Diana/Charles/Camilla's Relationships Part 2

[corazon]

Hewitt said their affair started in 1982, according to Clifford's book.

Clifford's book in based a hewitt's words during hypnosis, hewitt write to book with all lies (princess in love) nobody can believe one word of this guy, all the british media know the person class who he is

 

[corazon]

the only hewitt want is money.

 

[BeatrixFan]

Right, so we believe Hewitt when he's being nice about Diana and we reject his source when he's being nasty?

 

[dakodas]

Right, so we believe Hewitt when he's being nice about Diana and we reject his source when he's being nasty?

Who is "we"?

 

[BeatrixFan]

"We" is the general audience here who are preached to. Are we, the assembled throng supposed to believe Hewitt when he's saying how wonderful Diana was but disregard his statements on Diana when they aren't as complimentary.

 

[Zonk]

I take anything Hewitt says with a grain of salt. Any time ANYONE writes a story for financial gain, I wonder if he is just telling me what he thinks I/the masses/whoever wants to know.

 

[Skydragon]

Clifford's book in based a hewitt's words during hypnosis, hewitt write to book with all lies (princess in love) nobody can believe one word of this guy, all the british media know the person class who he is

No Cliffords book is based on what Hewitt told him some years ago. What has the British medias thoughts on Hewitt got to do with anything.
Most people keep an open mind. Anything you consider derogatory, whether it is the truth or not, seems to be labeled out of hand 'lies'

 

[Skydragon]

william not need more education, he is educated now, in the future only he know what will do.

You implied that the way William is now is all due to Diana, when in fact it has been Charles and Camilla who have given him a stable, loving environment these past years.

 

[Skydragon]

No, I said charles back with camilla in 1984 after harri'birth and diana start her affair with hewitt in 1986.

And I was pointing out that Charles and Diana said their affairs started in 1986, unless they were both lying!

 

[corazon]

hewitt said than he was Harry's father! and harry ever look so much like charles, hewitt said many (not all) lies, and i said charles with camilla in 1984 y diana star with hewitt in 1986.
and I not said willis is like he is for diana, he is like he is for himself, not for diana, not for charles, not for camiila or for the queen.
he is like he is.

 

[corazon]

and last, william live this years in eton, go to chile, in st.andrews and soon in the army.

 

[corazon]

you, we, all, avery person believe in who creates to believe, i don't want change your minds and you can't charge my mind, evrey person think like want think. but EVER with the true.

 

[Regina]

the only hewitt want is money.

That's correct, corazon! Hewitt was one of many who wanted to take profit from Diana. It's a pitty she never found her true love, a man who could understand , love, help and give her a new Light to her life!

Charles destroyed her young life full of dreams (because she was a big dreamer), but he also destroyed (IMO) her hope for future. She was insecure, and after Charles she was even more insecure. Everytime he had a person, problaby she was thinking "Maybe he likes another one too... maybe he doesn't love me at all..." and of course these kind of distrusting can destroy a relationship.

 

[corazon]

hewitt still live with the money he did with diana's books. I have to never work to after leave the army.

 

[Regina]

i Love The Word The Dianatrio

I like it too, thanks princejohnny for your praise

I think we now know more about the mechanics of prat falls than anyone would ever have expected from these Forums.

True!

hewitt still live with the money he did with diana's books. I have to never work to after leave the army.

He still lives with the money from Diana's books, and from the letters he sold.

 

[corazon]

I like it too, thanks princejohnny for your praise True! He still lives with the money from Diana's books, and from the letters he sold!

I forget the latters!

 

[ysbel]

Hi, I'm back from a wonderful trip to upper New York State.

Lots of interesting things to read here since I left.

I'm really interested in Stephen Barry's book because that is probably the closest to an unbiased source that's out there. He did not seem crazy about Diana but on the other hand he was a bit upset that Charles let him go after years of service.

So my guess is that he was pretty unhappy with both of them when he published the book and there was no way he could foretell in 1982 how the marriage would end.

