Prince Harry and Meghan Markle: Church Service, Carriage Procession - May 19, 2018


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Denville said:
Phil looked very well considering he had major surgery recenetly. I ws delighted to see him walking and looked amazingly fit...
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Not only did he walk, he used the stairs going into the chapel. He looked wonderful for someone who only had hip replacement surgery only 6 weeks ago and is 96. (The older you are the more time it takes to recover from surgery. My own parents are in their early 90s and they don't move as well as he did, they both use walkers.) I was expecting him to use a wheelchair or at least a cane. I'm sure he worked very hard on his post surgery physiotherapy.
 
Mbruno said:
Prince Charles may actually like Meghan or not, I don't know, but, at the wedding, he was just being a gentleman, which is something that is expected from the Prince of Wales. Taking Doria's arm as she was exiting the chapel or walking Meghan down the aisle of the Quire have no deeper meaning than that, especially when Meghan or Doria's family were shut out (or shut themselves out) of the wedding.
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The fact that Meghan even felt comfortable enough to ask Prince Charles to walk her down the aisle speaks volumes of the relationship they have formed. He didn't have to accept, but but he happily did, “The Prince of Wales is pleased to be able to welcome Ms. Markle to The Royal Family in this way.” I think the gesture was heart-felt, not just being a gentleman.
 
I would bet my last cinnamon roll that Meghan and Charles actually bonded really well over drawing up the wedding plans for the music and everything else that goes into that wedding. I think Charles was very hands on in the planning. He also was very hands on with the planning of William and Kate's wedding too.

He's that kind of guy. :D
 
I noticed Fergie did not sit with the family. What are they going to do when Eugenie gets married?
 
Osipi said:
I would bet my last cinnamon roll that Meghan and Charles actually bonded really well over drawing up the wedding plans for the music and everything else that goes into that wedding. I think Charles was very hands on in the planning. He also was very hands on with the planning of William and Kate's wedding too.

He's that kind of guy. :D
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I agree. He's also into environmental issues and sustainability. It's my understanding it was his decision to only serve organic food at the reception he hosted. I suspect Meghan can relate to that.
 
I'm sorry if I missed the post. Why isn't this wedding listed under the Royal Weddings' Section?
 
Madame Verseau said:
I noticed Fergie did not sit with the family. What are they going to do when Eugenie gets married?
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She’ll sit with the family then. She’s not really Harry’s family directly, but his uncle’s ex-wife. She’s Eugenie’s mother.
 
Madame Verseau said:
I noticed Fergie did not sit with the family. What are they going to do when Eugenie gets married?
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Eh, there's a difference between attending as ex-aunt who still has a decent relationship with the groom and being Mother of the Bride.

If worst comes to worst they might just sit Sarah with Jack's family to keep her physically separated from Philip and the BRF while still giving her a significant seat.
 
jacqui24 said:
They left an empty seat next to William in the first role. Same seat as Jessica Mulroney was sitting at across the aisle. I thought that was for Diana?
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Actually, I believe the seat was Harry's. Its where he sat waiting for his bride to arrive. No one entered to be seated after the Queen and when Harry stood up for the processional, it was left empty.
 
Madame Verseau said:
I noticed Fergie did not sit with the family. What are they going to do when Eugenie gets married?
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Hmmm...that's a very good question. As the mother of the bride she's entitled to be at the front of the church. I suspect she and Andrew may even want to sit together at their daughter's wedding. I wouldn't be surprised if she sat with the Royal Family but somehow apart from Philip and Charles who (I believe) are her main detractors.
 
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Mbruno said:
Oprah, Serena and the Clooneys were on the bride’s side of the Quire.
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I believe Charles Spencer was as well. But after the choir. I remember seeing Countess Spencer’s dress when Baroness Fellows was doing the reading and thought he was seated on the wrong side. Honestly, I wouldn’t ready as much to the seating here. St. George’s is small and they had to get creative. Baroness Fellows didn’t have that great of a seat in the Quire either, and she did the reading.
 
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Lumutqueen said:
I don’t think who was on the steps has anything to do with “happy families”. Frankly something tells me that Lady Jane wasn’t supposed to be on the steps at all, or that she was invited due to reading during the ceremony. If you’re really going to say that the exclusion of uncles and aunts from the steps means no happy families, then it’s very awkward for Edward, Anne and Andrew.....
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Yea, I think it likely had more to do with her role in the wedding than just being an aunt.
 
