Finding Freedom: Harry and Meghan and the Making of A Modern Royal Family

[Fem]

"true story" is dropped.
Morton 2.0 here we go ...
What to expect from a "Royal author" who don't use titles properly (i mean : Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex ?).

The ego of this young lad is escalating at the minute ...

Can't wait to be in August, it will be a lot of fun (and hysteria) ??

You know, I actually really can't wait to read it. I'm even going to pre-order my copy, because one thing for sure - it will be interesting. Scobie is one of the biggest supporters for the Sussexes and I'm curious how everything looks from his perspective. I also think that it will contain quite a lot of "behind the scenes" stories, which are always fun to read. Hopefully Durand will provide a nice balance to the book.

Scobie has never used proper titles, it's always been either "Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan" (really?!) or "Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" (which, I believe, would be a proper title if they were divorced - or can someone correct me on that?) and that says everything...

 

[Eskimo]

I am not going to buy the book--let's face reality: The DM is going to publish extracts with rebuttals from "sources" for every single word written in the book

 

[Osipi]

I know I'll end up buying the book. Its what I do. A day without reading a book is... um... I have no idea.

Just checked the pre-order on Amazon. Nope. Not spending that amount of money on it. I'll wait till I can get it for cheap.

 

[ACO]

I completely agree. I suppose it might do more sales now because people have more time to read, but I think this is a niche book - for only a certain segment of people (Sussex stans)

Isn't that most books? Not many folks outside royalist even know all these royal family books exists nor buy them. There will be plenty of anti Meghan books to come to satisfy the other side. In fact, pretty sure one is already coming out.

 

[fabaunty]

I have read that the book will be published by a company of the Murdoch family , if this is correct it might be that Scobie etc might find their contact limited in the future considering the Sussex"s new policy regarding the British media . Personally I have no doubt that they co-operated in the same way as the late Princess of Wales did with Morton.
However I also feel that many of the " media missteps ", in recent times would not have seemed so awful without the recent world crisis , they/ their adviser's have simply failed to keep pace , being pictured delivering supplies for a charity which had already replaced its volunteers with paid workers , it was not a good image , although I am sure these visit's were made with the best of intention's .

 

[Lumutqueen]

I have read that the book will be published by a company of the Murdoch family , if this is correct

The books being published by HarperCollins whose parent company is NewsCorp where the Murdoch Family do retain the largest voting share.

However, I don’t think Murdochs links to HarperCollins simply in way of ownership will have my effect on the publishing.

 

[Osipi]

I don't think so either. Murdoch owns a *lot* of media companies with a lot of them being based in the US. Murdoch is in no way primarily "British" media although he does have some holdings. ?

 

[Betsypaige]

I am not going to buy the book--let's face reality: The DM is going to publish extracts with rebuttals from "sources" for every single word written in the book

Neither am I. If I ever get a chance to go to a bookstore again, I’d probably glance through it to see how bad it is, lol

Isn't that most books? Not many folks outside royalist even know all these royal family books exists nor buy them. There will be plenty of anti Meghan books to come to satisfy the other side. In fact, pretty sure one is already coming out.

Yes, that’s true..

Personally, while I no longer support Meghan and I’m pissed at Harry, I’m not drooling over the idea of anti-H and M books; it never occurred to me to even be interested in them.

 

[MARG]

Diana's book was partly soucred by her friends talking to Morton..Which was why people suspected that she had more of a hand in it than she was admitting... though she denied having spoken to Morton. but people knew that her friends were not likely to have talked so frankly unless she had igiven them to the OK to speak as they did, and there was as you've said the use of family photos. And then Morton admitted that although she had not met him she had given him tapes via one of her friends...

Diana was totally and intimately involved in the Morton book and yes there were tapes. However, after her death there was also galley proofs with Diana's corrections, etc. as proof of the "accuracy" of the new issue with information omitted in the original copy I imagine to mitigate some of the shock.

However, the only real similarity between her and her son's situation seems to be the unsubstantiated allegation that his wife sicced her friends on the media to tell "her" side of the story regarding her family and the media.

Yes, that’s true..

Personally, while I no longer support Meghan and I’m pissed at Harry, I’m not drooling over the idea of anti-H and M books; it never occurred to me to even be interested in them.

