Denmark : Abdication & Accession Day - January 14, 2024


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Frederik being seated with his back towards his mother when she left looked a bit awkward but him fully turning around would also have been somewhat complicated (after his mother wanted him to take the seat).

There was an awkwardness to it but it was kind of endearing and the prime minister stated it was QMII's explicit wish that she wanted to see Frederik seated at the head of the table. Her father never got to see her seated as the sovereign at a state council and she wanted to give herself that little gift by watching her son take her seat.
 
I agree, Christian and Isabella handled everything very professionally and caringly (Christian towards his grandmother and Isabella was clearly checking in on her younger siblings during the balcony appearance).

Frederik being seated with his back towards his mother when she left looked a bit awkward but him fully turning around would also have been somewhat complicated (after his mother wanted him to take the seat).

It was symbolic that Frederik didn't turn around and look back as the last reign ended and the new reign begins, thus looking forward. I can see why Margrethe explicitly stated she wanted to see Frederik seated at the head of the table, as it's a gift that a monarch can see the proclamation of the new monarch which many don't see. She was immensely proud.

Christian and Isabella were magnificent. I loved the moment Christian handed his grandmother her walking stick; he was a boy who was listening to his grandmother
 
Christian and Margrethe seems to have a very close bond… I noticed it also in the days after Prince Henrik died and at his funeral… He was very attentive towards her already then and always kept himself very close to his grandmother… It has always felt very natural between them i think…
 
Without knowing much about the Danish military, I am assuming from the excerpt above that Denmark is similar to Australia and Canada, where the Chief of the Defense Staff (in Denmark, the "Chief of Defence" using British spelling) is the only active military officer who holds what in the United States is called a "four-star rank", while the commanders for example of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force, who serve under the CDS, hold the equivalent to a three-star (maybe two-star?) rank only. Maybe Muhler can confirm that later.

Note that this is not the case in the UK, where both the CDS, the Vice CDS and the 3 service chiefs (plus one or two commanders like the Commander UK Strategic Command and the Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe) now hold (the equivalent to) four-star ranks while the King actually holds higher "five-star" honorary ranks (in the UK, Field Marshal in the Army, Admiral of the Fleet, and Marshal of the Royal Air Force). The British CDS also used to hold a five-star rank, but was downgraded to four-stars in the late 1990s, I think.

Note 1: in connection with the UK, I am using the terminology "xx-star" just to provide an international comparison based on US ranks, but, strictly speaking, British general officers do not wear "star" insignia.

Note 2: In the United States, of course, there is an insanely high number of four-star general officers by international standards (I think, currently 44), but the US military is huge with multiple combatant commands and headquarters.

EDIT: I just checked on the Wikipedia and it looks like 3-star ranks like Lieutenant General or Vice Admiral, which, in Australia or Canada, are held both by the Vice CDS/CDF and the service chiefs, are reserved in Denmark to the Vice Chief of Defence only, while the service chiefs hold only two-star ranks (Major General or Rear Admiral).

Apart from the Monarch, the Defense Chief is the only full (four star) general in DK.
One star = brigadier. = Commands a brigade.
Two stars = major general. - Commands a division.
Three stars = lieutenant general. - Commands a corps.
Four stars = full general. = Commands an army.
Five stars, which some countries still use and which was certainly widely used during WWII = generaloberst (there is no equivalent to that in English. A generaloberst commands several armies. That means that in Continental Europe generals Eisenhower and McArthur would have had the rank of generaloberst.)
 
Princess Isabella wore red. Princess Josephine wore blue.
The colors they wear represent the colors of the Danish flag.

Blue is not a color of the Danish flag. I think you are confusing it with the (similar) Norwegian flag.
 
Blue is not a color of the Danish flag. I think you are confusing it with the (similar) Norwegian flag.
But it is a colour of the Faroese flag. And the Faroese islands are (still) part of the Kingdom of Denmark.
 
A crazy night followed the celebrations, whoop whoop!
The fireworks didn't end but started another gathering of friends
strangers and happy danes-thanks Daisy.
But how much I hate these Germàn tv magazines, back here they started the day again, still and renewed speculating about Fred's marriage and if Mary's smile was real or fake.....
I wonder or almost expect Margeret to vanish for a few months, maybe too early for South France but maybe travelling a bit? To give Frederik space and time to settle.
I hope her health will not decrease fast but that she can enjoy a few years in peace&pension;)
And I hope Joakim stays abroad no matter what cliffs his mariiage will take or how his career develops.
Curious about Christians next steps, may his reign be far away and him have time to enjoy the next 5 years completing his education.

Well, have to get back to daily life , sunshine for everybody
 
Frederick was emotional throughout the day - I am glad for him that he assumed the throne under happy circumstances rather than the traditional way following his mother's death.

