Prince Andrew, Duke of York News and Events 8: Sep 2022 -

[muriel]

But what would they do if he agrees to move? Let the Lodge be empty and go totally to waste?

The Lease with the Crown estate can be terminated, and Andrew could be in line for a payout. for the remaining c55 years of the lease.

The Crown Estate could then decide what it wanted to do with the property. Over time, the property could be sold (Fort Belvedere was sold) or leased out. It is within Windsor Great Park, so that may restrict what the building could potentially be used for.

But they knew about the size of Adelaide Cottage, why did they move in then?

I think the Wales family just wanted a "normal" home for their family.

Despite what is being said in the press, I don't think W&C are that keen to take on Royal Lodge. I suspect two of their children will go to Boarding school in two years, so they will be happy to just stay at Adelaide Cottage.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

But what would they do if he agrees to move? Let the Lodge be empty and go totally to waste?

It would definitely NOT be empty. William has reportedly had his eye on the property even before the death of QEII.

And he is said to be more keen than ever to live there now that he is PoW. He wants a home "befitting his status".

My suspicion is that it is the prospect of handing the place over to William...who already has lavish homes at Kensington Palace and Anmer Hall...rather than to one of his daughters that galls Andrew more than anything else.

Surely William has other options befitting his rank. But other than his family, RL is all Andrew has left.

 

[tommy100]

That is another good point, the lease on Royal Lodge specifically allowed him to pass it on to Beatrice or Eugenie (as far as I can recall) - the reality is would either want it? If Andrew is struggling to pay for it and maintain it I really don't see his daughters being able to. I also suspect Edo (who is the most likely to be able to afford it IMO) would rather throw any money into a property he owns outright not one is simply leasing from the Crown Estate. To be honest, one of the girls taking over a lease on Frogmore when Andrew is gone is more plausible than Royal Lodge IMO.


Honestly, I'm not sure how accurate the reports of William taking over Royal Lodge are. I think that would be a hard sell for him and his team to the public but equally, he and Charles are probably the only real ones who can afford it. Charles was one of the closest to his late grandmother, if he is happy to see it go then I think it will go out to a public tender in the long run. I'm sure they can move 'The Little House' which was a gift from Wales if they really really wanted to.

 

[Sunnystar]

But they knew about the size of Adelaide Cottage, why did they move in then?

Because they wanted to move out to Windsor for the kids' school.

 

[Leopoldine]

I also read that Adelaide Cottage was in fine condition, so they could move right in before the school term.

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of York was seen riding today, June 3:


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[TLLK]

I also read that Adelaide Cottage was in fine condition, so they could move right in before the school term.

I recall that there had been recent renovations in 2015 so AC was move in ready.

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of York was seen riding yesterday, June 13:


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[maria-olivia]

Was Prince Andrew on horse back when his Mother was alive ?

 

[Iluvbertie]

Yes. He upped his horse-riding when he was appointed as Colonel of the Grenadier Guards so he could ride in Trooping the Colour. Even though he has been stripped of that position he continues to ride. He did it during covid which also allowed him to check on his parents at Windsor - not necessarily seeing them 'in person' but at least able to talk to them through windows etc or even see them while outside, within the existing rules.

 

[Toledo]

He is not going to move out on his own. I think he pretends he's holding court at Frogmore, at least on his mind, and won't let go of the last remnant of royal life he has from when the Queen was around.
He can't see he is no longer needed around, nor anyone wants association with him.

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of York has been seen riding today, July 3:


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[Lady Daly]

What a surprise, Andrew horse riding around Windsor. That seems like the only time we ever see him anymore. Has he been so ostracized we wouldn't find him out with his family occasionally for a dinner or a movie or even a beer at the local pub. How must he spend his time?

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of York was seen riding yesterday, July 27:


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[TLLK]

What a surprise, Andrew horse riding around Windsor. That seems like the only time we ever see him anymore. Has he been so ostracized we wouldn't find him out with his family occasionally for a dinner or a movie or even a beer at the local pub. How must he spend his time?

Perhaps he's put away the golf clubs and picked up a sander and paint brush? It's possible that he's taken on some DIY house repairs for Royal Lodge Windsor.

 

[Lady Daly]

Perhaps he's put away the golf clubs and picked up a sander and paint brush? It's possible that he's taken on some DIY house repairs for Royal Lodge Windsor.

I can't keep myself from laughing!

 

[Alison H]

He's going to Balmoral with the others. But, from what the papers say, he rarely leaves Royal Lodge these days. Maybe he watches a lot of TV!

 

[hereditarytitles]

He's going to Balmoral with the others. But, from what the papers say, he rarely leaves Royal Lodge these days. Maybe he watches a lot of TV!

