When did your opinion of Diana change and why?

[georgiea]

Any person who says a mother is there for her sons when they are at boarding school for 9 months of the year has a funny idea of what 'being there' means in my opinion.

The Princess Diana was mothering the princes during their formative years. We all know that the first years are the most important and Diana was there for her sons. Until the separation in 1992 Diana and the boys went to be with Prince Charles at Highgrove on weekends. After 1995 the boys were shared. I believe that would make Prince William about 10 and Prince Harry 8. I think Diana, Princess of Wales parenting touch affected her sons by then.

I just read the new Andrew Morton book on William and Catherine and the first chapter is on how Diana, Princess of Wales' parenting skill influenced her boys. ( BTW Andrew Morton is not a Diana fan. He is out for selling his book. He sold out on Princess Diana a few days after she died telling the world that his book on Diana in 1992 was her own words not her friends) Whatever else Princess Diana did in her private life she loved her boys and help guide them into the men they now are.

Having gone to a boarding school I know who had the greater influence on my growing up and it wasn't my parents but rather my house mistresses and the other girls in my year because they were the ones who were there every day, who were there when I was told my grandmother was dying of cancer, who were there when I was told that my best friend had died, who were there when I heard the news that my cousin was getting engaged etc - they were the ones who picked up the pieces on a day to day basis - my parents were the ones who came and told me things but after they left, a couple of days later, it was the school that actually had to deal with things. The same thing happened with the Diana when she did the washing the dirty linen in public e.g. the Morton book and the Panorama interview - she went to the school to talk to William but who actually dealt with the issue on the day to day basis when the other boys were talking about it (and yes I know that the book and interview weren't supposed to be available in the school but if you believe that I have a Harbour Bridge you can buy - the book would have been in that school by recess and well hidden - like all contraband in schools) - the house master and they other teachers. Even dealing with the situation after Diana died - who would have dealt with the day to day issues that arose after that all happened - the school not Charles - they were the ones who were there first and thus the ones to deal with it.

This above beautifully written paragraph I agree with.

Diana - like her parents before her - handed the raising of her sons over to other people. That doesn't mean that she didn't love them but more that she was a product of her own class - and that class believed in having boarding schools raising their kids, along with the nannies etc. Diana might have been slightly more hands on then most in her class but she only had to be with them for about 6 weeks a year (and also in the Squidgeygate tape refers to looking after her own sons as 'babysitting').

No one doubts her love for her sons but I do question whether or not she was actually a good mother in many ways. Fortunately for them the decision about which schools would actually raise the boys was right for them.

Well the decision about schools was made by Diana, Princess of Wales. Prince Charles went along with her. I don't know how you can say Princess Diana was not hands on. She loved children. She was devoted to her sons.
As I have said she arrange her royal duties around the princes. She took them to school and pick them up most days.

Yes after the boys went away Princess Diana was alone and the loneliness and mental troubles came to a head. But her boys were everything to her. Andrew Morton writes better than me, so get his book and you can see that Diana, Princess of Wales as a parent was always there to guide her sons.

 

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I would suggest that lying in the face of proof of 300 + calls to him goes way past "infatuated", she was stalking him and his family was irrelevant, just as irrelevant as Will Carling's wife was when she was "infatuated" with him. Being in love does not give anyone license to invade someone Else's life and marriage, and the extremes to which she went in the case of Oliver Hoare were criminal.

I loathed that Diana was a total hypocrite. She vilified Charles and took every opportunity to bring him down in public, all the while portraying herself as an innocent, hurt and abandoned wife. Yet her own behaviour was truly appalling. What Diana wanted Diana got, and to hell with the consequences. Wife? Children? Irrelevant!

This is another situation where I started to doubt the image of Diana that she herself portrayed. She wanted everyone to believe she was the wounded wife whose husband was cheating on her with another woman, yet she had no problem doing to other women what supposedly was being done to her. That just screams to me that something is wrong with this "Perfect Little Saint Diana" portrait. For me, I have to take the stories from Diana's side and combine them with the stories from Charles' side and somehow find the truth that lies in between. Diana was mentally unstable and I don't know if any man could have made her happy. Who knows when Charles and Camilla started their physical relationship again, but I do believe that no matter when it got sexual again, that he never stopped loving her and he refused to see or was unable to understand that about 99.9% of women would have a hard time dealing with their husband being in love with another women especially when that woman is still a part of their lives. As I have gotten older I have seen some really strange marriages; Hilary and Bill Clinton being one of them. I believe that for a marriage with Charles to work the woman would have to be like Hilary Clinton, Jackie Kennedy, or Rose Kennedy...and according to some QEII. Diana wasn't that type of woman, she wanted what she wanted and if you didn't give it to her then all he11 would break lose.