Mary was class as always - she was born for this role
 
I read somewhere that she recently got braces on her teeth and may still be self-conscious about them.

Same situation with Leonor, princess of Asturias during her recent ceremony. Since she has braces installed in her late teens and seems extremely aware of them, so tries to avoid smiling in public when cameras are around. When both princesses get the hardware removed off their teeth, we will see them to relax more.
I never had braces, but I imagine for a teenager it has to be both uncomfortable and a bit annoying if they smile and notice people just stare at them.
 
I assume Benedikte was with her sister at Amalienborg. By that time Margrethe was either returning or had just returned from Christiansborg, so it makes sense for her sister to join her instead of being with her nephew.

And as to why they were not on the balcony; the focus was on the new king's family. Both Joachim and Benedikte are no longer children of the monarch but children of a previous monarch - and in that way are not fully comparable to Isabella, Vincent and Josephine. I don't recall any other royal family that had a balcony appearance of a new monarch after an abdication including siblings of the monarch (or previous monarchs). The previous monarch might be present (for example in the Netherlands) but the focus is on the new monarch's core family: monarch, spouse and children.

Thank you for the additional context!

I hope Princess Benedikte was able to give her sister some support and companionship at a clearly emotional time.

I personally do not think it is equitable or practical to make a large distinction between younger children of the current monarch and younger children of past monarchs in monarchies which function by the rule of primogeniture, so I would have the same opinion about the other royal families' balcony appearances, but that is probably a discussion for another thread.
 
Another nice video from yesterday:





Thank you for the video.


Question for our knowledgeable posters, at the beginning of the video there's a close up of one of the Palace guards. He has what appears to be a shoulder bag as part of his uniform. Does anyone know what is likely to be in it?
 
I loved that kiss moment for the ages.

And I have to say I expected the media to bring in their negativity when Queen Mary turned her head to her children inside as KingFredX grabbed her by waist, like out of a romance novel cover, to give her a kiss on the balcony moment that went around the world.

And she even wore a white dress from her wedding gown designer, too. This was like a new vows ceremony for the world to watch and we loved it.
 
Thank you for the video.


Question for our knowledgeable posters, at the beginning of the video there's a close up of one of the Palace guards. He has what appears to be a shoulder bag as part of his uniform. Does anyone know what is likely to be in it?
Grenades.

The regiment is a grenadier regiment.
 
Grenades.

The regiment is a grenadier regiment.

:ohmy: like real ones!?! :ohmy: I hope they are empty shells. I also got my attention on that bag he carries but my first thought was his coffee thermos and a sandwich, and maybe some tourist map and brochures if asked on things to do in the capital.
 
:ohmy: like real ones!?! :ohmy: I hope they are empty shells. I also got my attention on that bag he carries but my first thought was his coffee thermos and a sandwich, and maybe some tourist map and brochures if asked on things to do in the capital.

They're Grenadier soldiers and the Regiments names is derived from the word grenade!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadier

The bag is probably empty but just part of the uniform.
 
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They're Grenadier soldiers and the Regiments names is derived from the word grenade!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadier

The bag is probably empty but just part of the uniform.

Thanks, I found a picture and the grenadier bag would make a nice tablet bag for me! ? Kidding aside, the initials will need to be updated in the future, wonder if they are gold and if it gets recycled.

https://www.dreamstime.com/royal-gu...uard-duty-guarding-amalienborg-image161956218
 
The royal website has translated its announcements about the Council of State and the transfer of the royal banners on abdication day.


https://www.kongehuset.dk/en/news/council-of-state


Council of State

In the process of the succession of the throne, a Council of State will be held in the Council of State Room at Christiansborg Palace with the participation of HM The Queen, HRH The Crown Prince and the government. The secretary of the Council of State and HRH Prince Christian will also be present.

During the Council of State meeting, The Queen will sign her abdication declaration. At that point, The Crown Prince assumes the throne as HM King Frederik X. At the same time, HRH Prince Christian becomes Crown Prince.

HM Queen Margrethe will then leave the Council of State Room, and The King will take the seat at the head of the table. HRH Crown Prince Christian, who as an adult heir to the throne will have a permanent seat in the Council of State, will take the seat to the right of The King.

After the Council of State comes the proclamation, when the new sovereign is proclaimed by the Prime Minister from the balcony of Christiansborg Palace.​


https://www.kongehuset.dk/en/news/the-transfer-of-the-royal-flags


The transfer of the royal flags

The transfer of the royal flags from the departing monarch’s residence to the new royal residence at Amalienborg is a solemn and symbolic indication of the succession of the throne. The flags are always placed in the reigning monarch’s palace.