He was a bit cynical, quite a change from the gushing reports of Charles' and Diana's marriage but he was also specific in stating what kind of girl Charles was attracted to and Diana was that type of girl. He didn't say Charles was smart in his choices though. I remember he was also a bit critical of royals in general in that book.

He of all people would have to know whether Charles was seeing Camilla at the beginning of the marriage. He did leave some things out of the book, he could have left out the affair between Charles and Camilla but this was a man who Charles had just fired so one wonders how loyal he felt towards Charles. If you read the book, you get the sense that he doesn't like royals at all.

 

[Charlotte1]

I'm really interested in Stephen Barry's book because that is probably the closest to an unbiased source that's out there.

Stephen Barry wrote very positively about Diana, there's nothing in his book to say he didn't have a high opinion of her. Charles didn't 'let him go' either, SB chose to leave,( a few years after the book was published he died of AIDS. It could be that he already had some health issues when he decided to end his employ with the BRF. He wrote his book very quickly and made money so he could have a good time while he was able to) I've got his book and it's not negative at all, he does point out exactly how pampered the royals are but he's not critical of individual royals. SB refers to rumours of Charles and Camilla's relationship but dismisses them ( also to Charles' relationship with Lady Tynan)

 

[Charlotte1]

I forget the latters!

He tried to sell Diana's letters but no one was prepared to buy them. James Hewitt lives on a small army pension, he lost all the money he made from the books he co-operated on in various failed business ventures. He's a sad case as he lives off his notoriety doing trashy TV shows, to make money.

 

[Charlotte1]

william not need more education, he is educated now, in the future only he know what will do.

William is just beginning his royal education, he has a long, long, long way to go before he's educated. Yes he finished high school (Eton) and university with a degree in geography, not constitutional law or economics or history or land management. All areas he will need to learn about, that's the reason behind the internships he's been doing. Working on a farm, in the banking industry and he's yet to spend time with a mountain rescue squad.

Look at the European heirs, they've spent years learning their royal roles. CP Victoria is 28 and she's studying again at the moment as well as having spent time working in the Swedish embassy in Beijing recently. William is 23, he's starting out in his life and he won't know what to do without having the kind of preparation and time to grow and mature that the European heirs have had.

He's still a 'royal in training' who has preformed very few royal duties ( at his request, as he stated in his last university interview. He didn't want to begin royal duties too early as he will be doing them for the rest of his life)

 

[Skydragon]

hewitt said than he was Harry's father! and harry ever look so much like charles, hewitt said many (not all) lies, and i said charles with camilla in 1984 y diana star with hewitt in 1986.
and I not said willis is like he is for diana, he is like he is for himself, not for diana, not for charles, not for camiila or for the queen.
he is like he is.

Hewitt has never claimed to be Harry's father, where did you get that from?
Diana and Hewitt admitted to 1986, Charles admitted he started seeing Camilla in 1986.
You inferred that William was educated solely by Diana, when as everyone knows he was at school and with nannies most of his young life. His formative years were spent also at school and with Charles and Camilla!

 

[Skydragon]

hewitt still live with the money he did with diana's books. I have to never work to after leave the army.

He has a rather substantial Army Officer pension!

 

[Idriel]

Hewitt has never claimed to be Harry's father, where did you get that from?

I remember years ago that during an interview with a British rag, Hewitt did that claim. Not saying that 'I am Harry's dad' but suggesting that not very subtly. I do not recall his exact words, but he did produce some Diana's letters out of his hat where she wrote something like 'deep in my heart I always knew Harry was yours' or something like that (??). I clearly remember the coverage it was given in France and seeing a shot of the letter. Sorry I can't be more precise, I don't keep that kind of archives.
And his army pension certainly not cover his jet-set/play-boy wannabe lifestyle. He has been bankrupted few times it seems (??).