 

[sirhon11234]

This is another situation where I started to doubt the image of Diana that she herself portrayed. She wanted everyone to believe she was the wounded wife whose husband was cheating on her with another woman, yet she had no problem doing to other women what supposedly was being done to her. That just screams to me that something is wrong with this "Perfect Little Saint Diana" portrait. For me, I have to take the stories from Diana's side and combine them with the stories from Charles' side and somehow find the truth that lies in between. Diana was mentally unstable and I don't know if any man could have made her happy. Who knows when Charles and Camilla started their physical relationship again, but I do believe that no matter when it got sexual again, that he never stopped loving her and he refused to see or was unable to understand that about 99.9% of women would have a hard time dealing with their husband being in love with another women especially when that woman is still a part of their lives. As I have gotten older I have seen some really strange marriages; Hilary and Bill Clinton being one of them. I believe that for a marriage with Charles to work the woman would have to be like Hilary Clinton, Jackie Kennedy, or Rose Kennedy...and according to some QEII. Diana wasn't that type of woman, she wanted what she wanted and if you didn't give it to her then all he11 would break lose.

I always found the marriages of Jackie and Hillary to be quite sad. They stayed with men who cheated on them. What's the point of marriage if one has a spouse that cheats on her or him. I am very happy that Maria Schriver is leaving Arnold.

 

[Mia_mae]

Every story has 2 sides and I'm very much aware that non of them were perfect. But my point of view has changed and then it changed again.
When it comes down to it the one thing that is always on my mind when reading about the former couple is: She was the 19 year-old, he was 32 and the rest of the family, well not only older but more experienced. They should have know better!
While she was the virgin bride with aristocratic background she was perfect, once the problems started to appeared she was the devil?? sorry but that won't never cut out for me!

 

[Vita]

I always found the marriages of Jackie and Hillary to be quite sad. They stayed with men who cheated on them. What's the point of marriage if one has a spouse that cheats on her or him. I am very happy that Maria Schriver is leaving Arnold.

sirhon,

Personally, I agree. But everybody has different motives for staying. Jackie's motives may have been partially due to the time she was raised as well was her being the wife of a power political icon. Women in her position had sometimes even less power than the everyday woman. Her family and especially her father could have swayed her to grin and bear it (not trying to be clever as this is the Middleton's motto).

Hillary's reasons were probably different and more about the political power she was not willing to yield as her husband's climb to the highest US position meant more for her entry into the political circus.

By the time Diana's divorce rolled around it was common even in higher social circles and I think Diana and Charles knew stayimg together was both unhealthy and maybe even dangerous for her mental stability. Diana knew she would not be royal anymore but she also knew she was walking away with beaucoup bucks and with the majority of the public always considering the "people's princess." It probably made the decision a lot sweeter.

I am sorry if I offended anyone with my views on this but I believe my family raised me to see marriage as a business contract (and I came to feel this way when I turned fifteen) and that love is nice but not everything. It's about what both people are bringing to the table and ending it is based on how much you can take with you. Sometimes the things that cannot come with you outweigh the betrayal or whatever issues are there and you stay.

 

[Mermaid1962]

I agree with this 100%. I think that Diana had an immature "love" for Charles--more based on his image and his role than who the man was inside; and if Charles was uneasy about where the relationship was going, he shouldn't have continued seeing her and definitely not have proposed. If the man could command a mine-sweeper and jump out of planes, surely he could have said "no" to the forces pushing him toward this marriage.

 

[XeniaCasaraghi]

Every story has 2 sides and I'm very much aware that non of them were perfect. But my point of view has changed and then it changed again.
When it comes down to it the one thing that is always on my mind when reading about the former couple is: She was the 19 year-old, he was 32 and the rest of the family, well not only older but more experienced. They should have know better!
While she was the virgin bride with aristocratic background she was perfect, once the problems started to appeared she was the devil?? sorry but that won't never cut out for me!