What a dull and boring life that must be. If I were him I would have searched for some useful things to occupy myself and maybe that would have helped to get my public negative image improved. What about some charity work, that is always needed and welcome. But that's probably not to his snobbish tastes, as I am convinced he still thinks that he hasn't made mistakes and the world is treating him badly.

 

[Somebody]

The one time he tried to do some charity work during the pandemic, he only got negative reactions to it. So, in his case, I'm not sure that it is always welcome...

 

[ladongas]

With assistance, he could surely find a suitable charity that would welcome another pair of hands. However, he is at retirement age, approximately, and perhaps he wishes not to ride, play golf, and watch tv. It’s his choice.

 

[Curryong]

IMO Andrew could find a local charity where he could help out in the back and work without being seen by public or Press. But he obviously doesn’t want to.

 

[Toledo]

Andrew's reputation will always be haunted by all the interviews he did denying claims or involvement with Epstein. At this point the best way for him to spend his retirement years is to invest in something that can produce a steady income and completely avoid the urge to be in charities. His tarnished image and personality won't be a good public relations movement for any charity that wants him involved as a colleague or patron.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

The Duke's spokesperson-friends appear to have changed tack, at least momentarily. After many briefings over the past years about how ill-treated he allegedly feels and how restricted his life allegedly is, the "friends" claimed in July that the Duke's life at Royal Lodge is relatively content and busy after all, though there is an acknowledgement that charity work is out of his reach.

Inside shamed Prince Andrew's secret ‘swanky’ life at Royal Lodge

PRINCE Andrew’s fall from grace has been so dramatic that on the face of it there is nothing left in his life beyond his family and occasional exercise. There are spells when it seems he can go day…

www.thesun.co.uk

No one has lined up to date Andrew, either, and he’s not dangerous. At some point, a pariah is a pariah.

The above article quotes the Duke's biographer Andrew Downie, whose understanding is that the Duke has had various romantic relationships with middle-aged women, including at least one recently (though Mr. Downie is not very specific about the timeline).

 

[Hallo girl]

He could still carry out charity work quietly in the background. He does not need to be a patron but an actual hands on worker. Doing something quietly out of sight for now.

 

[Mirabel]

Perhaps William doesn't want Royal Lodge, but would Camilla, if she survives Charles?
I know she has a home of her own from before she married Charles. but Royal Lodge seems favored by Queen Dowagers.

 

[Curryong]

I think, if Camilla survives Charles, that she will be quite happy with her old home Ray Mill.

 

[Somebody]

He could still carry out charity work quietly in the background. He does not need to be a patron but an actual hands on worker. Doing something quietly out of sight for now.

That's exactly what he was doing the last time: being a hands-on worker. However, a picture got out and people didn't respond positively. So I'm afraid he is in a loose-loose situation.

 

[Queen Claude]

King Charles fires Prince Andrew's ten-man private security team at Windsor mansion in latest attempt to force disgraced royal out of Royal Lodge​

• READ: King Charles 'wants to rent out Windsor Royal Lodge for £1m a year'

By Katherine Lawton
Published: 18:45 EDT, 17 August 2024 | Updated: 21:07 EDT, 17 August 2024

King Charles fires Prince Andrew's ten-man private security team

King Charles has long been trying to get his brother out of the 30-room, £30milliion property in Windsor, which Andrew lives in with ex-wife Sarah Ferguson.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Tatiana Maria]

The Daily Mail is reporting on (and, to its credit, links to) the Sun's exclusive:

King axes Andrew's security team at Windsor mansion piling on pressure

DISGRACED Prince Andrew is under new pressure to quit his Royal Lodge home after the King laid off its ten-strong security team. Charles, 75, has told the detail they are no longer needed from the …

www.thesun.co.uk

The King has been funding private guards at the 31-room Windsor pile since Andrew’s £3million-a-year armed cops were removed in 2022 amid the US sex abuse case.

A Palace insider told The Sun on Sunday last night: “Everyone is speculating this means the Duke will have to leave the Royal Lodge because what other reason could there be to take his security away?

“They are all working the final weeks of their contract till the end of October. It’s not thought anyone is being lined up to replace them.[..."]

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The Sun on Sunday understands the Royal Household would not move any royals into the [Royal Lodge] property but look to find a new tenant.

William and Kate do not want to move their family to the Lodge from Adelaide Cottage.

Two apartments at Kensington Palace are being refurbished but neither is being earmarked for Andrew, it is understood.

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The Sun on Sunday is not naming the private security firm guarding Royal Lodge.

The firm and Buckingham Palace both declined to comment.​

I wonder why the King is so determined to force his brother to renounce his 75-year lease to leave Royal Lodge. What difference does it make which royal residence he lives in?

 

[Curryong]

One of the headlines above state that if Andrew leaves Royal Lodge the Crown Estate can ask for a million pounds a year in rent or lease arrangements for the property. That’s not small change. If it could be considered worthwhile to deeply upset a sibling in order to get it is debatable though.