William and Kate: engagement and relationship rumours and musings 2005 - 2008


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Ohmigosh! You mean we have to endure all this speculation and twittering for at least another twelve months? :ROFLMAO:

I say make the engagement announcement Christmas Eve and get a quickie wedding out of the way early in the New Year - with all that staff they should be able to put something together for around Valentines Day - and then everyone can focus on the celebrations for the oldies for the rest of the year. :lol:

Only kidding. :flowers: But definitely feeling a bit wicked.
 
Full of Christmas spirit perhaps! :lol: Perhaps they will elope and then let the press know!:brows:
 
Skydragon said:
Perhaps they will elope and then let the press know!:brows:
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Is Gretna Green still an option for British citizens? ;)

IMHO, William has learned from the desaster of his parent's marriage. The basic problem between Charles and Diana was that she had a very romantic and self-centered ideal of a marriage and Charles could not fulfull his part in it because he didn't even understand what it was that Diana was searching for.
The famous remark about "Three in a marriage" show IMHO that Diana did till the end have no understanding that she didn't marry a man and this man alone but with him his position and his entourage.

The research about the infamous note in the Paget-report tells at least me that Diana had in 1995 no more contacts to Charles' inner circle, so wasn't informed what was going on in his private life. She probably never had these close contacts and on feeling that was unhappy and felt unloved.

William seems to have learned from this. He seems to include Catherine as much as he can (hence his secretary as escort on his passing-out parade), while OTOH this young lady has to fight for herself pretty much of her time. Which is an excellent training because William will need a partner and not a spoiled princess. IMHO.
 
I do not believe a marriage will happen in the imminent future, if at all. While Kate certainly seems to have been a stabilizing and supportive force in William's life, he knows better than anyone the consequences of making the wrong choice. I am not saying Kate is bad, but it is too early to tell at this point.

William must demonstrate to The Queen his commitment to duty and that includes finishing his military service, taking on public duties and learning about the constitutional monarchy. As a future king, his responsibilities to the Crown must come first.
 
Why do you think marriage would interfere with that?
 
branchg said:
William must demonstrate to The Queen his commitment to duty and that includes finishing his military service, taking on public duties and learning about the constitutional monarchy. As a future king, his responsibilities to the Crown must come first.
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Yes, I wonder if he will do the 49+ weeks officer training at BRNC and Cranwell. These are surely things he will need to complete before releasing the hounds of hell on any girl!
 
Elspeth said:
Why do you think marriage would interfere with that?
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The pressure and attention from the media would be a huge distraction for him and Kate. The comparisons to Diana, what her fashion sense is, her charities and public duties. The focus would be on the wrong things, instead of William having the space to develop his character and duties.

It's too early for that in my opinion.
 
branchg said:
While Kate certainly seems to have been a stabilizing and supportive force in William's life, he knows better than anyone the consequences of making the wrong choice.
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no one can possibly know if they're making the right or wrong choice until "death do they part".
 
Isn't there a grand house (mansion, really) under construction for William somewhere out towards the Welsh border. Why? To me, there's only one answer -- that's where he will bring his bride, and Kate seems to be the only contender. :rolleyes:
 
I thought the grand house was for Charles and Camilla? Oh I am confused.
 
There is a house being constructed for William on the Highgrove estate that was planned for some time. It's not an indication of a marital home for him and Kate.
 
Caswallan said:
I thought the grand house was for Charles and Camilla? Oh I am confused.
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What house? Camilla retained her private estate and Charles already has Highgrove. In addition, he took over Birkhall and Clarence House after the death of The Queen Mother and this is on top of his apartments and offices at St. James Palace.
 
branchg said:
What house? Camilla retained her private estate and Charles already has Highgrove. In addition, he took over Birkhall and Clarence House after the death of The Queen Mother and this is on top of his apartments and offices at St. James Palace.
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There is also the house and farm they have purchased in Wales.
 
