Prince Harry and Meghan Markle: Church Service, Carriage Procession - May 19, 2018

[jacqui24]

I thought it was because he didn't wait to be asked to say 'I will', but then Meghan didn't wait either. So I am not sure whether she just went along with Harry as to not put him on a spot or whether there was something we didn't see/ hear, maybe the crowd cheering?. haha It was in good spirits though, so I found it lovely.

I found it lovely too, but just didn't get it.

 

[Countessmeout]

I thought it was because he didn't wait to be asked to say 'I will', but then Meghan didn't wait either. So I am not sure whether she just went along with Harry as to not put him on a spot or whether there was something we didn't see/ hear, maybe the crowd cheering?. haha It was in good spirits though, so I found it lovely.

No. The priest finished asking the entire question, before Harry responded. They both responded at the right time, after the question. It was when the crowd outside started cheering, that they and the audience laughed.

 

[Chloep]

I don't think Meghan is isolated as she clearly has substantial relationships outside of her mother. I don't think any of us would say that when you've been close friends for more almost 15 years that you've never had to work through tough conflicts. Sometimes that's more common than with extended family. And you do get closer if you fight right. It might just simply be that she's not close to extended family.

Actually one of her dearest and closest friend (who had the biggest smile on her face Saturday) has been by her side since they were 18. So almost 20 years, really.

It takes great strength distancing yourself from dysfunction, toxicity and abuse. To claim otherwise seems a tad ignorant to me. No, not everything can, or SHOULD be fixed. Lovely sentiment, but a very privileged one. Unfortunately, it is not something to actually seek in certain cases. These past 2 years very nicely showcases that this is one of those cases.

 

[Missy-]

Actually one of her dearest and closest friend (who had the biggest smile on her face Saturday) has been by her side since they were 18. So almost 20 years, really.

It takes great strength distancing yourself from dysfunction, toxicity and abuse. To claim otherwise seems a tad ignorant to me. No, not everything can, or SHOULD be fixed. Lovely sentiment, but a very privileged one. Unfortunately, it is not something to actually seek in certain cases. These past 2 years very nicely showcases that this is one of those cases.

Nowhere was it said she should have invited or maintained a relationship with her half siblings. OTOH there is no excuse for neglecting to invite or even acknowledge the people in the family who have been supportive.

 

[Chloep]

No. The priest finished asking the entire question, before Harry responded. They both responded at the right time, after the question. It was when the crowd outside started cheering, that they and the audience laughed.

Yeah, I did hear that but I was expecting the 'So, answer/respond with 'I will' - essentially the final prompt. I assume this is not as frequently used as I was led to believe though my own experiences? haha

 

[Countessmeout]

Yeah, I did hear that but I was expecting the 'So, answer/respond with 'I will' - essentially the final prompt. I assume this is not as frequently used as I was led to believe though my own experiences? haha

His entire statement to Harry was a question, starting with Do..... to add another question at the end would be redundant at best. Maybe you are used to different phrasing??? His phrasing, the end of his speech meant time to answer as the speech was the question.

 

[XeniaCasaraghi]

They were laughing because you could hear the crowds outside. I guess it was easier to hear them at this venue as opposed to the other ones that have been used.

 

[Chloep]

Nowhere was it said she should have invited or maintained a relationship with her half siblings. OTOH there is no excuse for neglecting to invite or even acknowledge the people in the family who have been supportive.

and which of the family members who have been supportive AND haven't talked to press, did not present a potential privacy threat at the wedding? I just feel this would be an extremely small list of not even a handful of people and who knows whether those would have been/were willing to come. Even on Doria's side, Meghan has a close relationship with her cousin twice removed but her father sold childhood pictures to the Mail. Obviously would never be allowed to come. or the Markle side, it has been stated that Meghan maintains a relationship with Samantha's two daughters. Those two daughters don't maintain a relationship with their own mother though and have come to defend Meghan against Samantha's ridiculousness. So, obviously good intentions, but still a privacy threat as they have established a history of contacting the tabloid press.

What I am saying is that these things are not cut and dry and I do ultimately believe that they made the right decision.

 

[royal rob]

Wedding of Harry and Meghan: Church Service, Carriage Procession and Reception

I don’t understand that they wasn’t anyone on her mothers family that she couldn’t ask. Is her mother an only child ? etc

 

[Chloep]

His entire statement to Harry was a question, starting with Do..... to add another question at the end would be redundant at best. Maybe you are used to different phrasing??? His phrasing, the end of his speech meant time to answer as the speech was the question.

