Royal-Royal Marriages Today

[maria-olivia]

The actual most glorious Wedding are
Princess Astrid of Belgium who married HIH Archduke Lorenz of Habsbourg Este
Princess Marie Astrid of Luxembourg who married HIH Archduke Christian of Habsbourg
Princess Margaretha who married HSH Prince Nicolas of Liechtenstein
Prince Alois of Liechtenstein who married HRH Princess Sophie of Baviera

 

[Somebody]

What might be a good match for Rafael, prince of Gran-Pára (born 24 April 1986). As the expected future head of the Brazilian imperial family he is expected to marry 'equally'. Any Roman Catholic royal princesses in their thirties that could be a good match?

Princess Luisa Maria of Belgium, archduchess of Austria-Este, is 9 years his junior (born 11 October 1995) but might be a good match and would fit all criteria.

 

[Stefan]

What might be a good match for Rafael, prince of Gran-Pára (born 24 April 1986). As the expected future head of the Brazilian imperial family he is expected to marry 'equally'. Any Roman Catholic royal princesses in their thirties that could be a good match?

Princess Luisa Maria of Belgium, archduchess of Austria-Este, is 9 years his junior (born 11 October 1995) but might be a good match and would fit all criteria.

One of the daughters of Fürst Erich and Fürstin Mathilde of Waldburg-Zeil would be good matches and not be so much younger. And as his mother of from an not even mediatized Family they would be aproved as equally.

 

[Adda]

Princess Luisa Maria of Belgium and the Duke of Württemberg would be a dream match (on paper, ofc).

 

[JR76]

What might be a good match for Rafael, prince of Gran-Pára (born 24 April 1986). As the expected future head of the Brazilian imperial family he is expected to marry 'equally'. Any Roman Catholic royal princesses in their thirties that could be a good match?

Princess Luisa Maria of Belgium, archduchess of Austria-Este, is 9 years his junior (born 11 October 1995) but might be a good match and would fit all criteria.

Is he still in a relationship with the Italian girl?

 

[duke of poliganc]

Amalia also seems to mingle within some of the Spanish and German nobility so she might find a suitable spouse among them.

 

[Blog Real]

A marriage that I think would be interesting would be between Leonor, Princess of Asturias and Prince Beltran of Bulgaria (son of Prince Kardam and Miriam Ungria), as it would unite the deposed Royal House of Bulgaria with the Spanish Royal House. And we know they know each other, as he was present at Leonor's 18th birthday party.

 

[Iza Borowiec]

Is he still in a relationship with the Italian girl?

Not sure, but he was a guest (he and his sister Gabriela) at Margherita's brother Guy wedding to Princess Xenia of Croy last month

 

[Linda_26]

Princess Luisa Maria of Belgium and the Duke of Württemberg would be a dream match (on paper, ofc).

They would certainly be, also age-wise.
Luisa has had a relationship for a few years with Prince Karl-Ilias of Auersperg-Breunner, but I read rumours that they split (not sure if it's true, but they do seem to be living in different cities nowadays: Karl in London and Luisa in Brussels)

 

[An Ard Ri]

The actual most glorious Wedding are
Princess Astrid of Belgium who married HIH Archduke Lorenz of Habsbourg Este
Princess Marie Astrid of Luxembourg who married HIH Archduke Christian of Habsbourg
Princess Margaretha who married HSH Prince Nicolas of Liechtenstein
Prince Alois of Liechtenstein who married HRH Princess Sophie of Baviera

Also
HRH Prince Guillaume of Luxembourg married Donna Sibilla Sandra Weiller in 1994

 

[Stefan]

Also
HRH Prince Guillaume of Luxembourg married Donna Sibilla Sandra Weiller in 1994

But then she isn't royal or noble herself.

 

[An Ard Ri]

But then she isn't royal or noble herself.

I included her as she's a granddaughter of the Infanta Beatriz of Spain and the great grand daughter of Alfonso XIII.

