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Princess Charlotte got a little horse shoe brooch and Meghan got some earrings from the Queen.
Princess Charlotte got a little horse shoe brooch and Meghan got some earrings from the Queen.
I’m sure little jewels were given to others, the important stuff will most likely be with CharlesThe earrings Meghan wore were gifted to her by the Queen when they did their first engagement together- Meghan shared that in an interview. Reportedly, Charlotte was also gifted her horseshoe brooch by the Queen (which makes me wonder if the Queen has gifted the other equestrian-themed jewelry seen on her youngest granddaughter and other great grandchildren)
Those are separate than inheritance stuff.
If I had to guess, I would guess that HM’s rings remain on her finger. Even ordinary women are frequently buried with their wedding and engagement rings.
I’m sure little jewels were given to others, the important stuff will most likely be with Charles
But that wish was from a time when internet didn't exists. Nowdays everyone could kwon what they already have with only check out some forums...
Could it be that there's more? I'm really sure the answer is yes.
Queen Mary’s tiara that Meghan wore existed but it’s just that no one other than Queen Mary and Princess Marina had worn it, no one knew the Greville tiara existed because no one had worn it publicly it. But of course, there’s more goodies to be seen.If "everyone knows what they have by checking some forums", how did two tiaras manage to appear in 2018 that no one even knew existed?
There is undoubtedly a substantial part of "more" we don't know.
I don’t think the foundation will be needed for now because there aren’t many tiara events unlike previous years when the Queen was young and this generation of royals don’t seem to be overly fond of jewels. But I’m sure that there are jewels earmarked for the the Queen, for the Princess of Wales we are yet to see the tiaras she picks this time round, but I wonder for Sophie. There also aren’t many working royals unlike in previous years who will be wearing royals jewels.This is almost certainly the case. Monarch-to-Monarch inheritance is by custom free from inheritance taxes. Virtually ALL of Queen Elizabeth's personal possessions, including the fabulous private jewelry collection, have been left to The King. Token pieces (valued below the tax limit) may have been left to other members of the family but the bulk of it went to Charles. This is what happened when Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother died - everything went to her eldest daughter, who then "loaned" the pieces to Charles for his wife. I hope that The King will establish some kind of jewel foundation such as the Swedes and the Dutch have, where the family pieces are available to any of the women who need them for official duty. Far too much of the British collection has been languishing in the vaults for far too long.
Princess Charlotte got a little horse shoe brooch from the Queen.
The Queen Mother got it as a gift from Queen Mary.Didn't that brooch belong to the queen mother?
The Queen Mother got it as a gift from Queen Mary.
Princess Marina? Are you sure you sure about that? I certainly never heard that she had worn the diamond bandeau which Meghan finally wore at her wedding. But jewel watchers certainly were aware of the existence of the tiara even though it hadn't been seen since Queen Mary's death. But there were also no signs that it had been sold or inherited by another descendant.Queen Mary’s tiara that Meghan wore existed but it’s just that no one other than Queen Mary and Princess Marina had worn it, no one knew the Greville tiara existed because no one had worn it publicly it. But of course, there’s more goodies to be seen.
They DO HAVE such foundation. It's the Royal Collection!I hope that The King will establish some kind of jewel foundation such as the Swedes and the Dutch have, where the family pieces are available to any of the women who need them for official duty. Far too much of the British collection has been languishing in the vaults for far too long.
The private Collection has many favorite baubles (The Girls of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen Alexandra's Diamond Kokoshnik, The Grand Duchess Vladimir, Queen Mary's Lovers Knot . . . ) that can be lent or gifted at the will of the owner. The last book on HM's jewels, including her private collection, did not identify nor make any mention of an Emerald tiara other than the Emerald version of the Vladimir which is why there were questions. I think the answer lay in the fact that HM was not overly fond of lots of gold jewellery and so it was possibly not stored with her go-to jewels or historic pieces such as the Halo Scroll.They DO HAVE such foundation. It's the Royal Collection!
All official gifts belongs to the Royal Collection. All necklaces, brooches, earrings, received during at least last 30 years, are belongs to this foundation.
The King can distributed these jewels as he wants.
You can check on Instagram, @historyofroyaljewels who has a picture of Princess Marina wearing the tiara and probably Marina was loaned the tiara for the moment she wore it not outright ownership. Yes, Mrs. Greville owned the emerald kokoshnik, but no one in the BRF wore it publicly until Eugenie got married. Plus Mrs. Greville didn’t give all her jewels to QEQM, she also gave gifts of jewels to staff and other friends.Princess Marina? Are you sure you sure about that? I certainly never heard that she had worn the diamond bandeau which Meghan finally wore at her wedding. But jewel watchers certainly were aware of the existence of the tiara even though it hadn't been seen since Queen Mary's death. But there were also no signs that it had been sold or inherited by another descendant.
As for the Boucheron emerald tiara: It was known that Mrs. Greville had owned it, an archive photo of the tiara had even been published some years before the wedding in a book on Boucheron by Vincent Meylan. As it was public knowledge that QEQM had inherited Mrs. Greville's jewels it was at least very likely that the tiara was still in the family.
After some searching, I came up with this: https://royal-magazin.de/art-deco-d...ift-from-the-duke-of-kent-to-princess-marina/ .You can check on Instagram, @historyofroyaljewels who has a picture of Princess Marina wearing the tiara and probably Marina was loaned the tiara for the moment she wore it not outright ownership. Yes, Mrs. Greville owned the emerald kokoshnik, but no one in the BRF wore it publicly until Eugenie got married. Plus Mrs. Greville didn’t give all her jewels to QEQM, she also gave gifts of jewels to staff and other friends.
After some searching, I came up with this: https://royal-magazin.de/art-deco-d...ift-from-the-duke-of-kent-to-princess-marina/ .
It seems that the bandeau was a wedding gift to Princess Marina by her husband and not a loan from Queen Mary.
It's not the same tiara.The bandeau Meghan wore was a wedding gift to Queen Mary from the County of Lincoln. They are rather similar though.
If "everyone knows what they have by checking some forums", how did two tiaras manage to appear in 2018 that no one even knew existed?
There is undoubtedly a substantial part of "more" we don't know.
After some searching, I came up with this: https://royal-magazin.de/art-deco-d...ift-from-the-duke-of-kent-to-princess-marina/ .
It seems that the bandeau was a wedding gift to Princess Marina by her husband and not a loan from Queen Mary.
The bandeau worn by Meghan was not a gift from Lincoln, the brooch at the centre of the bandeau was a gift from the people of Lincoln.
I agree the RF should set up a Foundation for the jewels, but mainly because I can see a time when the sovereign's exemption from inheritance tax may come under question. Better to ensure future ownership is clear and as free of potential tax burden as possible IMO.
I agree the RF should set up a Foundation for the jewels, but mainly because I can see a time when the sovereign's exemption from inheritance tax may come under question. Better to ensure future ownership is clear and as free of potential tax burden as possible IMO.
I agree the RF should set up a Foundation for the jewels, but mainly because I can see a time when the sovereign's exemption from inheritance tax may come under question. Better to ensure future ownership is clear and as free of potential tax burden as possible IMO.