. You never know when someone might take a pic. I do question his motives, I mean the boy can't be so dumb to not know the effect of his actions? he seems a bit immature to me. Hopefully he'll shape up, and won't be so ignorant next time
Queen Mary I said:My uncle told me Rommel was a good man and a good soldier who was anti-Hitler and they forced him to either kill himself or face execution.
HRH Kimetha said:You are right. Anyway, I found really nothing wrong with Harry's party costume in that it was that--a party costume. Too many people made such a big deal about it and quoted war figures, etc. Nobody seems to think going as a terrorist or just a British soldier is anything wrong with that. Perhaps he should have gone as tinkerbell. But, anyway I think he probably would have looked great in the SS black uniform with the black boots, etc and his red hair.
felicia said:Hmmm, except that the SS uniform was worn by evil people who murdered millions of people in concentration camps and also killed tens of thousands of British people with their army. So perhaps not so suitable for the Queen of England's grandson? I think not.
felicia said:Hmmm, except that the SS uniform was worn by evil people who murdered millions of people in concentration camps and also killed tens of thousands of British people with their army. So perhaps not so suitable for the Queen of England's grandson? I think not.
felicia said:Hmmm, except that the SS uniform was worn by evil people who murdered millions of people in concentration camps and also killed tens of thousands of British people with their army. So perhaps not so suitable for the Queen of England's grandson? I think not.
chrissy57 said:Don't get me wrong - the Nazis were among the most evil regimes to ever have control of any country but not all Germans of the time were Nazis. Not even all members of the party were true Nazis. If they joined the party after 1933 questions must be raised about their commitment (depends in some cases as to when the laws requiring membership of the party or an associated organisation was passed as to when I would make that distinction). e.g. with a child who joined the Hitler Youth before 1937 I would question the commitment of the parents - as it was voluntary then but after that date I would suspect that many parents had their children join because they feared some repercussions within their own life.
regardez said:True but I'm sure those nuances were lost to Harry. He generally knew what Nazis represented, yet wore it anyway. But again, this was forever ago
I don't think the che shirt is a big deal though