After the proclamation from the balcony at Christianborg Palace on 14 January, the flags will be taken from HM Queen Margrethe’s palace (Christian IX’s Palace) to HM King Frederik X’s residence palace (Frederik VIII’s Palace) at Amalienborg at 17:00. Precisely 52 years ago, on 14 January 1972, the flags were brought the opposite way from Frederik VIII’s Palace, where Frederik IX and Queen Ingrid resided, to Christian IX's Palace.

The flags are carried over Amalienborg Palace Square by a flag command, which consists of the Commander of The Royal Life Guard’s Sentry Company, the Second-in-Command of the Sentry Company, three commissioned or non-commissioned officers as flag bearers as well as six on-duty guards as sentries. The gala flag is carried in front.

Only three flags are transferred, while one gala flag remains with the King’s Guard that has been formed.

When the Commander of the Sentry Company and the flag bearers have arrived at the Flag Room in Christian IX’s Palace, the Commander will request The Queen’s permission to transfer the flags. The three flag bearers will individually salute the flags and then each take their flag. The gala flag is taken first.

When the flag command has carried the flags over the palace square to the new royal residence, Frederik VIII’s Palace, the Commander of the Sentry Company will salute The King and ask permission to transfer the flags. The flags are handed over to The King, who places them in the flag supports that have been set up in the Marble Hall, which hereafter will be designated the Flag Room.

After delivery of the flags, the Commander of the Sentry Company leads the flag command back to Christian IX’s Palace and, from there, to the sentries’ quarters.

As part of the ceremony surrounding the succession of the throne, the symbols of service are handed over. This means that the Lord Chamberlain’s baton and the Master of Ceremonies’ baton will be handed over by Queen Margrethe’s new Chief of Court and the Master of Ceremonies to the new Lord Chamberlain as a symbol that the functions are now transferred to the new Court.



They have also released information about the replacement of Margrethe II's monogram with that of Frederik X:

https://www.kongehuset.dk/en/news/hm-the-kings-monogram

https://www.kongehuset.dk/nyheder/h-m-kongens-navnetraek


HM The King’s monogram

The royal monogram was specified by His Majesty The King in the Council of State on 14 January 2024. The royal monogram consists of two mirrored Fs, between which the Roman numeral X (10) is placed, the whole crowned by the royal crown. The monogram was chosen by The King and was designed and drawn by the royal armorist Ronny Skov Andersen with digital assistance from designer Stefan Lægaard.

In the future, The King’s monogram will replace HM Queen Margrethe’s in many places. The royal monogram is used, among other places, on royal ordinances, on the Life Guard’s sentry boxes and shoulder straps, on the Guard Hussar Regiment’s sabretaches and shabracks (saddle cloths) and in many other connections.

The process of replacing the royal monogram will likely extend over a long period of time.


The press release includes an image of the new monogram.


The transcript of King Frederik IX's speech from the balcony is now up on the website, too.

https://www.kongehuset.dk/taler/h-m-kongens-proklamationstale
 
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Grenades.

The regiment is a grenadier regiment.




Thank you. Wow! Having not served in any military, I would have not guessed grenades. An extra pair of gloves yes, but not grenades.
 
:ohmy: like real ones!?! :ohmy: I hope they are empty shells. I also got my attention on that bag he carries but my first thought was his coffee thermos and a sandwich, and maybe some tourist map and brochures if asked on things to do in the capital.

They're Grenadier soldiers and the Regiments names is derived from the word grenade!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadier

The bag is probably empty but just part of the uniform.

Thanks, I found a picture and the grenadier bag would make a nice tablet bag for me! ? Kidding aside, the initials will need to be updated in the future, wonder if they are gold and if it gets recycled.

https://www.dreamstime.com/royal-gu...uard-duty-guarding-amalienborg-image161956218

Thank you. Wow! Having not served in any military, I would have not guessed grenades. An extra pair of gloves yes, but not grenades.

Well, iron-bombs the size of a fist actually. - You lit the fuse and then threw them at the enemy.
Grenadiers were assault troops initially, hence the need to use bombs to clear rooms, casemates and corridors.
Grenadiers consisted in the beginning of the tallest, strongest, more mature and most reliable soldiers in a regiment. - And some would say: Those who had more brawn than brain, because it was pretty dangerous to be a grenadier as you would often lead an attack against a fortified position and as such suffer heavy casualties.
Later on it became common to amalgamate grenadier companies from several regiments into battalions and from then on the step to creating dedicated grenadier regiments was logic. That happened during the Napoleonic Wars.
The Royal Lifeguard Regiment was thus turned into grenadiers at some point, I don't know when.

The irony is that at that point (around 1800) grenadiers rarely if ever used bombs. They were by this stage heavy infantry of the line. Consisting of big, mature and brave veterans who could be relied upon to press home an attack or stand their ground almost no matter what.

