Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

[LadyFinn]

Marius' friends who were at the cabin when he was arrested:
- 38-year-old man, previously convicted of money laundering and possession of 56 grams of cocaine. He is also charged in a new major drug case. He will shortly be serving the sentence of 11 months he received this summer.
- Man in his 30s, the son of the business leader who owns the cabin. Is unpunished in Norway. But he has dealt with the courts in a bankruptcy case and another minor civil case.
- Man in his 30s from Drammen, pictured on social media with several national football team players, a friend of a former ski star. Unpunished in Norway. Has a conviction for a minor case of drug trafficking in Sweden in 2017.
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Høiby-kompis etterforskes for ulovlig våpen etter hyttetur

Nå venter Drammen-mannen på å bli kalt inn til avhør av politiet. Han har også en ukjent narkodom fra Sverige.

www.nettavisen.no

At 15.37 on Sunday 4 August, the police contacted Marius and 33 minutes later they met him at Jansløkka school. There they arrested him and confiscated his mobile phone. But the mobile phone was in a state that made it difficult for the police to secure its contents, it was broken, unscrewed and missing a SIM card, according to VG's information.
The search warrant only applied to Marius' mobile phone, so the police didn't search Skaugum.
VG has repeatedly tried to get a comment from Marius' lawyer, Øyvind Bratlien, who hasn't responded to the inquiries. The police hasn't answered either.

Opplysninger til VG: Marius Borg Høiby leverte knust mobil uten SIM-kort til politiet

Da politiet første gang pågrep Marius Borg Høiby, varslet de ham en halvtime i forkant. Da han leverte fra seg mobiltelefonen, var den knust, avskrudd og manglet SIM-kort.

www.vg.no

Last week TV 2 wrote that the police received the go-ahead to search at Skaugum.
On Wednesday 11 September the police went to the Oslo District Court and asked for permission to search the house Marius lives. The court has refused to give the media access to its decision, but according to TV 2, the police were fully in favor. Judge Eirik Aas ruled that there were reasonable grounds to suspect Marius of violence in close relationships, and that the police could therefore search to look for evidence.
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Politiet planla razzia mot Skaugum

Politiet fikk klarsignal til å ransake på kronprinsparets eiendom. Da de skulle slå til, var Marius Borg Høiby plutselig på hyttetur.

www.tv2.no

 

[maria-olivia]

The Court knew all and is refusing . Are they above the Laws ?

 

[Muhler]

Why did Marius kill his phone?
Surely he is not involved in anything shady, right?
And surely he wish to cooporate fully with the police?
I cannot imagine there is anything on his phone that he cannot show the police...

So after a whole month, the police finally decided to get a search warrant for Skaugum.
What are the odds that they found anything really incriminating?
Like I said in a previous post, he is still being shielded.
And if I can reach that conclusion at least half of all Norwegians must think the same.

 

[LadyFinn]

Like I said in a previous post, he is still being shielded.
And if I can reach that conclusion at least half of all Norwegians must think the same.

Yes, it seems so.
But the police didn't search Skaugum, because they found out that Marius was at the cabin.

The third victim's lawyer Mette Yvonne Larsen confirms to Aftenposten that new violations of the restraining order against her client are under investigation.
Police prosecutor Andreas Kruszweski in an e-mail to Aftenposten:
- We make ongoing assessments of various information we receive.
Marius' lawyer Øyvind Bratlien comments that the aid lawyers have taken a bigger and bigger place in criminal cases. Their role is really narrow and peripheral. In general, he thinks it is reasonable if the aid lawyers show strong restraint in their dealings with the media, especially in an early phase. In the worst case, they contribute to massive prejudgment and incorrect results.

Politiet etterforsker Høiby for nye brudd på besøksforbudet mot ekskjæresten

– Vi gjør løpende vurderinger av ulik informasjon vi mottar, sier politiadvokat Andreas Kruszewski.

www.aftenposten.no

Etterforsker nye brudd på besøksforbud

Politiet etterforsker Marius Borg Høiby (27) for nye brudd på besøks- og kontaktforbudet mot ekskjæresten. Tidligere har de advart ham mot konsekvensene.

www.dagbladet.no

 

[kalnel]

Why did Marius kill his phone?
Surely he is not involved in anything shady, right?
And surely he wish to cooporate fully with the police?
I cannot imagine there is anything on his phone that he cannot show the police...