Yeah, I guess that really must be it.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Every last one of them? That's the problem I have, NONE of her family other than Doria were invited. What have her nieces done to be called toxic and excluded?

When the engagement was first announced last fall I expressed my admiration for Meghan due to fact that she was going to have to navigate her new life without the sort of tight knit and protective cocoon that the Middleton family had been for Kate.

I was immediately pounced on by certain other posters. Meghan had the same close knit family as Kate! How dare I say otherwise!

Well umm..no she doesn't. She never had that according to Harry. And the events leading up to the wedding have vindicated my opinion but they have also thrown up all kinds of red flags.

I understand about the whack jobs on her father's side but where were her maternal relatives?

And was there not ONE friend from her childhood before she became famous that she has remained close to?

 

[Missy-]

When the engagement was first announced last fall I expressed my admiration for Meghan due to fact that she was going to have to navigate her new life without the sort of tight knit and protective cocoon that the Middleton family had been for Kate.

I was immediately pounced on by certain other posters. Meghan had the same close knit family as Kate! How dare I say otherwise!

Well umm..no she didnt. And the events leading up to the wedding have vindicated my opinion but they have also thrown up all kinds of red flags.

I understand about the whack jobs on her father's side but where were her maternal relatives?

And was there not ONE friend from her childhood before she became famous that she has remained close to?

Thanks Moonmaiden, LOL. I know it's not just me and you, there are others here who feel the same way and are just afraid to come out and say it for fear of getting jumped on. So thank you for stepping forward, appreciate it!

 

[PtahHotep]

"Your Song," "Circle of Life," "I'm Still Standing" and "Tiny Dancer"

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/elton-john-performs-at-royal-wedding-reception-w520528

Makes sense with "Tiny Dancer," given the reference Rolling Stone mentioned.

Why "I'm Still Standing," though? Oh well............

Thank you kindly, Gawin.

 

[Zaira]

When the engagement was first announced last fall I expressed my admiration for Meghan due to fact that she was going to have to navigate her new life without the sort of tight knit and protective cocoon that the Middleton family had been for Kate.

I was immediately pounced on by certain other posters. Meghan had the same close knit family as Kate! How dare I say otherwise!

Well umm..no she doesn't. She never had that according to Harry. And the events leading up to the wedding have vindicated my opinion but they have also thrown up all kinds of red flags.

I understand about the whack jobs on her father's side but where were her maternal relatives?

And was there not ONE friend from her childhood before she became famous that she has remained close to?

I do not have any friends from my childhood really. I moved away for college and my life changed dramatically and I simply drifted away from those people. I am extremely close to my friends from college and post-college life.

And in terms of close friends, Meghan has known Benita since she was 16/17. Benita's daughters were both in the wedding and Benita and her husband were next to Doria. Doria and her were chatting at times.

Meghan's other best friend, Lindsey, she met when she was 18 as well. She has known and been close to Janina for over 15 years, predating her Hollywood too. That is three examples of pre-hollywood friends. I am pretty sure there are more.

I do not get this "red flag' business. Doria's parents are dead, so is one of her siblings. Her older brother she lost touch with after her dad died, according to him. Her younger brother we do not know much about. Doria supposedly didn't keep in touch with her extended family after her mom's death.

If Doria wanted family there, should would have insisted on it. And since Meghan and Harry seem loathed to refuse Doria anything/treat her like a queen, I think we can assume that Doria herself didn't feel the need to have her family there. It is a shame that Meghan doesn't seem close to either family, but it is what it is.

 

[Zaira]

Afternoon reception read out. As the old proverb goes, "boy is sprung!"

Suhani was a young woman Meghan mentored. Meghan visited her program for women in India in 2017. Cindy Leivi, formally of Glamour, talked about how wonderful the bond was that she saw grow between Meghan and Suhani.

Glad to see Suhani there!

“When Prince Harry was referring to Meghan for the first time as his wife, that’s when everybody was teasing him. He repeated that sentence like four times, and every time, people were cheering.”

“Elton John performed, and the only one song I recognized was ‘The Circle of Life.’ He sang like four songs, and everybody was dancing and enjoying and screaming, ‘Once more! Once more!’ He kept coming back to the stage after every song.”

“I got to speak to Meghan during the reception, when she and Prince Harry were meeting everybody one by one. Even after she has become the Duchess of Sussex, she hasn’t changed. She’s still the same old Meghan I met in New York and after that in India. I gave her a hug, and I congratulated her and thanked her for this opportunity, and she thanked me for coming. We talked about her future work with Myna, and I invited her back to Mumbai again.”