Charles should have realized that a 19yr old high school drop out was not right for him or the royal family. But I'm not going to deny that Diana wanted to be Princess of Wales.
As for Hilary, Jackie and women like them, I am not going to say their marriages are sad; I will say their marriages are more modern and realistic and perhaps better suits the kind of person they are/were. There have been many women throughout history who have stayed with men who were womanizers, I personally don't think I could do it; but I do think that the women who do stay find fulfillment and satisfaction in other areas that keep them content and happy. My parents are thankfully still married and I don't think there is a divorce in my family; but not every marriage is the same and what one couple does may not work for another. I don't fault women who decide to stay with a cheating husband for whatever reason works for them.

 

[MRSJ]

. But everybody has different motives for stayingJackie's motives may have been partially due to the time she was raised as well was her being the wife of a power political icon. Women in her position had sometimes even less power than the everyday woman. Her family and especially her father could have swayed her to grin and bear it (not trying to be clever as this is the Middleton's motto).

I am one of the biggest Jackie Kennedy fans out there so keep that in mind when I say- it has been pretty well accepted Joe Kennedy paid Jackie 1million dollars to not leave Jack when she first learned of his liasons (this was pre - presidency while he was in Senate) Just an FYI about why she may have chosen to stay. ....And her father died in 1957 she had not spoken to him since her wedding in 1953 ......

 

[Vita]

I am one of the biggest Jackie Kennedy fans out there so keep that in mind when I say- it has been pretty well accepted Joe Kennedy paid Jackie 1million dollars to not leave Jack when she first learned of his liasons (this was pre - presidency while he was in Senate) Just an FYI about why she may have chosen to stay. ....And her father died in 1957 she had not spoken to him since her wedding in 1953 ......

I am aware of that but did not want to go into details as this is not what the thread is about. But you reinforced my point.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Charles should have realized that a 19yr old high school drop out was not right for him or the royal family. But I'm not going to deny that Diana wanted to be Princess of Wales.
As for Hilary, Jackie and women like them, I am not going to say their marriages are sad; I will say their marriages are more modern and realistic and perhaps better suits the kind of person they are/were. There have been many women throughout history who have stayed with men who were womanizers, I personally don't think I could do it; but I do think that the women who do stay find fulfillment and satisfaction in other areas that keep them content and happy. My parents are thankfully still married and I don't think there is a divorce in my family; but not every marriage is the same and what one couple does may not work for another. I don't fault women who decide to stay with a cheating husband for whatever reason works for them.

I don't want to veer off topic but ICAM. I think it is a bit simplistic to label those marriages as "sad" because they do not conform to what would work for us.

From what I have learned of both marriages, they involved relationships and circumstances that were incredibly complex. Everyone involved(Jack and Jackie, Hillary and Bill) is or was highly intelligent, ambitious and complicated.

Hillary and Bill have a marriage that works for THEM apparently, and Jacqueline Kennedy is said to have mourned her unfaithful (first)husband to the end of her life, requesting in her will to be buried at his side.

I especially admire the fact that both women refused to discuss or justify their choices to the public.

In the end, nobody really understands what happens in the intimacy of a relationship between husband and wife, except the two people involved.

 

[sirhon11234]

I think opinions on marriage will vary depending on the beliefs of the opinioner and to which generation the person belongs to.

 

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I don't want to veer off topic but ICAM. I think it is a bit simplistic to label those marriages as "sad" because they do not conform to what would work for us.

From what I have learned of both marriages, they involved relationships and circumstances that were incredibly complex. Everyone involved(Jack and Jackie, Hillary and Bill) is or was highly intelligent, ambitious and complicated.

Hillary and Bill have a marriage that works for THEM apparently, and Jacqueline Kennedy is said to have mourned her unfaithful (first)husband to the end of her life, requesting in her will to be buried at his side.

I especially admire the fact that both women refused to discuss or justify their choices to the public.

In the end, nobody really understands what happens in the intimacy of a relationship between husband and wife, except the two people involved.

I agree, Jackie was heartbroken when JFK died and imo the way she reacted shows that there was genuine love there. I don't know enough about Bill*Hilary's marriage but I view it in the same way as Jack and Jackie's, they found a way to have it work for them; whether they changed their views of marriage to business, politics or whatever; if it works for them I don't think anyone should judge. Diana wasn't a Hilary or Jackie, to stay with a man who was having affairs; but also I believe Jackie and Hilary didn't have to deal with a situation where the husband was in love with the women he was cheating with.

