The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 10: August 2024 -

[Lady Daly]

The stories from the BBC and the Sun don't entirely make sense to me, since the judge issued a sealed ruling and terminated the case two weeks ago. I can't tell from reading these more recent stories whether they are rehashing the order from two weeks ago or reporting on a new development.

Here's Newsweek's report from two weeks ago: Prince Harry visa drugs case closed after secret ruling

The media is still talking about the same case because Judge Nichols sealed his orders and closed the case. So...we know nothing about the determination of the case is how I interprete it.

"It is possible the orders may be at some stage be unsealed at which point it will become clearer what brought about the end of the lawsuit."

 

[shady lady]

The judge in Harry’s visa case has ruled in his favour. The case brought by the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation against the Dept of Homeland Security to try and open Harry’s application etc to the scrutiny of them and the public has been dismissed. Of course the British tabloids are not happy with this decision.

Prince Harry's US visa application will remain private, judge rules

A US think-tank had sought the release of the records after Prince Harry wrote about drug use in his memoir.

www.bbc.com

Major update on Prince Harry’s visa ‘drugs’ row, as judge makes ruling over docs

PRINCE Harry’s visa documents will not be made public despite him admitting to taking drugs in his memoir, a judge has ruled. Harry’s reference to taking cocaine, marijuana and psychedelic mushroom…

www.thesun.co.uk

No surprise there, but I think this was reported a couple of weeks ago? (as mentioned previously)

Of course, the British tabloids are the good guys when they publish a positive story about PH

No doubt tabloids in other countries have reported this too.

 

[Curryong]

The British tabloids never publish a positive story about Prince Harry if the editors can possibly help it! And they are never ‘good guys’ in a million years!

Harry on carrying on Diana's legacy: 'It's something I take seriously'

The Duke of Sussex , who recently celebrated his 40th birthday, gave the passionate address to a packed room at Halo Trust's anti-landmine event in New York.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Harry took over The (anti-landmine) Halo Trust after his mother’s death. He spoke at the event in aid of the charity in New York to a packed room.

 

[Elenath]

He is indeed not selfstyling, he simply is HRH the Duke of Sussex. However, he could have chosen NOT to use his title for business endeavours. Princess Mabel is simply ‘Mabel van Oranje’ for work, as are many other members of the Dutch RF. He made a different calculation, but it is obvious that monitizing the title is considered problematic and would be problematic in most other European monarchies too. Though at this particular event and for charities os is simply practical and gives the cause perhaps more attention than it would otherwise have had, which is good.

There is one minor difference here. Harry was born as prince Harry. Mabel was born as Mabel. She was married to a prince who has died 11 years ago. She hasn't been an active member of DRF for years. Comparing them is like comparing apples and aubergines. They're both edible, but they're not fruit.
Also, I'm quite certain if William died Catherine would still call herself the Duchess of Cambridge in these type of events. Simply because it attracts attention to the cause.

 

[Hallo girl]

There is one minor difference here. Harry was born as prince Harry. Mabel was born as Mabel. She was married to a prince who has died 11 years ago. She hasn't been an active member of DRF for years. Comparing them is like comparing apples and aubergines. They're both edible, but they're not fruit.
Also, I'm quite certain if William died Catherine would still call herself the Duchess of Cambridge in these type of events. Simply because it attracts attention to the cause.

Mabel has devoted years to various very important issues. What name she goes by is insignificant as her hard work speaks for itself.

 

[Ghost]

There is one minor difference here. Harry was born as prince Harry. Mabel was born as Mabel. She was married to a prince who has died 11 years ago. She hasn't been an active member of DRF for years. Comparing them is like comparing apples and aubergines. They're both edible, but they're not fruit.
Also, I'm quite certain if William died Catherine would still call herself the Duchess of Cambridge in these type of events. Simply because it attracts attention to the cause.

Catherine would be called The Princess of Wales in such tragic circumstances. If Charles was still King at the time of a tragedy, because if it happened after William becomes King she would become Queen Catherine.

