Charles III: Coronation Information and Musings - Part 1

[Stefan]

Thanks, and I agree, it does look better with uniform.

But then he can not wear the Garter.

 

[An Ard Ri]

The official website:

https://coronation.gov.uk/about-the-coronation/

I was wondering if we would see the Coronation Street parties and hopefully the weather will be good for them!

 

[Stefan]

The official website:

https://coronation.gov.uk/about-the-coronation/

What i miss on this Website is background Information for example about the Service and all the tradtions around it.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

King Charles III coronation souvenirs
http://www.countryliving.com/uk/news/g42392052/king-charles-coronation-souvenirs

 

[tommy100]

Love the official playlist!

 

[Blog Real]

The official website:

https://coronation.gov.uk/about-the-coronation/

I think they should put information on the traditions and ceremonies of the coronations of British monarchs on the website.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

The Robes and Coronets of the Nobility at the British Coronation

 

[Kobenhavn]

I think they should put information on the traditions and ceremonies of the coronations of British monarchs on the website.

Exactly. Despite the sombre occasion, I absolutely loved watching events surrounding QEII's funeral as there were heaps of information about marches, music, lore, uniforms etc. Knowing the traditions made the experience more meaningful and impactful.

I get that they want this coronation to be more toned down due to economic crisis in the UK, war in Europe, and the after effects of the pandemic but so far I feel like it is way too toned down, it is almost boring.

 

[Denville]

certainly it should be toned down, and probalby its the last coronation in the UK

 

[Mirabel]

I don't see the purpose of having it toned down, if it is supposed to attract tourists.
And there's always an economic crisis; I remember news outlets saying William's wedding should be toned down to reflect that.

If the pageantry is eliminated. what's the point?

 

[Lilyflo]

The Coronation Logo has just been revealed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64599029

 

[Mbruno]

The Coronation Logo has just been revealed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64599029

It would have been nice if, in addition to flowers representing the countries in the United Kingdom, other elements representing the Commonwealth realms had also been added. After all, Charles III is expected to be crowned King of all the realms, not only the UK.

 

[Hans-Rickard]

I love it. Modern looking and (still) beautiful

 

[rominet09]

Beautiful, a good choice.

 

[W.Y.CII]

That's beautiful and well designed!

It would have been nice if, in addition to flowers representing the countries in the United Kingdom, other elements representing the Commonwealth realms had also been added. After all, Charles III is expected to be crowned King of all the realms, not only the UK.

That's what came to my mind too but then I realised using >50 kinds of flowers it would look overloaded and too complicated as a logo. And to my knowledge seems that there isn't one significant symbol to represent the whole commonwealth that could integrate into the logo. I wish they'll use the symbols related to commonwealth in other materials and designs though.

 

[Elly C]

Yes, I think it would have been too busy to incorporate elements from each Commonwealth country. I’m sure it would have been considered. Is there a recognised symbol of the Commonwealth ?

 

[Denville]

I don't see the purpose of having it toned down, if it is supposed to attract tourists.
And there's always an economic crisis; I remember news outlets saying William's wedding should be toned down to reflect that.

If the pageantry is eliminated. what's the point?

The point is that Charles is crowned as king. It will be a ceremony wtih a certain amount of pageantry but given C's age and the financail problems, nobody wants a big ceremony, remotlely like the coronation in 1953.

 

[Lilyflo]

That's what came to my mind too but then I realised using >50 kinds of flowers it would look overloaded and too complicated as a logo. And to my knowledge seems that there isn't one significant symbol to represent the whole commonwealth that could integrate into the logo. I wish they'll use the symbols related to commonwealth in other materials and designs though.

There are only 15 commonwealth realms so it might have been possible to include a flower for each of those countries.

 

[W.Y.CII]

Oops I miss up commonwealth realms and commonwealth nations. Yet from design perspective 15+ elements are still too much for a logo if you ask me.