So after a whole month, the police finally decided to get a search warrant for Skaugum.
What are the odds that they found anything really incriminating?
Like I said in a previous post, he is still being shielded.
And if I can reach that conclusion at least half of all Norwegians must think the same.

I wonder if his advisors told him to destroy the phone or if he threw a temper tantrum when he heard he would be arrested and slammed it into a wall or something.

 

[Somebody]

The destruction of the phone is an interesting new detail. The SIM was removed, so it seems a deliberate act.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Haakon's relationship with Marius is again brought up by the media:

Slik er hans forhold til Marius Borg Høiby

I boken som ble gitt ut om han i fjor, forteller kronprins Haakon åpent om hvordan det er å være bonuspappa til Marius Borg Høiby.

www.klikk.no

Thank you for this link. It is the first time I have read these quotes from Crown Prince Haakon's 50th birthday book. Much like reading Princess Ingrid Alexandra's fond comments about her brother in her 18th birthday speech and interview, reading the Crown Prince's loving comments about his oldest (step)child makes one feel quite sorry for the family (and yes, I realize that both would have been expected to say something nice about Marius, but that does not imply they were obliged to say those particular nice things), particularly these comments:

"Marius also has a natural coolness that I didn't have in my youth. But what I think is finest about him is when on Christmas Eve, several years in a row, he visits a friend who needs a visit on that particular day, or when he gives a speech at a friend's wedding. He has caring in him, Marius, and in addition to all the energy, he is funny. He loves to joke with us. He caricatures us all, and he's good at it. Ingrid and Magnus love it when Marius is around. On a trip, on the slopes, in the summer, or at a dinner: the mood is lifted when he arrives."

"I have three children of whom I am incredibly proud. It is a gift to have people in your life who you really enjoy being with. We have been lucky. I am grateful to have been able to be close to them from when they were brand new, until they turn 18 and as adults."

"Mette says that I should include in the book that I am so fond of the children that it can hurt. It's a bit like that. I am so happy to be with them and I so much want them to be well. Being a parent does not make you happy all the time, but you know that you are doing something deeply meaningful."​

The parental-love-hurts comment certainly has added meaning now. And it is interesting that Ingrid Alexandra's 2022 interview named Marius's "loyalty to people" as his best trait while Haakon's 2023 interview similarly cites his caring visits to a lonely friend. One wonders where that loyalty/caring has gone lately (thinking of his "f**k the kingdom" T-shirt).

 

[hereditarytitles]

The destruction of the phone is an interesting new detail. The SIM was removed, so it seems a deliberate act.

Not knowing much about technical facts I just ask if that means that all evidence of his criminal behavior and threats to other people documented on his phone are destroyed for ever?

 

[Muhler]

I wonder if his advisors told him to destroy the phone or if he threw a temper tantrum when he heard he would be arrested and slammed it into a wall or something.

Or he just did what his criminal friends have probably done themselves several times. Marius in his own mind being so gangsta... - Here of course assuming that he - naturally - is not involved in something criminal. (Apart from domestic abuse, vandalism and theft.)
I mean for a man, whose friends don't involve him in something criminal, he sure was acting as if he himself is a hardcore criminal.
A) Calling a lawyer specializing in defending hardcore criminals, rather than his parents or the family lawyer.
B) Destroying his phone, with whatever incriminating things might potentially be on it. Even if you jump up and down on your phone, the sim-card is usually well protected and should survive. - It's also a bit provocative, I'd say. And he could after all bury his sim card or dumb the phone into a bucket of salt water, whatever. And it's hardly something and otherwise innocent and remorseful and embarrassed man would do. - And I doubt it was a fit of rage, because he did after all use the phone to call his lawyer, after being contacted by the police, probably on the same phone - and only then did he destroy it.
C) He apparently didn't say a squeak when questioned by the police. Even if advised so by the lawyer, normally a man who in a state of whatever it was, beat up and seriously scared the woman he presumably loves, would be deeply embarrassed and remorseful and would tell at least his version of what happened.

