The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 6: Aug. 2021- Oct. 2022


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sophie25 said:
This woman is still a British royal Duchess at the end of the day and drinking milk from a baby bottle etc is ridiculous behaviour for someone who still uses her title daily. Whether some people want to admit it or not this does degrade the Monarchy as she is the daughter in law and sister in law of the next two future Kings.
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I agree with you Sophie.
 
intothesea said:
But, I worry those images of her squatting and drinking from a baby bottle will be memes for a long time whenever someone doesn’t want to take her initiatives seriously. She put her image at risk in this way. Harry’s interview with Cordon had that awkward bathroom scene but you couldn’t take an image of it…I think, actually and ironically, Harry may be more PR savvy.
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I mean people used all her pre-Royal work against her anyways. There were papers calling her a porn star cause she filmed love scenes on her TV show. Cat ears and drinking milk are fine compared to that.
 
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Curryong said:
I have to say that Ellen isn’t my favourite talk show host by a mile. Nevertheless, it’s a bit of light entertainment, not everything has to be serious and deep.

It looked to me like two women who get on well together chatting and having some fun. And I was very glad to see that Archie is a ginger, though different to his dad who was more coppery haired when small. Happy to see that Meghan still actively supports paid maternity leave. And I am sure that the single mum appreciated the gift of 40k from Ellen and Meghan. It will certainly help her pay a few bills.
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If the story Harry told about a senior Royal fretting about the appearance or skin tone of his future children with Meghan he or she can relax now.

Because just as I predicted before he was born, Archie does not look any less White than any of the other children in the House of Windsor.:cool:

I say IF the conversation took place because unfortunately I am inclined to question the veracity of most of Harry and Meghan's pronouncements now.:sad:
 
sophie25 said:
This woman is still a British royal Duchess at the end of the day and drinking milk from a baby bottle etc is ridiculous behaviour for someone who still uses her title daily. Whether some people want to admit it or not this does degrade the Monarchy as she is the daughter in law and sister in law of the next two future Kings.
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Any potential embarrassment to the BRF from her appearance on the Ellen show pales in comparison to her behaviour over the last few years: from the exit from "The Firm" that lacked either dignity or grace, her allegations of racism in her interview on the Oprah show, "forgetting" her involvement in the Finding Freedom book..... So my sense is that the BRF are not that concerned about what she said or how she may have come across on the Ellen show.
 
Moonmaiden23 said:
If the story Harry told about a senior Royal fretting about the appearance or skin tone of his future children with Meghan he or she can relax now.

Because just as I predicted before he was born, Archie does not look any less White than any of the other children in the House of Windsor.:cool:

I say IF the conversation took place because unfortunately I am inclined to question the veracity of most of Harry and Meghan's pronouncements now.:sad:
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The fact anyone thinks Harry and Meghan should "relax" because their son "looks as white as the other children" is a problem within itself. I know that is likely not how you meant it but sheesh.
 
muriel said:
Any potential embarrassment to the BRF from her appearance on the Ellen show pales in comparison to her behaviour over the last few years: from the exit from "The Firm" that lacked either dignity or grace, her allegations of racism in her interview on the Oprah show, "forgetting" her involvement in the Finding Freedom book..... So my sense is that the BRF are not that concerned about what she said or how she may have come across on the Ellen show.
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Exactly! Everything she has done in the last two years is more a reflection on her than the BRF. And as someone previously stated I believe there is a more of a tendency to take everything these two say with a grain of salt.
 
Meghan did her best to make it clear that she was distancing herself from the RF. (Except when she introduces herself, of course.) Does it really matter if people like or dislike her? Either way, few people think she represents the RF and their values in any capacity.

But I have to admit I do admire her tenacity. In the face of recent court developments, she keeps pretending that nothing happened and she's still a star. I can only wish she had adhered to the "Never complain, never explain" rule three or even two years ago. It's now clear that she can do it. She was just unwilling before, IMO, and that was when her problem was with tabloids, not the court of law.
 