I am hoping that this is like the several other "approved" biographies that are basically just a lot of boring puff interspersed with points of genuine interest and the clarification of some seemingly shocking situation which I suspect will be the result of the behaviour of H&M poor choice of staff.

However, I leave room to believe and be shocked by revelations of the behaviour of the rest of the immediate BRF. For me, the gilt is well and truly off the gingerbread and I find myself shaking my head that 2020 finds the Duke of York comfortably ensconced in the bosom of his family and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex deprived of their home at Frogmore and, for all intents and purposes, expelled from the family and living in exile. That does not sit well with me.

 

[Denville]

expelled from the family and living in Exile?? Did Charles drag them to the airport shove tehm on a plane???

 

[Betsypaige]

I am hoping that this is like the several other "approved" biographies that are basically just a lot of boring puff interspersed with points of genuine interest and the clarification of some seemingly shocking situation which I suspect will be the result of the behaviour of H&M poor choice of staff.

However, I leave room to believe and be shocked by revelations of the behaviour of the rest of the immediate BRF. For me, the gilt is well and truly off the gingerbread and I find myself shaking my head that 2020 finds the Duke of York comfortably ensconced in the bosom of his family and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex deprived of their home at Frogmore and, for all intents and purposes, expelled from the family and living in exile. That does not sit well with me.

As to your first point....yes, that's very possible. I think H and M have made many poor choices, to be honest.

I don't agree as to your second. Harry and Meghan chose to leave. No one wanted them to, but half in and half out was never going to work, and they left in a huff. That's on them. As to Andrew, the Queen was never going to exile her own son. He's been reduced to a complete non-entity - that's as much as she can do, I think.

 

[TLLK]

I was under the impression that the Sussexes made the decision of their own free will to leave the UK, travel to Canada then later to the U.S. and that they were not "expelled."

 

[Eskimo]

I was under the impression that the Sussexes made the decision of their own free will to leave the UK, travel to Canada then later to the U.S. and that they were not "expelled."

That truth does not go well with the victim narrative

 

[Denville]

As to your first point....yes, that's very possible. I think H and M have made many poor choices, to be honest.

I don't agree as to your second. Harry and Meghan chose to leave. No one wanted them to, but half in and half out was never going to work, and they left in a huff. That's on them. As to Andrew, the Queen was never going to exile her own son. He's been reduced to a complete non-entity - that's as much as she can do, I think.

Yes of course the queen was not going ot send Andrew into exile.. He continues to live in the UK, and isn't able to continue with his work..
Meghan and Harry wanted to go, they chose to leave even though the RF have offered to review their situation in a years time.. and I think Charles and the queen hoped that they will come back. Whether they would come back to full time royal work is not certain but Im sure the queen and Charles would be happy to see them coming back to England and maybe hoped that if their new life didn't work out, that is what they would do.. Quite the opposite to their being "forced into exile".. However the longer they stay away, the more likely the public is going to cool on them and say "let them stay away"...

 

[Marengo]

And on that note is it possible to return to the topic of this thread, namely the book.

Posts that are unrelated to the book will from now on be deleted from this thread. Consider this message a notification of such possible deletions.

 

[Mirabel]

I know I'll end up buying the book. Its what I do. A day without reading a book is... um... I have no idea.

Just checked the pre-order on Amazon. Nope. Not spending that amount of money on it. I'll wait till I can get it for cheap.

Why not just borrow it from the library?
E-books are readily available and have the advantage of not taking up shelf space.

Like you, I can't go a day without reading a book! I'm looking forward to the Kensington Palace book.

 

[Osipi]

I don't have a public library easily accessible where I live. For me, there's something tangible holding a book and turning pages and I prefer that over an electronic book of any kind. Besides, I have a good supplier where it costs me less to buy a book and have it show up in my mailbox than it'd cost in gas to drive to a library that would have the book. I use abebooks.com. Most are used and old library books themselves. Rarely pay over $4 USD for a book and many are hardback, first editions and some have even been signed by the author. ?

I'll wait until the Sussex book is at abebooks before I get it. I'm cheap that way.

 

[Hallo girl]

I am sure there has been more in print here than will appear in the book and we are still no further forward, let's just wait and see.
I will wait for it to hit the charity shop before I read it.