 

[Skydragon]

I remember years ago that during an interview with a British rag, Hewitt did that claim. Not saying that 'I am Harry's dad' but suggesting that not very subtly. I do not recall his exact words, but he did produce some Diana's letters out of his hat where she wrote something like 'deep in my heart I always knew Harry was yours' or something like that (??). I clearly remember the coverage it was given in France and seeing a shot of the letter. Sorry I can't be more precise, I don't keep that kind of archives.
And his army pension certainly not cover his jet-set/play-boy wannabe lifestyle. He has been bankrupted few times it seems (??).

I can't find anything in the various search engines where Hewitt does anything but deny the rumours, inc

http://theinternetforum.co.uk/rf/harry5.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2273498.stm

Although we are now led to believe that Hewitt did meet Diana in 1981/82 and that some sources, inc Clifford say that their affair started around 81/82, I can't find anything where he says or infers that he is Harry's father, apart from this.
http://www.royalarchive.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1256&Itemid=2
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:James_Hewitt"

Army pensions can be quite substantial and afford a luxurious lifestyle. I don't think being declared bankrupt can affect your pension but, I have to admit, I don't know.

 

[ysbel]

I think Hewitt played both sides of the fence regarding Harry's paternity. Its obvious he was milking his association for all its worth so a lot of what he says is not trustworthy.

However, some things like the fact that the Queen sympathized with Diana but refused to step in do seem true. I think some of his less scandalous statements that have been reinforced by other sources can be reliably believed.

It's not so easy as saying he is a total liar or everything he says is the truth.

 

[Skydragon]

And his army pension certainly not cover his jet-set/play-boy wannabe lifestyle. He has been bankrupted few times it seems (??).

Small pension indeed but with this sort of tax liability, he must have money coming in from somewhere else.

http://www.royalarchive.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1383&Itemid=2

 

[Charlotte1]

Small pension indeed but with this sort of tax liability, he must have money coming in from somewhere else.

http://www.royalarchive.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1383&Itemid=2

The money he has coming in is through selling his notoriety. In the claims he makes and sells. He also was offering his services as an escort, last year I remember reading in a British newspaper. A woman journalist paid for his services and wrote an article. Didn't he do a reality TV program as well? For while too, he was supported by an older and wealthy woman he had a relationship with, she eventually broke it off. I just think he's a sad case.

 

[una]

Also read Stephen Barry's book "Royal Service"
.....Also Stephen woke Charles the day of his wedding, no Camilla anywhere near him so that's a false story too.
.... The cuflink story also has no credibilty as Charles' staff would have been the ones to order them and buy them, it didn't happen.

I'd like to read this too if I could get hold of it. Do you know why Barry stopped working for Charles--did Diana have anything to do with it?
Charles denies sleeping with Camilla before the eve of the wedding, but not having a body in the bed in the morning is not proof of it.
The cufflinks were thought to be a present from Camilla, not bought by Charles' staff. If you mean the bracelet bought for Camilla, that is in Dimbleby's book.

 

[ysbel]

I found a website that brokers sales for used and out of print books. It has some copies of Stephen Barry's book available.

http://www.biblio.com/isbn/0025074903.html

I just read it in the bookshop when it first came out and would like to re-read it.

Charlotte1 its very interesting you say that he quit of his own accord. You may be right but I distinctly remember him being muscled out of the valet position. I'd have to re-read the book though to be sure.

 

[Skydragon]

The money he has coming in is through selling his notoriety. In the claims he makes and sells. He also was offering his services as an escort, last year I remember reading in a British newspaper. A woman journalist paid for his services and wrote an article. Didn't he do a reality TV program as well? For while too, he was supported by an older and wealthy woman he had a relationship with, she eventually broke it off. I just think he's a sad case.

Even the papers can't say for certain where he gets his money, it is believed to be from investments. I would hardly think he earns enough for his appearances to warrant a £250,000 tax bill.
Which newspaper or reporter would that be?
I can't find anything on him being supported by an older woman, what was her name and where did you get that from?