Zonk said:
Exactly! Everything she has done in the last two years is more a reflection on her than the BRF. And as someone previously stated I believe there is a more of a tendency to take everything these two say with a grain of salt.
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When I say damaging I don't mean in terms of the royals having done anything wrong I mean that they need to be seen as special and different to the rest of us to merit the treatment they get. In the modern World this notion is evaporating quickly and when one on their close relatives behaves like this it is only going to speed up that process. Whether that's a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion but, without doubt, when people see things like this it does undermine the point of the institution.
 
ACO said:
The fact anyone thinks Harry and Meghan should "relax" because their son "looks as white as the other children" is a problem within itself. I know that is likely not how you meant it but sheesh.
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That is not what Moonmaiden wrote or implied (unless by "anyone" you meant the Sussexes).

ACO said:
There were papers calling her a porn star cause she filmed love scenes on her TV show.
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In which paper was that stated? The closest which I have found is an article from the Sun which stated that scenes from the show Suits had been posted on a pornography website. https://www.thesun.co.uk/clarifications/2838630/clarification-miss-meghan-markle-an-apology/
 
Tatiana Maria said:
That is not what Moonmaiden wrote or implied (unless by "anyone" you meant the Sussexes).



In which paper was that stated? The closest which I have found is an article from the Sun which stated that scenes from the show Suits had been posted on a pornography website. https://www.thesun.co.uk/clarifications/2838630/clarification-miss-meghan-markle-an-apology/
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That's not how I interpreted Moonmaiden's comment either. This is how things can get out of hand very quickly and people start getting accused of all sorts.
 
I haven't watched the episode of Ellen but I don't understand why Meghan and Harry release photos of Archie from behind. It seems passive-aggressive to me. He is a child and has a right to privacy but if they truly don't want to invade his privacy, don't release any photos.
 
Queen Claude said:
Two observations:
Red hair runs on both sides of the family, and Archie's red hair can be from the Markle side.


I was not a fan of the prank, but in the early part of the skit / prank, I thought Meghan had good comedic delivery.
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Meghan's older brother appears to have strawberry blond hair. Since red hair is a rare recessive trait, it can lurk in a family's gene pool and appear in ways that seem idiosyncratic.

Archie's hair does not appear to be as bright as his dad's coppery hair, more like a more muted auburn.
 
US Royal Watcher said:
I haven't watched the episode of Ellen but I don't understand why Meghan and Harry release photos of Archie from behind. It seems passive-aggressive to me. He is a child and has a right to privacy but if they truly don't want to invade his privacy, don't release any photos.
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Some people are funny about their kid's photos being public. My sister is not at all famous but she's picky about who can see her kid's faces on line. And I've often seen people post photos of their kids from behind, or with their faces digitally covered.
 
US Royal Watcher said:
I haven't watched the episode of Ellen but I don't understand why Meghan and Harry release photos of Archie from behind. It seems passive-aggressive to me. He is a child and has a right to privacy but if they truly don't want to invade his privacy, don't release any photos.
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Why shouldn't they release pictures? People aren't entitled to see their faces. Why does it matter? Frankly I understand why they don't want to subject their kids to potential attacks because people dislike their parents.

It is a cute picture. It was nice to see him since we all know how rare it is.
 
Curbside said:
Some people are funny about their kid's photos being public. My sister is not at all famous but she's picky about who can see her kid's faces on line. And I've often seen people post photos of their kids from behind, or with their faces digitally covered.
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I understand why people don't want to post pictures of their child's face, but I don't understand why they bother posting at all.
 
sophie25 said:
This woman is still a British royal Duchess at the end of the day and drinking milk from a baby bottle etc is ridiculous behaviour for someone who still uses her title daily. Whether some people want to admit it or not this does degrade the Monarchy as she is the daughter in law and sister in law of the next two future Kings.
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Absolutely - we enjoy this on 'I'm a celebrity, get me out of here', but not from a member of the Royal Family. She doesn't seem able to distinguish the two.
 
ACO said:
The fact anyone thinks Harry and Meghan should "relax" because their son "looks as white as the other children" is a problem within itself. I know that is likely not how you meant it but sheesh.
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How I meant it is IF it's true that a member of BRF made the unborn child's complexion an issue , his/her racist worrying should be put to rest.

