Ennyllorac said:No matter what she wears in jewellry she will never have class.
I used to be underwhelmed by this tiara until I saw saw close-up pics of it when she wore it on a visit to France some years ago. The upsweep diamond bars on each side of the central ruby motif give it "lift". I think it is one of those pieces that need to be seen in the right light to "catch the glint" and the detail.iowabelle said:The Burmese ruby tiara would be an interesting choice; it is large although not very attractive IMO.
iowabelle said:The Burmese ruby tiara would be an interesting choice; it is large although not very attractive IMO. (Of course, I don't have any rubies and no diamonds bigger than a chip!)
Warren said:if not there are so many mystery tiaras in the vaults that The Queen would not have to resort to recycling the Queen Mother's tiaras. I think we can be confident there are plenty from which to choose!
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iowabelle said:About the tiaras -- do you think that Charles is going to give Camilla a new one then? We've seen a fair amount of digging into the Queen Mother's jewel box so fair. (I think it's a fair assumption that if the Queen Mother left these items to Charles, she knew who would wear them eventually.)
As an aside, I have never seen the Nizam of Hyderabad Tiara, from which the Burmese Ruby Tiara is made, in a colour pic, so it's hard to know what has been lost.
Elspeth said:I've seen a couple of photos of it. I preferred it to the ruby one, which strikes me as rather heavy-looking (design-wise, I mean).
Here:
http://www.royal-magazin.de/england/queen/nizam-of-hyderabad.htm
Hi Wymanda, no idea what the original souce was. Perhaps because the ruby rose motifs on both tiaras appear very similar the assumption they were one and the same was made. I've seen it a few times, including in a P de V, and repeated it without researching.wymanda said:In "Tiaras, A history of Splendour" Geoffrey Munn gives the impression that this tiara still exists. Does anyone know the original source that tells us it was broken up to fashion the Burmese Ruby tiara?????
iowabelle said:I think that Charles and Camilla were guests of the Queen Mother at Birkhall.
And even if Charles took Camilla to Birkhall while the Queen Mother was absent, I am sure he had her permission to take her there.
branchg said:Charles had permission to use Birkhall with Camilla, but never when the Queen Mother was in residence. The Queen Mother never approved of Camilla and refused to receive her, despite her great love for her grandson. That was the end of that.
I was recently reading a biography of Queen Mary (the present Queen's grandmother) and wondered, is the tiara that she wore to the Indian Durbar still in existence? I can't recall the present Queen ever wearing it?
Queen Mary's Delhi Durbar crown is still in existence. It latterly belonged to Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, but is now in the private collection of The Queen. The crown has been altered somewhat, as it no longer contains the Cullinan III and IV diamonds.
wymanda said:Just read the following on "Royal Insight" regarding the Delhi Durbah Tiara.
Maybe this means that this lovely tiara will be available for Camilla?????????
branchg said:It's rather old and the style is very high on the head, similar to a crown, rather than a tiara. I doubt it will be seen again on someone's head.
Also, the tiara has only been worn by a Queen Consort, which means it will not be seen on Camilla while she is still Duchess of Cornwall. That would be inappropriate in the royal tradition.
wymanda said:Just read the following on "Royal Insight" regarding the Delhi Durbah Tiara.
Maybe this means that this lovely tiara will be available for Camilla?????????
I can picture the headline now: "Camilla Wears Crown of Indian Empress!"Elspeth said:It's possible that... she might wear it rather than the George IV circlet for events like the State Opening of Parliament. I really doubt that, with its history, it'll be available to her during the Queen's reign.
Elspeth said:it's just that it was made for the Durbar in place of the coronation crown, which couldn't be taken out of the UK, which means that it's a more "official" piece than most of the other tiaras.
branchg said:Usually a Queen Consort wears the circlet created for their Crown to the State Opening of Parliament, although technically they are entitled to wear the George IV State Diadem as well. If Camilla becomes Princess Consort, rather than Queen Consort, I doubt she will wear anything but her own tiara to the State Opening.