So much for those rumours...

So, the crescendo of speculation and breathless anticipation of Kate/Catherine appearing at Church at Sandringham, together with the imminent engagement announcement have... come to nought.

How soon before it all hypes up again for another (anti-) climax? :D
 
A dictators behaving badly digression...

With more substance than a failed imminent-engagement rumour, but with no relevance whatsoever to the thread topic...

Since the subject was raised at post #29 and discussed at #32-38, and for those interested in the appalling Ceausescus of Romania, Larzen has quoted from a new biography of King Harald V in the Royal Library thread:

The King also talks about state visits, the most difficult one was the one from Ceausescu. It all started badly, the dictator had told the palace he would like a white Mercedes as a welcoming gift so when he got a book with pictures of the western fjords he was not amused. He also wanted to stop the tram outside the palace because he found it so noisy, and all the staff had to walk without shoes because he could not stand the noise of shoes on the wooden floors. He and his wife left one day early.
 
As to the engagement rumors, we're a patient "lot," Warren.

(I'm not English/British so the quotation marks made me feel less phony by using that term.):lol:
 
Warren said:
So, the crescendo of speculation and breathless anticipation of Kate/Catherine appearing at Church at Sandringham, together with the imminent engagement announcement have... come to nought.

How soon before it all hypes up again for another (anti-) climax? :D
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Well, there is always the new year! :lol:
 
well the rumour about xmas at sandringham was renegged back a couple of weeks ago so we knew that wasn't going to happen but the engagement rummour....i feel bad for all those that waited with baited breath.
 
Dont feel bad for me I Still see a Wedding on the Cards :)
 
crisscross1 said:
I just heard on the news that Kate spent a night at Buckingham Palace over the weekend after celebratory drinks on Friday night. Apparently Kate is the first non spouse to stay at the palace suggesting that an engagement announcement may be imminent.
We will wait and see???
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Not so. Sophie Rhys Jones lived at the Palace long before her engagement to Prince Edward was announced.
 
I think that an engagement is not eminent, but very probably. I'm not looking for an announcement prior to the end of 2007, maybe not until 2008. I do believe that marriage would not interfere with William's ability to perform his duties, though. Many officers are married and perform their duties perfectly well.
I don't believe that the two things are mutually exclusive. I am very interested in what 2007 will bring in terms of the relationship between Prince William and Catherine, though. I'm hoping that we will see their relationship unfold even more over time. There have been many small giveaways, the main one being Prince William's stability with Kate. He has remained constant with the young lady for quite some time now. It could be that he has found the right girl for him.
 
Yes. That girl with three heads, a hunchback, one leg and breath that smells like Roseanne Barr's armpits got married last summer apparantly.
 
Laviollette said:
Is she his only prospect? Is she the best he can do?
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I don't think Catherine is William's only prospect, but it's obvious that right now she is most certainly the person he prefers. Who he wants should count for something, I would think. Both princes are free to date whomever they choose, and for now it seems that Prince William has chosen to date Catherine just as Prince Harry has chosen to date Chelsy.


BTW, BeatrixFan, you are hilarious!!! :lol:
 
Laviollette said:
Is she his only prospect? Is she the best he can do?
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What do you mean by 'best'? That seems to me as if you have some criteria to determine a person's worth with regard to marrying William.

The only criteria, I believe she needs to fulfil, is that he loves her and wants her to share his life with him. If she agrees then she is the 'best' he can do.

A pity that his father couldn't get that say in his choice but it is clear, at least to me, that Charles is insisting that his sons be able to choose from the entire world and not have a criteria placed upon their choice as he had, with such disastrous consequences for himself, his wife and the entire Royal Family.
 
I haven't heard of William being with anyone else. I think he is married to Kate in his heart already, but don't want the pomp and circumstance of a full blown wedding just yet. Especially, if the British government pays for some of it and there are problems with the Blair government and Iraq War situation.
 
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