True. After the ceremony got underway with the Queen being seated last before the bridal procession, Harry stood as well as William and got in position to meet his bride. The chair then was empty. He was sitting there with William though waiting at first. :D
 
Rudolph said:
I wonder if many of the African American commentators in the news have ever actually been to Britain. Do they know about the story of blacks in Britain vs America. It’s two entirely different histories.

About 20 years ago Oprah was in Toronto for something and she later remarked on her show she didn’t know black people lived in Canada until she seen them in person. Really? Oprah obviously never heard of the Underground Railroad.

Anyway it’s slightly odd to me Americans are more into the racial aspect than Brits. Although Britain has always been more progressive than America.
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Re: Oprah. Most African-Americans would not know much about African diaspora people living in Canada, although of course would know they exist. In this country, we have more experience with Africans, Caribbeans and Haitians. There aren't just a ton of these African descended people in Canada. The US has the largest population of African diaspora people in the world. I think Oprah was being hyperbolic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_diaspora

It's not at all odd that Americans are into the racial aspects of the marriage than Brits, and I'd argue that it's mostly black Americans who care. Several white people I know would mention that Meghan doesn't "look" black, which seems as if people are trying to white wash her. Black people care because never in a million years that the whitest family on earth would accept a black person in its ranks. It is completely inconceivable to black Americans, much as it was inconceivable that Barack Obama would be elected President.
 
Nico said:
Precisely, the ones Harry chose to be involved in the Wedding. It could have been an exit of the entire family (like for Peter and Autumn).
The picture on the steps meant something special ...
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So the queen had her entire family use the same church exit for the wedding of her grandson Peter (meaning, ‘group family photo op’) I wonder why separate exits were used at Harry’s? No group family photos :sad:... Interesting.

There’s a little debate on twitter re scowl/stern look throughout yesterday’s ceremony.
https://twitter.com/x/status/997965274753175552

https://twitter.com/x/status/998286912606613504
 
Jessica helped with the veil as the couple went to sign the register. She might have been seated on the end for that reason.
 
Mbruno said:
I don't want to get into this discussion because the moderators normally shut down the forum whenever British/American history is discussed, but, in a very short and simplistic way, the British were among the early leaders in the transatlantic slave trade (to be fair, in partnership with several African states/kingdoms/chiefdoms themselves).
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:previous:Spin.
More like those “African states/kingdoms/chiefdoms” lived under the threat of the mighty western ‘GUN’ that they themselves had no access to. I learned it was a combination of tactics. The western policy of divide, conquer and rule, backed up by gun and ammunition supplies.
 
OK that's enough discussion on the history of slavery - this is not related to the Royal Wedding, so please let's move on. Thank you.
 
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Lady Reem said:
So the queen had her entire family use the same church exit for the wedding of her grandson Peter (meaning, ‘group family photo op’) I wonder why separate exits were used at Harry’s? No group family photos :sad:... Interesting.

There’s a little debate on twitter re scowl/stern look throughout yesterday’s ceremony.
https://twitter.com/x/status/997965274753175552

https://twitter.com/x/status/998286912606613504
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If you look at the map of St. George's Chapel you can see that the entrance the Queen and Philip used allowed him to avoid stairs, and to walk a much shorter distance than if he had had to walk up the Nave to the Quire. It also gave the royal family a bit more privacy than if they had processed up the main aisle.

I also noticed that when the Queen and Philip arrived at the chapel initially, the camera cut away from the car when it was time for Philip to exit the car, so I suspect he may still have some problems maneuvering.
 
Please, what have been US interest in this wedding ? Was it shown on TV, talked about in magazines and so on.... Thanks in advance
 
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Not surprising at all it was America’s royal wedding. The numbers differential is almost exact. Approximately 7 million more Americans watched this wedding over 2011 and approximately 7 million more Brits watched the 2011 wedding over Harry’s.
 
Osipi said:
I would bet my last cinnamon roll that Meghan and Charles actually bonded really well over drawing up the wedding plans for the music and everything else that goes into that wedding. I think Charles was very hands on in the planning. He also was very hands on with the planning of William and Kate's wedding too.

He's that kind of guy. :D
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I don't have the time to be here on the forum that much today----but I'd like to say I agree with you. Tina Brown texted last night that she found out the idea for the wonderful choir who sang "Stand By me" and 'This little Light Of Mine" was HIS idea. He is a Gospel fan.

My mind was blown. In a good way.:lol: :lol:

Frankly, I don't like Charles, because of what he did to Diana (or supposedly did), but I am willing to admit there are shades of grey to everybody.
I do hope Meghan and Charles expand their relationship. ?

He might even become like a second father to her. ?
 
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