 

[Kataryn]

I often recall the video and TV footage of Diana I've seen and am still fascinated by the way she could light up a room and her audience. I really believed in her willingness to do good things and grieved when she died. But it must have been tough for those close to her to know that that was all, though a genuine part of her, just part of her personality which had so many dark sides as well. When I recall the infamous Squidygate-tapes, I'm still baffled at the coldness of her when she talks about Sarah York ("the redhead"). A lot of information I have now shows to me that she became spoilt by being a princess but not getting all she wanted turned her into a difficult personality which virtually walked over corpses to get what she wanted. Not nice.

 

[Mermaid1962]

I think that my impression of Diana was further damaged by the Settelen tapes, because she talked freely and without any apparent remorse about slapping her father after he married Raine. She seemed to be boasting about how she slapped him and told him that it was on behalf of all of them for how much he hurt them (by marrying Raine). I also remember a quote from her father about how "We were all terrified of her", but I can't remember the source--although I believe it was in a book by a respected author--Bradford, maybe? So I think that she always had a dark, bullying side to her personality that came out when she was really angry or hurt. The Settleton tapes dealt a final blow to any illusions I had about Diana's personality. In a way, they were more destructive to my opinion about her than either Morton or Bashir, because she talked about pushing Raine down the stairs after her brother's wedding, again with no remorse, as well as the incident about her father. So I realized that here was a woman who would become physically violent as well as being nasty in the way that women can be--by gossiping or being catty. The public would have dismissed these stories as tabloid gossip, but there she was on video telling these stories about herself. I admire her public work, but I think that she could have been nastier in private--particularly in close family circles--than we'll ever know.

A lot of information I have now shows to me that she became spoilt by being a princess but not getting all she wanted turned her into a difficult personality which virtually walked over corpses to get what she wanted. Not nice.

 

[georgiea]

I think that my impression of Diana was further damaged by the Settleton tapes, because she talked freely and without any apparent remorse about slapping her father after he married Raine. She seemed to be boasting about how she slapped him and told him that it was on behalf of all of them for how much he hurt them (by marrying Raine). I also remember a quote from her father about how "We were all terrified of her", but I can't remember the source--although I believe it was in a book by a respected author--Bradford, maybe? So I think that she always had a dark, bullying side to her personality that came out when she was really angry or hurt. The Settleton tapes dealt a final blow to any illusions I had about Diana's personality. In a way, they were more destructive to my opinion about her than either Morton or Bashir, because she talked about pushing Raine down the stairs after her brother's wedding, again with no remorse, as well as the incident about her father. So I realized that here was a woman who would become physically violent as well as being nasty in the way that women can be--by gossiping or being catty. The public would have dismissed these stories as tabloid gossip, but there she was on video telling these stories about herself. I admire her public work, but I think that she could have been nastier in private--particularly in close family circles--than we'll ever know.

What year were the Settleton tapes made? Were these tapes Diana, Princess of Wales whole life? Did she say she was sorry for her actions?
Why else would they be brought up.

 

[Mermaid1962]

The tapes were made in 1992 when Diana was working with her speech coach, Peter Settelen. There are clips available on YouTube. Diana doesn't appear to be depressed on them. She expresses no remorse at all for her violent acts. If anything, she seems rather proud of them. She talks about her sex life with Charles, her relationship with her family, her suspicions that her favourite protection officer was "bumped off", etc. Settleton is interviewing her in order to help her "find her voice." The tapes weren't meant to be made public, but they came out after her death and were broadcast. Here's an article I found: USATODAY.com - Diana tapes suggest lover 'bumped off'

The tapes were part of Diana's estate and were somehow "acquired" by NBC.

What year were the Settleton tapes made? Were these tapes Diana, Princess of Wales whole life? Did she say she was sorry for her actions?
Why else would they be brought up.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

I almost fell off of my chair when I heard Diana discussing her sex life with Settelin... her speech coach!...she was actually talking about the number of times she and Charles slept together during the week! She wasn't the least bit embarrassed or hesitant!

I remember shaking my head going "Noooooooo Diana...SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!!"

I was also jolted by how cold and dismissive she was about Sarah...and how she bragged about shoving Raine down a flight of steps...what if she had killed the woman??!

Sigh...may God grant her soul peace.

