Diana/Charles/Camilla's Relationships Part 2

[corazon]

camilla have defenct too and never talk about this, because i dont konw her like person, so if I don't know anout something I don't speak.

 

[selrahc4]

corazon,
I have looked back through this thread at your posts, and I can not find any in which you called Charles a monster.

I think what may have inspired the most recent exhanges is your following post

When diana said that charles was with camilla (in '80), the people said ''diana is inestable'' the time said she was right (charles ever was with camilla).

Others have simply been trying to substantiate that there WAS a time (however few the years were) when both Charles and Diana were committed to their marriage and were trying to make it work and that Charles was not always with Camilla.

 

[Saragli]

chasrles and camilla must marry in the '70 , i am totally sure about that.

I have never had trouble understanding you Corazon but I am having a little trouble hear. First of all the didnt marry in the 70's and didnt need to. They had a passionate and loving relationship that ended. Camilla moved on and got married. The marriage didnt work out after they had children and they agreed to an open marriage. Charles moved on and had many girlfriends after Camilla before meeting Diana. They did not marry Diana and could not. He would have to face the fury and wrath of the RF. The wrath of the Queen Mother, Duke of Edinburough, and Lord Mountbatten is enough to scare me to do anything they wanted. They relationship ended and didnt work out. Later on in life in the mid 80's they found comfort in each other and fell in a deep passionate love again.

 

[corazon]

corazon,
I have looked back through this thread at your posts, and I can not find any in which you called Charles a monster.

I think what may have inspired the most recent exhanges is your following post





Others have simply been trying to substantiate that there WAS a time (however few the years were) when both Charles and Diana were committed to their marriage and were trying to make it work and that Charles was not always with Camilla.

Exactly, I never said charles is a monster, and you're right was a time (short) of happines, when diana was pregnant with harry the cuple was REALLY happy, the hell come on later.

 

[Saragli]

I didnt say Corazon called Charles a monster I said that the posts made it seem like Corazon treated him that way. Never believing he was good and anything that bad said about him is the truth. It was a figure of speech on my part.

 

[Saragli]

Exactly, I never said charles is a monster, and you're right was a time (short) of happines, when diana was pregnant with harry the cuple was REALLY happy, the hell come on later.

Then why did you so diehardingly insist that Charles loved Camilla before and after the marraige. That Charles slept with Camilla the night before the wedding and that Charles continued his affair right after the marriage too. Be more clear and constant in your posts.

 

[corazon]

I have never had trouble understanding you Corazon but I am having a little trouble hear. First of all the didnt marry in the 70's and didnt need to. They had a passionate and loving relationship that ended. Camilla moved on and got married. The marriage didnt work out after they had children and they agreed to an open marriage. Charles moved on and had many girlfriends after Camilla before meeting Diana. They did not marry Diana and could not. He would have to face the fury and wrath of the RF. The wrath of the Queen Mother, Duke of Edinburough, and Lord Mountbatten is enough to scare me to do anything they wanted. They relationship ended and didnt work out. Later on in life in the mid 80's they found comfort in each other and fell in a deep passionate love again.

because if married in the 70 many things never had happened, no diana, no andrew parker bowles, no scandals, no pain for charles diana camilla laura tom william harry and the monarchy.
Is very simple. Later they become lovers, divorces etc .......

 

[selrahc4]

Exactly, I never said charles is a monster, and you're right was a time (short) of happines, when diana was pregnant with harry the cuple was REALLY happy, the hell come on later.

Then, corazon, you should not have said "Charles ever was with Camilla". In a phrase like that the word "ever" means "always".

 

[corazon]

Then why did you so diehardingly insist that Charles loved Camilla before and after the marraige. That Charles slept with Camilla the night before the wedding and that Charles continued his affair right after the marriage too. Be more clear and constant in your posts.

I am constant, charles was with camilla before and later diana, but like I said before the happiness of charles of diana was in 1984 when diana was pregnant (a few months).

 

[corazon]

Then, corazon, you should not have said "Charles ever was with Camilla". In a phrase like that the word "ever" means "always".

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exactly, my english is terrible. thanks

 

[Saragli]

because if married in the 70 many things never had happened, no diana, no andrew parker bowles, no scandals, no pain for charles diana camilla laura tom william harry and the monarchy.
Is very simple. Later they become lovers, divorces etc .......

They didnt marry cause they knew the marriage would never work. Camilla knew herself very well. She was an indepedent women. She knew she could not have handled the RF and the royal protocals back in the day. She knew she would explode and want her freedom more than charles after marring. Charles knew that his family would never accept Camilla as his wife back in the day. Things were different back then. Thankfully, things have changed and they can get married now. They are much more mature and they dont have as many restraints anymore.

no diana, no andrew parker bowles, no scandals, no pain for charles diana camilla laura tom william harry and the monarchy.

Charles and Camilla werent the only ones to cause them pain. Diana caused much more pain to the monarchy. She could have kept her trap shut and her children would not have had to go through that and the monarchy would not have been ridiculed. The kids may have suffered somewhat but they have grown up into wonderfull accepting kids who dont creat drama and have fun.