“Meghan looked very simple and elegant and beautiful. She really maintains that in her personality as well. She looked gorgeous, and Harry mentioned that many times: ‘I’m standing next to this gorgeous woman;’ ‘I’m so lucky to call this beautiful woman my wife now.’ I think everybody thought she looked beautiful.”

Suhani Jalota reflects on the Royal Wedding

 

[Chloep]

When the engagement was first announced last fall I expressed my admiration for Meghan due to fact that she was going to have to navigate her new life without the sort of tight knit and protective cocoon that the Middleton family had been for Kate.

I was immediately pounced on by certain other posters. Meghan had the same close knit family as Kate! How dare I say otherwise!

Well umm..no she didnt. And the events leading up to the wedding have vindicated my opinion but they have also thrown up all kinds of red flags.

I understand about the whack jobs on her father's side but where were her maternal relatives?

And was there not ONE friend from her childhood before she became famous that she has remained close to?:ermm:

There were actually several friends present that she has been friends with for 10-20 years. They are just not particularly prominent so they haven't been covered by the media much.

The standard has a pretty decent guest list:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...ily-members-who-were-invited-to-a3843506.html

And (not necessarily directed at you)lets not forget that we are talking about a 36 year old, grown, much travelled, professional women here. Not your recently-out-of-school, high-society girl who has been enjoying the high-life with the same group of people since her birth.

I do agree with you very much though, that Catherine really had an amazingly lovely and stable family background that greatly aided her growth as a young woman. ? I always believed that, no matter how much they were degraded by the snotty crowd. Unfortunately this privilege can be quite seldom. Meghan has previously often expressed how she longs for that type of stability and secure family life of her own one day, saying that her profession was hectic and unpredictable enough.(This was back on the early days of 'The Tig') And it may be in poor taste for me to comment on a failed previous relationship but even back in 2011 the rumours were ripe that this is exactly something that said partner was inexplicably never willing to 'offer' her. Well, anyway, may she find exactly that now.

 

[Zaira]

Meghan had a bracelet - the ‘Kensington’ - made for her six best friends and her new sister in law as a thank you.

Meghan Markle Zofia Day Bracelets | PEOPLE.com

 

[jacqui24]

Nowhere was it said she should have invited or maintained a relationship with her half siblings. OTOH there is no excuse for neglecting to invite or even acknowledge the people in the family who have been supportive.

Supportive or silent? There is a difference.

 

[Ish]

Time to move on from the analysis of Meghan’s family relationships.

 

[DuchessMia]

Meghan had a bracelet - the ‘Kensington’ - made for her six best friends and her new sister in law as a thank you.

Meghan Markle Zofia Day Bracelets | PEOPLE.com

That’s really nice.

 

[Fem]

I watched BBC coverage of the wedding. I swore off US news coverage of BRF events forever after the coverage of the death and funeral of Diana Princess of Wales.

The giddy , shallow and often breathtakingly uninformed American anchors are just hopeless!

The low point for me was when someone (Anderson Cooper? I think?) mistook Zara for Britney Spears at the wedding of Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall ?

 

[Abbigail]

I have been processing this wedding so much, and I'm still at awe how perfect it was. The absolute highlight was how clearly and obviously in love Meghan and Harry are. Harry seeing Meghan the first time, what a sight to see. Meghan blushing at his adoration was cute. Their non stop smiling at each other, the sheer happiness of them. All this made the wedding seem so intimate. I LOVED how happy Meghan's friends were, and Doria, the what an amazing woman, and what clear love and support she has for Meghan. I don't think she once looked lonely, and I don't think she needed anyone there, she was 100% soaking in her flower getting married to a man who loves her so much.
This wedding was everything I wished for them, and so much more.

This. All the looks, touches, exchanges between Harry and Meghan, alone, made this wedding the best of BRF thus far imo. Nothing beats watching two people who are not only in love but who look to be taking total joy in becoming husband and wife. Harry was especially endearing to me with how he made Meghan blush and just with how much he seemed to be taking in every moment with her. He really leaves no doubt that he's fully embraced being a husband and all that entails.

I have to add that the bride's entrance was another one of my highlights. Meghan looked beautiful and regal and that music was exquisite! Also the rendition of Stand By Me was quite moving. I loved that as well.

 

[MARG]

The low point for me was when someone (Anderson Cooper? I think?) mistook Zara for Britney Spears at the wedding of Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall ?

