Lord Frederick Windsor News 1: July 2003-September 2009


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Hello magazine has a few pages about the engagement of Freddie and Sophie - it says that he proposed during a visit to Frogmore House at Windsor on Valentine's Day (maybe like Peter and Autumn thet could have their reception here). It also states that Princess Michael is "euphoric" that Freddie is marrying and that she gets along well with Sophie as they are very similiar with their love of the arts. Hello suggests that in the time of the economic crisis, the Kents could be aware that holding a lavish celebration (similair to the one organised in 2001 for Freddie's 21st birthday at the Orangery in Kensington Palace for over 500 guests in a Loius XIV theme) would bot be appropiate. Instead it suggests that wedding may take place in Suffolk where Sophie's parents have a house.

Prince Charles is Freddie's godfather and could be a likely guest as are William and Harry who are close to the Kent children.
 
Perhaps the current members of the BRF will accept those "tastefully done" sex scenes and let by gones be by gones. However, I have a feeling the previous generation of royals are spinning in their graves.
Congratulations to the couple.
 
The title of that newspaper report was shocking but on reading the article I don't think there is anything to worry about. I thought at first that she had been in a pornographic film but it was a perfectly legitimate film by a twice Oscar nominated director and seems to have been made whilst she was with Lord Freddie so it won't be a surprise to him.
 
I was rather put off by the statement that the first site of her in the film is performing a sex act. Not "involved in a steamy love scene", but "performing a sex act." That just sounds cheap.:ermm:
 
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Freddie Windsor's royal bride-to-be appears in sex scenes in her latest film | Mail Online
The latest work by Freddie Windsor's fiancee is unlikely to make it as far as the Kensington Palace DVD player.
For Sophie Winkleman, who is engaged to be married to Lord Frederick, the son of Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, appears in several sex scenes in Love Live Long.
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Idriel said:
Well for a long time stage actresses supplement their income with prostitution. Even after that practice stopped they were always at the leading edge of sexual freedom and generally bohemian behaviour. That kind of reputation isn't so easy so wash. ... [snipped]
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You are quite right. A fair number of actresses/ballet dancers used to have Maecenas, who would support them financially in return of having intimate relationships. For instance, a famous ballet dancer such as Matilda Kshesinskaya was supported by then Tsarevich Nicholas and Grand Duke George Alexandrovich, his brother. The times have changed. Let us what will come out of this union.
 
I think the fact that he doesn't perform royal duties and isn't supported by the Crown gives Freddie a bit more freedom in choosing a partner. Even if she has done questionable movies (as the tabloid articles are now trying to suggest), they will be able to live a private life out of the spotlight. She won't be subject to public scrutiny in the same way that Prince Andrew's wife would be; that seems to have been a big part of the Koo Stark problem.
 
I always love how the Britsh press is ONLY happy for a prospective royal bride for the first minute of joy....and then immediately start the hatchet job on her background, life, etc..........too funny...pathetic, and sad..
 
The last post is so right. The Mail, as usual, are at their nasty best. The pics chosen to accompany the article (which show Sophie in character) have clearly been selected to portray her in a negative light. There is no mention of her being a Cambridge University graduate or photos of her dressed as elegantly as she always is in real life. It stinks that the press go out of their way to try and smear certain people just because it creates a juicy headline. Memories of the Countess of Wessex's topless photo that was published just before her marraige springs to mind as that was a similair attempt to make a decent woman look like a tart out of pure nastiness.
 
I think that there's a difference. Sophie didn't (ahem) "touch herself", and she wasn't paid to have that photo taken.

angela said:
The last post is so right. The Mail, as usual, are at their nasty best. The pics chosen to accompany the article (which show Sophie in character) have clearly been selected to portray her in a negative light. There is no mention of her being a Cambridge University graduate or photos of her dressed as elegantly as she always is in real life. It stinks that the press go out of their way to try and smear certain people just because it creates a juicy headline. Memories of the Countess of Wessex's topless photo that was published just before her marraige springs to mind as that was a similair attempt to make a decent woman look like a tart out of pure nastiness.
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While there is a difference, its important to note that one assumes that its a stimulated sex act, and not a porn movie. Moreover, Freddie doesn't perform official duties.