 

[Mirabel]

I felt that way until we moved, and I came to the realization that my books had taken over the house!
Donated them to the library and got library books, but now I am grateful for ebooks because I don't have to leave the house to get them.

But you are right; it is nice to hold the book!

 

[TLLK]

I love holding a book and prefer turning pages to swiping. That being said, I do appreciate the slim size of my reader when it comes to being out of the house. I can take it to a waiting room while I wait for my appointment and it's so much easier than a book when I travel.

 

[Eskimo]

I love holding a book and prefer turning pages to swiping. That being said, I do appreciate the slim size of my reader when it comes to being out of the house. I can take it to a waiting room while I wait for my appointment and it's so much easier than a book when I travel.

I give blessings for my kindle/Ipad every day. I love reading and have vision issues so had to wait until a braille edition came out. Now, I can increase the font size on my device ?

 

[Betsypaige]

My mother has a Kindle, and I get how convenient it is for travel, but I refuse to get one as my form of protest. I love holding books and feeling the pages....I love running my hands over new, smooth hardcovers ...

 

[Sun Lion]

Omid Scobie about his new book -

Beware, this is a Daily Mail link, if you wish to avoid that outlet.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...y-Finding-Freedom-Omid-Scobie-speaks-out.html

 

[Durham]

Omid Scobie about his new book -

Beware, this is a Daily Mail link, if you wish to avoid that outlet.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...y-Finding-Freedom-Omid-Scobie-speaks-out.html

I like the way you warn us

 

[Durham]

The blurb says that the couple are "determined to create a new path away from the spotlight". Don't know what the authors mean by that.

And what does "with unique access" mean?

And what is "a (modern) royal family"? There's "the royal family". It's not made up of little spin offs like a tv series.

 

[Eskimo]

He’s been “quietly beavering away at the project for 2 years”. H&M have not yet been married for two years. How did the authors know that they planned on leaving the RF two years ago?

 

[Muhler]

The blurb says that the couple are "determined to create a new path away from the spotlight". Don't know what the authors mean by that.

And what does "with unique access" mean?

And what is "a (modern) royal family"? There's "the royal family". It's not made up of little spin offs like a tv series.

"Unique access" = they are my friends.

"A modern royal family" = they approach their roles as I like it.

He’s been “quietly beavering away at the project for 2 years”. H&M have not yet been married for two years. How did the authors know that they planned on leaving the RF two years ago?

Do be fair, just because there are holes a supertanker can sail through, there is no need to point them out.

- The more I read about this book the less serious it seems to be, also to those who are sympathetic to H&M, and who would presumably prefer a more in depth and serious approach, because there are plenty of issues that can be addressed and plenty of questions that could be answered.
A sycophantic glossing-over won't benefit H&M.

 

[Curryong]

He didn't and has never said he did. Omid said he began the project 'about two years ago'. In other words, with the Sussexes' wedding coming up he (and presumably Carolyn) planned to write a biography on the royal couple and IMO were going to publish it in 2019.

However, things kept happening re the Sussexes (including the tabloids' attacks, the move from KP to Frogmore, rumoured feuds etc) and it snowballed. The Coronavirus added an extra complication. And so, this book will be published with the Sussexes in LA, something I do not believe anybody, including the authors or their subjects thought would happen in May 2018.

 

[Pranter]

I love my kindle, I have a lot of books on it. However there are certain authors I 'collect' so when they have a new book I get the actual book. I use the Kindle Unlimited program to get free books for most everything else. Now and then I do buy a book from Kindle but it's not common.

I did order the Sussex book via Kindle. There are some good biographies about Royals on the Unlimited program.

LaRae

 

[Claire]

The blurb says that the couple are "determined to create a new path away from the spotlight". Don't know what the authors mean by that.

And what does "with unique access" mean?

And what is "a (modern) royal family"? There's "the royal family". It's not made up of little spin offs like a tv series.

Hmm - Maybe he will explain how they are attempting to do that while exercising their right to publicity on their own terms. Absolutely nothing this couple has done says they want privacy.
And the path - well that seems to be the path of the Obamas, Bill and Melinda Gates, Oprah and Gloop - that is new about it. It is not even new to other Royals.