This time round I checked out Youtube and found 'Time' streaming with absolutely NO commentary whatsoever. It was so nice it was almost like being there.

I was watching a clip from abc of the Carriage ride and the constant wittering was enough to drive me up the wall! They quoted that the tiara was last worn by Princess Margaret in 1963 . . . . . they'd seen it on 'The Crown'!!! he said breathlessly. That was the 'Marie Feodorovna's Sapphire Bandeau' you pillock.

 

[luluflossie]

It wasn't a state or even semi-state wedding though.

There was some pageantry--the carriage ride and their military escort, the church, the beautiful music, the veil.

Serious question-Other than some celebrity guests what was "Hollywood" about it? William had some of the same guests at his wedding.

Maybe seeing the guests arriving the way they were, with cameras following every move, just made the showy people stand out.

 

[wyevale]

Prince Charles has always been highly underestimated in MHO.

Beautifully put. M Payton. As the man who brought up two fine men, after the tragic death of their mother, founded [from his military pension], a charity that has MASSIVELY assisted hundreds of thousands of young people in Britain, nurtured organic Farming,and been an outspoken advocate for the environment LONG before it was fashionable to do so. He has nurtured inter-faith dialogue and understanding for DECADES.
In short he IS amazing.
All these achievements are in addition to his 'bread and butter' workload as Prince of Wales,and took place in an atmosphere of quite astonishing bile toward him from those who'only had eyes' for his late wife.
He is a 'Renaissance Man',and those who care to know of his tireless achievements are deeply PROUD of him..

 

[King of the Jungle]

Beautifully put. M Payton. As the man who brought up two fine men, after the tragic death of their mother, founded [from his military pension], a charity that has MASSIVELY assisted hundreds of thousands of young people in Britain, nurtured organic Farming,and been an outspoken advocate for the environment LONG before it was fashionable to do so. He has nurtured inter-faith dialogue and understanding for DECADES.
In short he IS amazing.
All these achievements are in addition to his 'bread and butter' workload as Prince of Wales,and took place in an atmosphere of quite astonishing bile toward him from those who'only had eyes' for his late wife.
He is a 'Renaissance Man',and those who care to know of his tireless achievements are deeply PROUD of him..

Yes, and he's kind and has a great sense of humour.
Charles also seems to be able to become skilled at whatever he tries. Perhaps because he puts in the effort and takes advice from experts.
He's a good painter, gardener, sportsman and musician to name just a few things.

 

[Curryong]

'The only story in Town'. The Royal Wedding. (A selection of British front pages. There were some foreign newspapers who featured the same photos more or less.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoyalReporter?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

[Cocoasneeze]

When it was rumoured, that Amal and Meghan had become friends, I was hoping it would be true, and was positively surprised it was. I've been trying to figure out the connection though, and just today it hit me. Eugenie's fiance works for the company George Clooney used to own. I bet they met that way.

I didn't see anything more Hollywoody in this wedding. I think the York sisters might know more Hollywood people than Meghan does, with Beatrice attending the MET gala lined up with every Hollywood celeb out there.

 

[Fem]

This time round I checked out Youtube and found 'Time' streaming with absolutely NO commentary whatsoever. It was so nice it was almost like being there.

I was watching a clip from abc of the Carriage ride and the constant wittering was enough to drive me up the wall! They quoted that the tiara was last worn by Princess Margaret in 1963 . . . . . they'd seen it on 'The Crown'!!! he said breathlessly. That was the 'Marie Feodorovna's Sapphire Bandeau' you pillock.

No, please tell me you're joking! ?

The royal family youtube account also livestreamed the whole thing without commentary. I used it when I had to leave the living room for a while and didn't want to miss the ceremony. From what I remember, there was over a million people watching there and it was quite shocking for me. It's a lot of people.

Though I have to say, I really enjoyed the commentary on Sky News.

 

[Pranter]

This time round I checked out Youtube and found 'Time' streaming with absolutely NO commentary whatsoever. It was so nice it was almost like being there.

I was watching a clip from abc of the Carriage ride and the constant wittering was enough to drive me up the wall! They quoted that the tiara was last worn by Princess Margaret in 1963 . . . . . they'd seen it on 'The Crown'!!! he said breathlessly. That was the 'Marie Feodorovna's Sapphire Bandeau' you pillock.

When Meghan was visible in the car on her way to the Church the American anchors were gleefully saying It looks like she's wearing the Spencer tiara!

Finally after a couple minutes they realized (or someone told them) it wasn't.


LaRae