 

[olebabs]

The secret tapes

If what she tell is the truth, I am amazed that no one, got her some help. how can anyone just stand by and look at another human being dissolve like that. And I am not saying this put down Prince Charles. I suspect that he has done what he could to his ability. But the doctor friend who helped her make these tapes, should bloody well have been able to help her. Geezzz..with frirnds like this who needs enemies!

I really hope that she has found peace at last.

 

[Vita]

When it comes to wicked stepmoms, I know a thing or two about it. And unless you do, withold judgement and even then it is relative. Children often see sometimes in the new spouse what the parent does not want to see.

 

[nancybee]

I did not take much interest in Diana. I did not see her wedding. I just assumed that Prince Charles had gotten married and ho hum.

In the early 1990's I of course starting reading things. After many years later (and about 20 or so books) I felt that Diana was an emotionally fragile, neurotic woman. I came to this conclusion after I confirmed that she had:

a. Pushed her stepmother down the stairs in 1986 at Althorp during her brothers wedding.
b. Threw herself down the steps after having an argument with her husband.
c. When she was single, threw an egg and flour concoction all over James Gilbey's $100,000 car after he stood her up and other things ad nauseum.

Prince Charles and the Queen did not want the separation or the divorce. I think she was self destructive in some way. I realized when I was watching her son get married that his bride was nothing like Diana in fact quite the opposite. Although he loved his mother, he believed she was a spoiled, difficulty, unhappy, and complicated woman. Prince William has married a simple, uncomplicated woman who came from a stable, happy home life. That is exactly what he needed.

 

[Mermaid1962]

There's a difference between having strong feelings of dislike for a step-mother or resenting a father for getting married to her, and taking out one's feelings in a violent manner. I don't judge a person for having harsh feelings--goodness knows I've had enough of my own; but slapping and pushing take things to a whole other level. For one thing, Raine would have been within her rights to call the police over that incident.

When it comes to wicked stepmoms, I know a thing or two about it. And unless you do, withold judgement and even then it is relative. Children often see sometimes in the new spouse what the parent does not want to see.

 

[Mermaid1962]

Her doctor friend was involved with the tapes Diana made for Andrew Morton in 1991. Peter Settelen was responsible for the video tapes made in 1992.

I agree. Her doctor friend should have been able to see her emotional problems; but then again, Diana could appear normal and charming. She was almost without fault during her public appearances, particularly when she was working on her own.

I believe that Charles and others tried to get her help, but she wouldn't accept it from them. On the other hand, she claimed to be "crying out for help" but ignored.

If what she tell is the truth, I am amazed that no one, got her some help. how can anyone just stand by and look at another human being dissolve like that... But the doctor friend who helped her make these tapes, should bloody well have been able to help her. Geezzz..with frirnds like this who needs enemies!

 

[Mermaid1962]

A major part of Diana's tragedy is that she was willing to talk to anyone about her most personal things, particularly if the person she was talking to was a male. Look at the people who were her "vessels": Andrew Morton, Martin Bashir, Peter Settelen--all men to whom she told everything to at the slightest provocation. She was very vulnerable to male attention, and her involvement with Martin and Bashir in particular contributed to her divorce and ultimate death.

I almost fell off of my chair when I heard Diana discussing her sex life with Settelin... her speech coach!..

 

[sirhon11234]

What year were the Settleton tapes made? Were these tapes Diana, Princess of Wales whole life? Did she say she was sorry for her actions?
Why else would they be brought up.

Well the tapes were made in 1992 when exactly in 92 I do not know but alot of her relationships changed by 1997. Diana and Raine's relationship improved greatly. I read in Tina Brown's book that Diana apologized to Raine and thanked her for taking care of her father. And apparently Diana made up with her father as she was with him in his final weeks except when he persuaded her to vacation with Charles and the boys; while she was on the trip the Earl died.
Those tapes were private showing Diana venting out her anger. It wasn't ment to be public but it was released for the sole purpose of making money.

 

[Vita]

There's a difference between having strong feelings of dislike for a step-mother or resenting a father for getting married to her, and taking out one's feelings in a violent manner. I don't judge a person for having harsh feelings--goodness knows I've had enough of my own; but slapping and pushing take things to a whole other level. For one thing, Raine would have been within her rights to call the police over that incident.

It was only by the grace of God, I did not do the same to mine. But when she uttered nasty things about my mom to me that were untrue (she hated that my father's side hated her and saw her for gold digging you-know-what that she was but they loved my mom till her ending days), I punched her in the face and ripped her a new one. Litetally. And I froze Vati out until he came to his senses and refused to honour any custody arrangements. The most undignified, de classe moment of my life and I don't regret it, still revel in it, and would do it all again and I am more of a make love and not war kind of gal.