 

[Stefan]

I would bet that both Elizabeth and Leonor would marry someone from the nobility in their own countries the pool of aristocrats in Belgium and Spain is huge and Elizabeth seems to mingle within the nobility circles as we saw her recently attend a wedding in Belgium!s for Elisabeth very well possible, but i have my doubts for Leonor as the spanish RF doesn't mingle much with the spanish nobles.

for Elisabeth very well possible, but i have my doubts for Leonor as the spanish RF doesn't mingle much with the spanish nobles.

 

[An Ard Ri]

for Elisabeth very well possible, but i have my doubts for Leonor as the spanish RF doesn't mingle much with the spanish nobles.

King Felipe, his mother and sisters all still attends the some of the weddings of the nobility ,perhaps Leonor might follow her father's example?

 

[Moonmaiden23]

But then she isn't royal or noble herself.

Sibilla Weiller is/was as aristocratic as can be without having a title.

 

[Stefan]

Sibilla Weiller is/was as aristocratic as can be without having a title.

Her mother is aristocratic so she is descending from aristocrats through her. But we are discussing royal/royal marriages here and from that she is far away, despite being the great-granddaughter of a spanish King.

 

[duke of poliganc]

Her mother is aristocratic so she is descending from aristocrats through her. But we are discussing royal/royal marriages here and from that she is far away, despite being the great-granddaughter of a spanish King.

I don’t know her mother was an Italian princess or just Donna in the Italian nobility but I think sibilla’s lineage could be compared to that of Sarah, Duchess of York as both of them are descendants of the nobility in The female line through their mother’s but aren’t titled themselves, although bounce points for Sibilla for being a great granddaughter of a king!

An identical situation for Sibilla would also be Samuel Chatto as a great grandson of a king through female line but untitled!

 

[Linda_26]

I don’t know her mother was an Italian princess or just Donna in the Italian nobility

Sibilla's mother is (she's still alive, as far as I know) Donna Olimpia Torlonia di Civitella-Cesi

 

[duke of poliganc]

Sibilla's mother is (she's still alive, as far as I know) Donna Olimpia Torlonia di Civitella-Cesi

Sometimes I saw people referring to her mother as Princess Olimpia Torlonia and sometimes as just Donna Olimpia, similar to Paula of Belgium.

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[Linda_26]

Sometimes I saw people referring to her mother as Princess Olimpia Torlonia and sometimes as just Donna Olimpia, similar to Paula of Belgium.

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The correct title is Donna, both for Olimpia and Paola (not Paula). Typically, in Italian princely families only the wife of the Prince (holder of the title) was a Princess, while a daughter was "Donna". Another example that comes to mind is the late Marella Agnelli (Gianni Agnelli's wife; she also happened to be an aunt to Lili Rosboch, Prince Amedeo of Belgium's wife), who was the daughter of Prince Filippo Caracciolo ( 8th Prince of Castagneto), and she was known prior to her marriage as Donna Marella Caracciolo di Castagneto

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Sometimes I saw people referring to her mother as Princess Olimpia Torlonia and sometimes as just Donna Olimpia, similar to Paula of Belgium.

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Italian noble families frequently assumed unofficial titles for younger sons and daughters even if legally speaking the title was restricted to the eldest son. Thus, the future Queen Paola was technically only a member of a princely family and not a princess herself prior to the abolition of the Italian nobility in 1948, but she was sometimes unofficially known as Princess Paola Ruffo di Calabria.

Her mother is aristocratic so she is descending from aristocrats through her. But we are discussing royal/royal marriages here and from that she is far away, despite being the great-granddaughter of a spanish King.

Given that marriages to (upper-class) commoners with no particular royal or noble ancestry is now the norm for European royalty, though, I think it is reasonable to also classify marriages to nobles and other near-royals as exceptional in the same context.

