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What is a ?senior? descendant?
I am from the first King of Wales' father's lineage according to a genealogy site. Circa 850 AD, "Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons" was my something like 37th great grandfather.
I am from the first King of Wales' father's lineage according to a genealogy site. Circa 850 AD, "Rhodri the Great, king of the Britons" was my something like 37th great grandfather.
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I found this video very interesting on Wikipedia as a source of information on royalty in Wales that never existed before. I love Wikipedia but when I read it am aware some stories within the online people's encyclopedia are specifically made by people to be pranks or to immerse themselves into moments that never happened.
So, take this video as an eye opener that all that shines ain't gold:
Wikipedia's Welsh King who Doesn't Exist
If the above doesn't open in your browser try this: Chanel source: Cambrian Chronicles search for the title Wikipedia's King who Doesn't Exist from 11 months ago. The podcaster used these sources as his references, I'm including them in case anyone studying royal Wales history needs them as research, too:
Sources for the video:
Bartrum, P.C. (1993). A Welsh Classical Dictionary : People in History and Legend up to about A.D. 1000. The National Library of Wales,
[1] pp.1-21,
[2] 20-21,
[3] 38,
[4] 216 (I call him "Deingr" due to my own stupidity, it's "Deigr", sorry).
[5] 238-239,
[6] 242,
[7] 708,
[8] 738
Guy, B. (2020). Medieval Welsh genealogy : an introduction and textual study. The Boydell Press,
[9] pp.61, 63,
[10] 77, 82, 106, 129.
[11] Matthews, J.F. (1983). Macsen, Maximus and Constantine. Welsh History Review, 11(4).
[12] Williams, T. (1848). Iolo Manuscripts: A Selection of Ancient Welsh Manuscripts. Llandovery: William Rees, p.138.
[note 1] This is slightly wrong, one other genealogy claims descent from "Teuhant" (HG 10), but HG 16 is the only one I am aware of that claims descent from a known pre-Roman figure (Caractacus), sorry.
The following were consulted, but contained no information, as mentioned:
Davies, J. (2007). A History of Wales. London: Penguin.
Maund, K. (2006). The Welsh Kings. 3rd ed. The History Press Ltd
Charles-Edwards, T.M. (2013). Wales and the Britons, 350-1064. Oxford: OUP.
So, take this video as an eye opener that all that shines ain't gold:
Wikipedia's Welsh King who Doesn't Exist
If the above doesn't open in your browser try this: Chanel source: Cambrian Chronicles search for the title Wikipedia's King who Doesn't Exist from 11 months ago. The podcaster used these sources as his references, I'm including them in case anyone studying royal Wales history needs them as research, too:
Sources for the video:
Bartrum, P.C. (1993). A Welsh Classical Dictionary : People in History and Legend up to about A.D. 1000. The National Library of Wales,
[1] pp.1-21,
[2] 20-21,
[3] 38,
[4] 216 (I call him "Deingr" due to my own stupidity, it's "Deigr", sorry).
[5] 238-239,
[6] 242,
[7] 708,
[8] 738
Guy, B. (2020). Medieval Welsh genealogy : an introduction and textual study. The Boydell Press,
[9] pp.61, 63,
[10] 77, 82, 106, 129.
[11] Matthews, J.F. (1983). Macsen, Maximus and Constantine. Welsh History Review, 11(4).
[12] Williams, T. (1848). Iolo Manuscripts: A Selection of Ancient Welsh Manuscripts. Llandovery: William Rees, p.138.
[note 1] This is slightly wrong, one other genealogy claims descent from "Teuhant" (HG 10), but HG 16 is the only one I am aware of that claims descent from a known pre-Roman figure (Caractacus), sorry.
The following were consulted, but contained no information, as mentioned:
Davies, J. (2007). A History of Wales. London: Penguin.
Maund, K. (2006). The Welsh Kings. 3rd ed. The History Press Ltd
Charles-Edwards, T.M. (2013). Wales and the Britons, 350-1064. Oxford: OUP.
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