- So either Marius see himself as an outlaw and a rebel (we only need Bon Jovi with Wanted, Dead or Alive playing in the background.) and act as such, while still being pretty innocent. Outliving a kind of childish fantasy.
Or he acted like this because he genuinely felt he had something to hide.

 

[Royalty Observer]

Not knowing much about technical facts I just ask if that means that all evidence of his criminal behavior and threats to other people documented on his phone are destroyed for ever?

From a technical point of view, no, not all information is lost forever. Most of what we have on our devices is not just stored on those devices. They are stored on back-up servers owned by either the device producer or telephone/internet provider. How much and what type of information is backed up depends on multiple things (country laws, contract provisions etc). By not having access to the actual device you can still try to get some of that data from the back-up places but how easy it is .. it once again depends on multiple factors.

 

[Muhler]

Thank you for this link. It is the first time I have read these quotes from Crown Prince Haakon's 50th birthday book. Much like reading Princess Ingrid Alexandra's fond comments about her brother in her 18th birthday speech and interview, reading the Crown Prince's loving comments about his oldest (step)child makes one feel quite sorry for the family (and yes, I realize that both would have been expected to say something nice about Marius, but that does not imply they were obliged to say those particular nice things), particularly these comments:

"Marius also has a natural coolness that I didn't have in my youth. But what I think is finest about him is when on Christmas Eve, several years in a row, he visits a friend who needs a visit on that particular day, or when he gives a speech at a friend's wedding. He has caring in him, Marius, and in addition to all the energy, he is funny. He loves to joke with us. He caricatures us all, and he's good at it. Ingrid and Magnus love it when Marius is around. On a trip, on the slopes, in the summer, or at a dinner: the mood is lifted when he arrives."​

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"I have three children of whom I am incredibly proud. It is a gift to have people in your life who you really enjoy being with. We have been lucky. I am grateful to have been able to be close to them from when they were brand new, until they turn 18 and as adults."​

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"Mette says that I should include in the book that I am so fond of the children that it can hurt. It's a bit like that. I am so happy to be with them and I so much want them to be well. Being a parent does not make you happy all the time, but you know that you are doing something deeply meaningful."​

The parental-love-hurts comment certainly has added meaning now. And it is interesting that Ingrid Alexandra's 2022 interview named Marius's "loyalty to people" as his best trait while Haakon's 2023 interview similarly cites his caring visits to a lonely friend. One wonders where that loyalty/caring has gone lately (thinking of his "f**k the kingdom" T-shirt).

Haakon turned 50 in July last year.
The police made their intervention, was it in September, last year.
Marius behavior would have been more than well known last year and surely so would the friends he associate.
And when did Marius and his friends raid the CP apartment? That was last year too IIRC.
And of course Marius is full of energy. He's bloody hyped up on cocaine and what else he's taking!
- So Marius is the family clown, who is fun and sweet and it's never boring when he's around - and for that he is probably forgiven much...
These words are sure coming back to bite Haakon!

It also makes me wonder: What on earth were MM and Haakon thinking?!? I won't blame Ingrid or Magnus, because they are still teens and for them "funny Marius" would have been something they grew up with.
But surely MM and Haakon were worried about Marius? And weren't they a little worried that he might influence Ingrid and Magnus and luring them into doing something stupid, like trying drugs? Just a little bit concerned?
This leaves me with a very odd feeling.

Not knowing much about technical facts I just ask if that means that all evidence of his criminal behavior and threats to other people documented on his phone are destroyed for ever?

It isn't.
Text messages will be stored on the phone of the recipient. Calls will be stored at the phone company.

 

[kalnel]

The destruction of the phone is an interesting new detail. The SIM was removed, so it seems a deliberate act.

If he smashed it, the SIM card could have popped out. But, yes, it does seem deliberate.