Because of everything I read about the Oprah interview, that statement is what revolted me as much as Meghan's allegation that she was denied counseling outright.

Which I no longer believe btw.
 
If the worst she does from now on is clown around on talk shows without slandering anyone, I'm fine with that. I don't think it meshes very well with her stated goal of avoiding media attention and preserving her children's privacy, but those things really only affect her own life, and aren't hurting anyone else either way.
 
sophie25 said:
This woman is still a British royal Duchess at the end of the day and drinking milk from a baby bottle etc is ridiculous behaviour for someone who still uses her title daily. Whether some people want to admit it or not this does degrade the Monarchy as she is the daughter in law and sister in law of the next two future Kings.
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Just a reminder that Prince Andrew was friends with the dead rapist pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Prince Andrew is accused of sexually abusing underage girls. His legal fees are being paid for by the Queen.

Who is more "degrading" to the Monarchy? The accused sex offender or a former actress?
 
UglyAmerican said:
If the worst she does from now on is clown around on talk shows without slandering anyone, I'm fine with that. I don't think it meshes very well with her stated goal of avoiding media attention and preserving her children's privacy, but those things really only affect her own life, and aren't hurting anyone else either way.
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This nicely sums up how I feel also. However they choose to go forward from here is their own decisions. They have to succeed on their own merits regardless of whether or not they're considered "royal". They are now classified as "celebrities" mostly and those circles are where you're going to find these two if you choose to want to know what they're up to.

I just want the connections still being made to the family Harry left behind to die down if not out. Harry and Meghan are no longer in any way to have an impact on the monarchy of the UK and it's family institution known as the "Firm".
 
Muffin said:
Just a reminder that Prince Andrew was friends with the dead rapist pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Prince Andrew is accused of sexually abusing underage girls. His legal fees are being paid for by the Queen.

Who is more "degrading" to the Monarchy? The accused sex offender or a former actress?
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Yes, he's a disgrace and is damaging the Monarchy massively, as is the Queen's overt support of him. Who's arguing with that?
 
The timeliness of Meghan's appearance on the show, billed as a sudden surprise, and the silly hijinks she engaged in on the program were effective in knocking the "I forgot"/perjury stories to the back burner. That's some nifty PR footwork.

I sympathize with Charles and Camilla whose carefully planned trip to Jordan and Egypt has been overshadowed by Meghan's Ellen appearance.
 
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... Meghan has been caught lying at court and now, when it's too late, she's showing that she can actually adhere to the "Never complain, never explain" rule.

I find her appearance at Ellen rather bold (not to say a stronger word) for someone who was so very hurt that evil tabloids claimed she made her postpartum SIL cry. That couldn't be borne and she needed to say her own truth... but when she's caught lying to court, she makes herself the court jester and all is fine and well?

I don't think so. ...
 
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BTW, I found that remark about having one kid being a hobby and two being parenting that she so revers in very bad taste and extremely unfunny.

Who in their right mind doesn't know that having a second means adjustment for the first? And how does adjustment connect with this bad joke about hobby and parenting?

Funny thing is, in most families I know, first child is the one parented hardest. With the next ones, you already know they won't die from screaming if you don't come out of the shower, shampoo running down your back, as soon as they wake up.
 
And in light of the recent commentary, this thread will see a premature closure.
 
I remember Harry persuading Rihanna into an AIDS test in the Bahamas in 2016!

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-38175960

His AIDS patronages were one of the things Harry had to give up. I remember in the Caribean tour he got tested. I’m glad Harry hasn?t forgotten the importance of this world organisation and its Day. Covid may be raging everywhere but AIDS is still a significant problem in parts of the Third World. Linking the possible effects of neglecting testing (and vaccinations) for both mustn?t be ignored.
 
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He didn't say much about AIDS, did he? Once again, it was about COVID and his version of who is to blame for the situation. It's time someone tells him that no, the monopoly of rich countries isn't to blame this time. But even if it was, there was no need to make it all about lecturing people on COVID, except when talking about his mother.
 
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