 

[Maryrose]

IMO people are just so used to him being referred to as Prince Harry that whatever happens going forward people will think of him in that way name wise. I think his dedication and passion for these causes also speak for themselves title or no title.

 

[GondorHasNoPants]

Harry and Meghan's support of the anti-bullying initiative is to be commended, but if the cause is so dear to their hearts, why do they associate with Ellen de Generes and Chrissy Teigen? Ellen lost her TV show because of bullying claims, and Chrissy Teigen's has exhibited dreadful behaviour to numerous people over the years, including telling a 16 year old girl to 'go to sleep forever' i.e. kill herself. I feel like their commitment to the cause would be more convincing, if they had better taste in friends.

 

[HenRach Dominion]

The only people who care about Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, identifying as such are the people who continuously harp on it. To each their own, but if neither of the institutions who granted him said titles care about him using them, why should I?

 

[Maryrose]

I understand your argument Gondor and I think part of the issue is that both Ellen and Chrissy Tiegen’s bullying claims are publicized but on the other hand if a high profile person is for the environment and all the issues that are happening to the environment should they not associate with people who own and fly on private planes? Does that take away from their own dedication to environmental causes?

 

[GondorHasNoPants]

I accept it's not a black and white issue with a clear answer, and it could lead to slippery slope arguments of 'if this, then why not this as well'.

I guess I just don't understand how anyone who cares about children being bullied online to the point of suicide could associate with someone like Chrissy Teigen, who has shown herself to be a deeply unpleasant person. Private plane use is (IMHO) not in the same category as telling a 16 year old to kill herself.

 

[Maryrose]

I didn't know that about CT and that is unforgivable. I haven't seen anything about them associating with her so maybe they are distancing themselves.

 

[GondorHasNoPants]

I didn't know that about CT and that is unforgivable. I haven't seen anything about them associating with her so maybe they are distancing themselves.

She was one of the people who received a pot of Meghan's jam. Which I freely admit does not indicate they are BFFs, but they are obviously acquainted in some way.

 

[Mbruno]

IMO people are just so used to him being referred to as Prince Harry that whatever happens going forward people will think of him in that way name wise. I think his dedication and passion for these causes also speak for themselves title or no title.

His legal name in the United Kingdom is "His Royal Highness Prince Henry Charles Albert David, Duke of Sussex". We don't know what legal name he uses in the United States and probably will never know as his immigration records and other personal documents are private.

In connection with his professional life and public events in which he takes part, he seems to have adopted the style "Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex" (while Meghan goes by "Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex"). That is clearly a choice as he could have equally called himself "Harry Mountbatten-Windsor", which is a family name that is available to him when needed. Prince William used "Mountbatten-Windsor" for example in his lawsuit in France and I believe Princess Anne (somewhat surprisingly) also used it when she got married.

The fact that Harry prefers to be referred to as a Prince and a Duke in a country where those titles have no legal standing suggests to me that he deliberately wants to remain associated with his royal identity/background.

 

[Maryrose]

Speaking for myself as an American whatever their legal name in the UK is I will always call them Prince William and Prince Harry. I watched them grow up through the years and that is what I know them as.

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of Sussex spoke about the impact of social media on mental health of children during the Clinton Global Initiative Day 2 in New York City today, September 24:


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Prince Harry reveals which family members feature on his phone lock screen

The Duke of Sussex delivered a passionate speech in New York

www.hellomagazine.com

 

[Durham]

The only people who care about Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, identifying as such are the people who continuously harp on it. To each their own, but if neither of the institutions who granted him said titles care about him using them, why should I?

That’s not true.

Just to give one example, The Guardian (leftist, republican) had an article about this very thing last year Here’s a taste :

I don’t think anyone should be going around calling themselves Duke or Duchess in 2023. Unless they are a stripper or a dog

I won’t link the full article because we’re not supposed to post about it on here. But I’d be very surprised if you could find anyone at The Guardian who harps on about anything to do with the rf.

There’s plenty of reasoned & reasonable comment out there about what the issue is. Much of it from the non harpers on brigade. Not to mention posts on trf before such discussion was made against the rules.