 

[Saragli]

I am constant, charles was with camilla before and later diana, but like I said before the happiness of charles of diana was in 1984 when diana was pregnant (a few months).

Charles and Diana were happy from before their marriage and througout their marriage until the mid 80's. Not just for a few months but for years they tried to commit and be happy. Camilla was before Diana a long with many other women and Camilla came after Diana. That is the truth and I dont see were your trying to get at by pointing that out.

 

[corazon]

so, why charles marry with a women tha he not leved? I s avery simple question, and diana caused pain to me monarchy, maybe be true but is true to diana have a future king for the monarchy.

 

[corazon]

''Charles knew that his family would never accept Camilla as his wife back in the day.'' why charles don't leave all for love?

 

[corazon]

and married camilla, have many childen and live inpeace an happines?

 

[Saragli]

so, why charles marry with a women tha he not leved? I s avery simple question, and diana caused pain to me monarchy, maybe be true but is true to diana have a future king for the monarchy.

Charles did marry the women he loved. Even you said they were happy. They were in love. That love brought two children into this world. Diana didnt bring a future king into the monarchy by herself she needed Charles for that too. They both brought a future King into the monarchy. That was one of their jobs and they did it well.

 

[corazon]

I said because he don't leave all for her real love, marriage with the women he love in the 70 or 80, have children and live in peace

 

[selrahc4]

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exactly, my english is terrible. thanks

Not terrible, corazon. I think you're very gutsy to try to present your views (whether I agree with them or not) even though you think your English is terrible. Missing the special nuances of a language, though, can certainly lead to misundertanding!

 

[tiaraprin]

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exactly, my english is terrible. thanks

Corazon, I speak Spanish. If you want me to translate important posts for you into English I would be happy to.

 

[corazon]

Not terrible, corazon. I think you're very gutsy to try to present your views (whether I agree with them or not) even though you think your English is terrible. Missing the special nuances of a language, though, can certainly lead to misundertanding!

thanks, I try do my best

 

[corazon]

Corazon, I speak Spanish. If you want me to translate important posts for you into English I would be happy to.

THANKS GOD! you ara argentina?

 

[Saragli]

''Charles knew that his family would never accept Camilla as his wife back in the day.'' why charles don't leave all for love?and married camilla, have many childen and live inpeace an happines?

Because Corazon, It was Charles duty to be the heir. After spending so much time and effort into developing the job of Prince of Wales into a well rounded role why would he give up his future. The monarchy was in a safe place and did not need the scandel of the heir renouncing his rights. He also loved his brothers and would never give the burden to them. Andrew was not raised to handle it and he would never forgive charles. It is the same with william and harry. William has promised Harry that he will never renounce his rights or abdicate and pass over the burden. He would have needed the Queen and Parliment i think to approve his renunciation and they wouldnt let that happen. He couldnt just run off back then. It was Camilla who did not want to marry charles. Remember that. Charles moved on after Camilla. It was after the marriage fell apart that he went back to Camilla.

 

[tiaraprin]

THANKS GOD! you ara argentina?

No soy de Argentina, soy Norteamericana. Soy una maestra de idiomas en Los Estados Unidos.

Translation: I am not from Argentina; I am from North America. I am a language teacher in the United States.

 

[corazon]

EDWARD VIII was king, but for him was more important the lovo of his live, THAT was real love.

 

[Saragli]

Your english isnt horrible Corazon. It is understandable but sometimes small mistakes change the sentence completely. English is very hard. Tiarapin is very smart and reliable. Use her knowledge if you have too. I like debating with you. Its fun to me. I hate for laungage to stop it.

 

[corazon]

No soy de Argentina, soy Norteamericana. Soy una maestra de idiomas en Los Estados Unidos.

Translation: I am not from Argentina; I am from North America. I am a language teacher in the United States.

I am argentina, I love your and regisna post , is good find people that defend diana like me.

 

[Saragli]

EDWARD VIII was king, but for him was more important the lovo of his live, THAT was real love.

The difference is that Edward did not want to be King. Charles did. Charles is an optimist and wants to use his position to help the world. Edward just wanted to be with his love and live a quite, privaleged life. He didnt care if he dropped the burden on his brother.

 

[corazon]

Your english isnt horrible Corazon. It is understandable but sometimes small mistakes change the sentence completely. English is very hard. Tiarapin is very smart and reliable. Use her knowledge if you have too. I like debating with you. Its fun to me. I hate for laungage to stop it.

you have yours ideas abuot some things and I have mi own ideas, the world is that way. I respect you.

 

[corazon]

charles want all in his life, the women, the throne but, I insist, many things not had happend

 

[Saragli]

Tiarapin, Corazon, and Regina. The DianaTrio. Modernday superheros outthere to defend Diana and do good in the world. LOl. Sorry I am wee bit tired and my mind is going places and wondering off.