 

[Heavs]

I think if there was a design that could realistically incorporate 15 different flowers in a small logo that would be amazing. However it seems like this logo is doing all it can to make sure all the "home nations" are equally represented, which in itself is not easy.

 

[muriel]

There are only 15 commonwealth realms so it might have been possible to include a flower for each of those countries.

I can see why the Commonwealth realms may be excluded from this logo. Some of the Caribbean ones are close to leaving, and there is little point in engaging at this stage. Those that want to go are always welcome to. So for the coronation, stay focussed, stay domestic and carry on.

I am sure Aus, NZ and Canada will soon have visits by the King and Queen.

 

[Skippy]

The point is that Charles is crowned as king. It will be a ceremony wtih a certain amount of pageantry but given C's age and the financail problems, nobody wants a big ceremony, remotlely like the coronation in 1953.

You should really quit this. You are not speaking for everybody. Of course some people do want a big ceremony. That you don't know anyone who does (as I think is the case) is another story.

 

[JR76]

The point is that Charles is crowned as king. It will be a ceremony wtih a certain amount of pageantry but given C's age and the financail problems, nobody wants a big ceremony, remotlely like the coronation in 1953.

I know many that "wants a big ceremony, remotlely like the coronation in 1953."

 

[wbenson]

Using 1953 as the baseline is guaranteed to cause disappointment, I think. Things would have been very different in 1973, let alone 2023.

 

[Denville]

I know many that "wants a big ceremony, remotlely like the coronation in 1953."

Do they live in the UK?

 

[Denville]

You should really quit this. You are not speaking for everybody. Of course some people do want a big ceremony. That you don't know anyone who does (as I think is the case) is another story.

I doubt if anyone wants as big a ceremony as was the case in 1953.. and I'd say that most British people, would like a reasonably ceremonious event, but much shorter, less grandiose and with a lot less invitees than is being suggested by soem people..... We have to pay for the ceremony, and I think that Charles is very conscious of the fact that Britain is in hard times, and that he himself is not a young man nor is the queen, and he will settle for a much more modest ceremony.

 

[Lilyflo]

A recent poll for The Spectator:

There has been a very public debate, played out in the press, about the size and scale of Charles’ coronation: should it be a stripped down affair, or a grand one on the scale of his mother’s back in 1953? The public, it seems, overwhelmingly support the former, with 59 per cent of voters hoping that the coronation of King Charles III is a ‘less grand, more modest occasion.’ Sadly, for traditionalists, just six per cent oppose this view while only four per cent ‘strongly’ oppose it.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/poll-public-want-a-modest-coronation/

 

[Lilyflo]

I can see why the Commonwealth realms may be excluded from this logo. Some of the Caribbean ones are close to leaving, and there is little point in engaging at this stage.

I agree and I also think some diplomatic communication with the realms might have taken place re: the logo. There's room for more flowers in addition to the four UK ones but that doesn't mean they have to be there.

 

[Skippy]

I doubt if anyone wants as big a ceremony as was the case in 1953.. and I'd say that most British people, would like a reasonably ceremonious event, but much shorter, less grandiose and with a lot less invitees than is being suggested by soem people..... We have to pay for the ceremony, and I think that Charles is very conscious of the fact that Britain is in hard times, and that he himself is not a young man nor is the queen, and he will settle for a much more modest ceremony.

This already sounds more nuanced. You cannot compare 1953 with now, but the way you always state your opinion makes it sound as if he should make-do with a ceremony comparable to a trip to the register office. And that is what I oppose.

Second bolded part is obvious, but among the same taxpayers as you are also those who do want a big ceremony.

AKA it isn't as black and white as you present it.

 

[Denville]

This already sounds more nuanced. You cannot compare 1953 with now, but the way you always state your opinion makes it sound as if he should make-do with a ceremony comparable to a trip to the register office. And that is what I oppose.

It would not bother me if he did indeed give up on a coronation and have a simple investiture as many king have been doing now for a while. I live in teh UK and as such, I dont want to pay out for a large ceremony.