But enough about that. I heard Raine was horrible according to an article I read in Vanity Fair. It was about the English estates and Charles Spencer did not have kind words for his stepmummy.

This all could have affected Diana greatly. They did get friendlier in the end so...My comment was more general than anything else.

But think about Diana'a realtive Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire. They seemed to have similar attitudes. Could Diana's issues been hereditary (and not just because of Georgiana)? This detail may change some opinions maybe?

 

[nancybee]

Well, if Diana's husband had truly loved her, he would have set her on his lap, put his arms around her and told her they would work things out. And if Diana could have laid Charles' head in her lap and said, 'There there. Everything will be alright, maybe they would still be happily married.

But sadly, that's not the way it was between the two of them. Prince Charles was an emotional cripple himself and needed a mommy (i.e., Camilla). And he simply could not fulfill Diana's emotional needs nor she his (empty pitchers cannot fill each other up). And everyone knows the rest of the story. Hopefully, Diana's children have and will find happiness in life.

 

[Mermaid1962]

I believe that there's mental instability in the Fermoy's, and Diana's uncle on that side committed suicide. The Spencers were known to be a really dramatic, passionate family; but I don't know of any mental illness there. Genetics plays such a big part in things. So she might have had a tendency there anyway that came out after her parents' marriage breakdown. And then it would have got worse with all the pressure she was under during her engagement and after her marriage. The wonder is that she achieved so much in spite of everything.

But think about Diana'a realtive Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire. They seemed to have similar attitudes. Could Diana's issues been hereditary (and not just because of Georgiana)? This detail may change some opinions maybe?

 

[Moonmaiden23]

A major part of Diana's tragedy is that she was willing to talk to anyone about her most personal things, particularly if the person she was talking to was a male. Look at the people who were her "vessels": Andrew Morton, Martin Bashir, Peter Settelen--all men to whom she told everything to at the slightest provocation. She was very vulnerable to male attention, and her involvement with Martin and Bashir in particular contributed to her divorce and ultimate death.

Interesting observation(about Diana being vulnerable to male attention and being willing to tell all to them)...I remember one of her first male confidants was the doomed bodyguard Barry Mannakee, who was sacked by the Palace for his over familiarity with the Princess, and whom Diana later insisted was "bumped off".

She was also much attracted older women who served as maternal figures...Lady Anabel Goldsmith, Lucia Flecha da Lima, Rosa Lawson...heck even Mother Theresa of Calcutta!

I feel to this day that Andrew Morton and Martin Bashir took the most shameful advantage of her...they literally made their names and fortunes off of Diana's illness.

Tragic.

ETA: I also agree with Vita's observation about William's choice of a wife...except for the ability to dress well, Diana and Kate Middleton are as different as night and day. Kate seems to almost revel in being in the background, and for doing nothing except being William's partner and helpmate. The Palace will have NO problem with her wanting to rebel and strike out on her own, I am almost sure of it.

It's notable also that William chose a wife who comes from a warm, loving united family and that he enjoys spending time with them.

 

[nancybee]

I don't believe you 'inherit' anything from a relative except possibly mental disorders like schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, and anxiety disorders like torrettes syndrome and obsessive compulsive disorder (cousin of tourettes) and some types of depression.

Diana sadly needed a happy, stable, loving home life because she was vulnerable. She didn't get alot of attention either. Some children need to be out there in front getting alot of attention or something goes wrong. People wanted to scream at her to be quiet, don't make waves, just go along with the program because they knew that was the only way she was going to survive in that family. She was so needy emotionally and had so much unfulfilled needs. And married into the totally wrong family for her. It was a disaster. And her husband could not begin to understand her and give her what she needed emotionally. And it's all water under the bridge now. Let's just hope that her children and grandchildren can find happiness for themselves.

 

[Mermaid1962]

Yes, that's what I was referring to when I mentioned Diana's genetic inheritance from the Fermoys. There was certainly depression in common there. I'm not convinced that Diana crossed the line into psychosis, but who knows for sure?

I don't believe you 'inherit' anything from a relative except possibly mental disorders like schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, and anxiety disorders like torrettes syndrome and obsessive compulsive disorder (cousin of tourettes) and some types of depression.