 

[Somebody]

What might be a good match for Rafael, prince of Gran-Pára (born 24 April 1986). As the expected future head of the Brazilian imperial family he is expected to marry 'equally'. Any Roman Catholic royal princesses in their thirties that could be a good match?

Princess Luisa Maria of Belgium, archduchess of Austria-Este, is 9 years his junior (born 11 October 1995) but might be a good match and would fit all criteria.

And what about his younger sister, for her to remain in line to the (defunct) throne, she would also need to marry equally. Any Roman-Catholic princes in their late 30's (or early 40's) left? She herself was born in 1989.

Would the (four) sons of Luis María Gonzaga de Casanova-Cárdenas y Barón, Duke of Sántangelo, Grande of Spain, and Archduchess Monica of Habsburg/Austria qualify as 'equal'?
* Baltasar Carlos Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Vallfogona de Balaguer, 17 de agosto de 1981).
* Gabriel María Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Vallfogona de Balaguer, 21 de marzo de 1983)
* Rafael María Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Castillo de La Rápita, Vallfogona de Balaguer, 11 de agosto de 1986)
* Santiago Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Castillo de La Rápita, Vallfogona de Balaguer, 26 de abril de 1993)

 

[Muhler]

It would IMO not be far out if some of the Danish children fell in love and married a member of a noble family here, say the Ahlefeldts, Laurvigs or Scheel. They are all old noble and very wealthy families many of whom have been personal friends and even Ladies-in-Waiting for the DRF for at least a couple of generations now.
And given personal friendships, also among the children and age-wise, a marries between the younger siblings of King Frederik and Queen Mary could also end up marrying younger sibling(s) of the Dutch RF. Perhaps the Belgian or Spanish as well. - Not the Swedish though, too big an age-gap, except for perhaps Vincent and Estelle. And age-wise there is only Magnus in Norway to match Isabella.

Marriage between first cousins is likely to be banned in DK. Too many such marriages here among certain immigrants, carrying on such traditions for generations, with the result there are now being too many very accomplished banjo-players here... But you can't ban one segment of the population from marrying their first cousins and allowing other segments to do so.

 

[Linda_26]

And what about his younger sister, for her to remain in line to the (defunct) throne, she would also need to marry equally. Any Roman-Catholic princes in their late 30's (or early 40's) left? She herself was born in 1989.

Would the (four) sons of Luis María Gonzaga de Casanova-Cárdenas y Barón, Duke of Sántangelo, Grande of Spain, and Archduchess Monica of Habsburg/Austria qualify as 'equal'?
* Baltasar Carlos Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Vallfogona de Balaguer, 17 de agosto de 1981).
* Gabriel María Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Vallfogona de Balaguer, 21 de marzo de 1983)
* Rafael María Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Castillo de La Rápita, Vallfogona de Balaguer, 11 de agosto de 1986)
* Santiago Casanova-Cárdenas y Habsburgo-Lorena (Castillo de La Rápita, Vallfogona de Balaguer, 26 de abril de 1993)

I'm not sure if they would qualify as "equal", but two of them are already married and have children. Gabriel is married to Cristina Rodríguez y Gámez-Frauendorff, with whom he has two daughters, and Rafael is married to Nicole Lemann, and they have two children:
Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria

 

[eejm]

What about Ingrid Alexandra of Norway and Claus-Casimir of Nassau?

 

[Somebody]

What about Ingrid Alexandra of Norway and Claus-Casimir of Nassau?

Do you mean Count Claus of Orange-Nassau? I don't expect him to marry a royal bride. He is more likely to marry someone in the (old money) business community based on his social circles.

It would also be a surprise if Ingrid-Alexandra ends up marrying royalty or nobility but an uncontroversial spouse in the Norwegian royal family would be good for a change.

Count Felix of Montpezat would make an excellent groom for her. His second cousin Count Richard von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth would also make an excellent royal groom (maybe for Amalia?).