Its a shame that in this day in age, NOTHING is private. ANd yes, I realize that by making a movie...she is hardly doing something private. Even the most public official is entitled to a little bit of privacy. But this is too me is yet another example that if someone does something, says something to someone famous (a la Joe the Plumber) every facet of their life is exposed to the public.

Its truly a wonder anyone would want to become famous and/or marry a member of a royal family. Its a wonder any of them get married in this day and age.
 
I agree with Zonk. Technically speaking, Lord Frederic is a private citizen, who is free to do as he pleases. He makes rare appearances alongside the British royal family, but he does not carry any engagements on the behalf of the British royal family. I am not sure why British press will try to dish the dirt about Lord Frederic and his fiance. My assumption is that press tries to make an mountain out of a molehill.
 
In response to a previous post, it might also be said that if Sophie Winkleman is topless in this film (and I don't know if she is bcause I havn't seen it and any stills I have seen in newspapers show her in her underwear so it might all be exagerated anyway) in relation to relevent story lines then that is more tasteful than someone who exposes themselves in private for a giggle ie The Countess of Wessex. Others may take it differently. I for one have no opinion here nor there as IMO both ladies are decent, hard working people who were portrayed unfairly in the media out of nastiness prior to their marraiges.
 
Any pics of the engagement ring she received from him?
 
In contradiction of their own headline, it seems that the "topless" Ms Winkelman isn't topless after all. Do they teach this stuff in Journalism School? :ermm:
From the Mail online link:

Sophie, who stars in Mike Figgis’s risqué Love Live Long, has been forced to deny that she goes topless and has sex in the film, to the great embarrassment of her future Royal in-laws.
 
I don't understand why this is a big deal. Freddy's unlikely to be king, short of a King Ralph incident. And if Princess Michael, who is as high in the instep as anybody, isn't having a tantrum about it, why should the tabloids care?
 
Because people like to read about scandal, real or made-up. The tabloids thrive on scandal.:flowers:

iowabelle said:
I don't understand why this is a big deal. Freddy's unlikely to be king, short of a King Ralph incident. And if Princess Michael, who is as high in the instep as anybody, isn't having a tantrum about it, why should the tabloids care?
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True enough. They seem especially hard up for royal news these days -- the Mail ran a story this week about how Beatrice and Fergie look alike (no kidding). Lord Frederick's actress fiancee is just good story fodder for them. I don't think it's reflective of any turmoil within the family about the match.
 
I don't think it should be too much of a controversy, and the fact that it is written at all shows lack of real interesting scandal. Princess Michael may be perceived as caring too much about royal blood, but she also definitely loves her children and would probably respect any woman her son thought good enough to be his wife.

The only thing I thought was funny was the role Miss Winkleman played on The Palace (I think it was only on for one season) where I believe she was trying to discredit a younger brother in order to take the throne. Ironic.

I do hope people refer to her properly after the marriage, as "Lady Frederick". "Sophie" would be a little confusing, with the Countess of Wessex around.
 
Sophie Winkleman seems a really nice girl and any newspaper is just trying to dig up dirt on her - she is an actress so of course some of her jobs maybe arent going to be to the liking of the royal relatives and staunch conservatives but im sure it is not a reflection on her as a person. She isnt seen coming out of night clubs drunk at 3am like some more prominant figures and since her and Freddie have started dating he seems to have calmed down. I really hope that this marriage works and im sure she will be a great addition to the wider royal family.
 
Prince of Chota said:
... Princess Michael may be perceived as caring too much about royal blood, but she also definitely loves her children and would probably respect any woman her son thought good enough to be his wife. ... [snipped]
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Right you are ... It is far more important to see a son/daughter happy and respect his/her choice as well as give him/her support, if needed. Uppity attitudes will only undermine relationships within a family. It would be fair to assume that Princess Michael fully realise it and does not wish to prompt any more negative comments/articles from mass media.
 
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