Grenadiers are easy to recognize: They typically wore a bearskin cap, a short infantry saber and their bag that was supposed to contain bombs, but contained all sorts of stuff instead.
The Royal Lifeguard Regiment's bomb-bags are a source of pride. Its very old and stiff leather polished and polished and polished by countless guardsmen for many decades until you can see your reflection in the leather.

Other famous grenadier regiments include: The Old Guard of the time of Napoleon, the Grenadier Guards from UK, and the original infantry regiments of the French Foreign Legion.
Sweden too has a contingent of grenadiers among the regiments guarding the royal palaces, although the most well known are light dragoons.

Norway has a Jaeger regiments as their guards.
Spain has lancers, so has Morocco.
Russia use line infantry as their Kremlin Guard.
USA use Marines, albeit in a much more recent uniform.
France use cuirassiers. So does UK at the Horse Guards.
I must confess ignorance in regards to what type of regiments Belgium and the Netherlands use.
 
The ongoing discussion about braces has been removed as off-topic for this thread. Thank you for your understanding!
 
Some behind photos have been shared by the DRF today.
Fantastic!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2IStOVN_7f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://content.invisioncic.com/r38...mb.jpeg.1465f0b21bfd9513085c15e44fe132b4.jpeg

The crowds!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2Ik_aCN0Yb/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The President of the United States message for the abdication and succession
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...enmark-and-the-succession-of-king-frederik-x/

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...marys-soeskende-udsender-ord-efter-tronskifte
Mary's sister Jane on behalf of her siblings released a statement too.
"Throughout the last twenty years, we have seen up close our sister and her husband create a beautiful family and a loving home. Their rock-solid dedication to their duties, both in Denmark and outside the country's borders, is truly admirable.

We know our sister will continue to show the same strength, kindness and grace in her new role at her husband, King Frederik X's side.

Today, Denmark is her home and the love and support that the Danish people have shown her is proof of her character and we are deeply grateful for it,"*
 
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According to the comments and based on mobile-data, some 174.000 were standing at Christiansborg.
Some 52.000 at a major square in Copenhagen, that the carriage and car passed.
And some 73.000 at Amalieborg.
And altogether some 3 million watched it on TV.
DK at present has a population of 5.9 million.
People along the route seems not to have been counted.
 
A small but sweet moment between Frederik and Isabella on the balcony of Christianborg.
 
According to the comments and based on mobile-data, some 174.000 were standing at Christiansborg.
Some 52.000 at a major square in Copenhagen, that the carriage and car passed.
And some 73.000 at Amalieborg.
And altogether some 3 million watched it on TV.
DK at present has a population of 5.9 million.
People along the route seems not to have been counted.

I wonder if the people on Amagertorv, the streets leading up to it and in all the small streets between Strøget and Holmens kirke were included in those numbers. From what I've seen online they were packed with people who couldn't get to Christiansborg. Walking around the city centre after the royals had left the castle it felt as many more.
 
The President of the United States message for the abdication and succession
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...enmark-and-the-succession-of-king-frederik-x/

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongeli...marys-soeskende-udsender-ord-efter-tronskifte
Mary's sister Jane on behalf of her siblings released a statement too.
"Throughout the last twenty years, we have seen up close our sister and her husband create a beautiful family and a loving home. Their rock-solid dedication to their duties, both in Denmark and outside the country's borders, is truly admirable.

We know our sister will continue to show the same strength, kindness and grace in her new role at her husband, King Frederik X's side.

Today, Denmark is her home and the love and support that the Danish people have shown her is proof of her character and we are deeply grateful for it,"*

That's a wonderful statement, showing the closeness of the Donaldson's to Frederik and the family. I love how Jane refers to Mary as "our sister" and not "Queen Mary", giving it the personal touch.

Would be funny King Frederik and Queen Mary pay a visit to Australia (albeit official or private) before King Charles :whistling:;)
 
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It only appeared awkward because she wasn't expecting it, not because she's repulsed by him. Judging by how genuine her smile was, not only during the kiss but after it, her initial surprise melted away rather quickly.

People are always looking for angles to start nonsense. I mean, there are already people who think QMargrethe abdicated to keep Mary from divorcing him, which is about the largest load of twaddle I've heard in a long time.
I too have caught the "Royal Media Experts" holding forth on QM's decision being driven by Fredrik's love life and her intention to clip his wings. I was gob-smacked! Queen Margrethe has always been known as a steady hand whose perspicacity was unequalled. Such a kneejerk in response to a couple of photos that in themselves were innocuous, but with the media scripting the prologue and postscript describing "probably" salacious goings on? Not happening!

I once caught a sound bite from a body language expert, well respected and well published. He was pointing out the difference between between real and fake smiles. Real smiles make the face crinkle at the eyes and and create bags under the eyes . . . . . both Frederik and Mary could have packed for a weekend with those eyes when they finally left the balcony! ?
 
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