The Future of the British Monarchy 1: 2018 - 2022


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Charles will carry out his duties as king well. He'll be prepared to take over as soon as his time comes.
Polls are always favorable to the monarchy. The monarchy is strong in the UK so the Royal Family needn't worry.
Of course some countries may leave the Commonwealth. But this is inevitable.
 
I haven't heard of any country wanting to leave the Commonwealth - the opposite in fact with a number of countries that were never part of the British Empire wanting to join.

What some countries may want to do is become Republics. That is a form of government favoured by the vast majority of the countries of the Commonwealth with the most recent country in the Commonwealth to choose to be a Republic being Barbados.
 
I haven't heard of any country wanting to leave the Commonwealth - the opposite in fact with a number of countries that were never part of the British Empire wanting to join.

What some countries may want to do is become Republics. That is a form of government favoured by the vast majority of the countries of the Commonwealth with the most recent country in the Commonwealth to choose to be a Republic being Barbados.

I know this has been said many times before, but it is interesting that in the Realms, the most prominent arguments against the union of crowns pertain to the countries' past and present relationship with Britain and being represented by a head of state who is chiefly British (rather than the characteristics of monarchy as a form of government), and yet none of the Realms seem to have given serious contemplation to simply replacing the British monarch with a native monarch, for example by installing the governor-general as the new queen/king.
 
I know this has been said many times before, but it is interesting that in the Realms, the most prominent arguments against the union of crowns pertain to the countries' past and present relationship with Britain and being represented by a head of state who is chiefly British (rather than the characteristics of monarchy as a form of government), and yet none of the Realms seem to have given serious contemplation to simply replacing the British monarch with a native monarch, for example by installing the governor-general as the new queen/king.

That's because it would appear absurd to do so in this day & age. And that's not to comment one way or the other on whether it is. It might have worked in the C19th. And there were of course proposals at the time I think. At least for Canada?

A major issue is whether the realm was formally a colony or a dominion. It made perfect sense to be in personal union with the UK when a majority of the settler descended inhabitants viewed themselves to be just as British as those in the "home isles". In fact they were Britons, just ones born on different continents, living in different climates/landscapes & speaking with their own unique accents. Becoming exclusively (Anglo) Canadian, Australian & NZ in a political/cultural sense & no longer British was a gradual evolution accelerated by two world wars.

Post ww2 all British colonies should have become republics on independence. But there was still this peculiar belief that somehow the Commonwealth could become an alternative to the two superpowers. And that the crown would symbolise this unity. A kind of misplaced imperial nostalgia that made zero strategic or economic sense.
 
I know this has been said many times before, but it is interesting that in the Realms, the most prominent arguments against the union of crowns pertain to the countries' past and present relationship with Britain and being represented by a head of state who is chiefly British (rather than the characteristics of monarchy as a form of government), and yet none of the Realms seem to have given serious contemplation to simply replacing the British monarch with a native monarch, for example by installing the governor-general as the new queen/king.

Monarchies normally derive their legitimacy from some claim of historical continuity. Installing the Governor General as a king/queen and turning his lineal descendants into a royal dynasty would not make much sense to me.

Besides, the office of Governor General is by nature much closer to that of a ceremonial President than that of a monarch, not least because Governors General have an informal term of office and are changed every 5 years or so in most Commonwealth realms. That is one reason why a common choice in realms that prefer a seamless transition from the monarchy to the republic is simply to rename the Governor General the President, as Barbados did in 2021 or South Africa did in 1961, while otherwise keeping most of the constitution unchanged.

In practical terms, the Commonwealth realms actually already operate as de facto republics since all constitutional roles of the Queen, in relation for example to the executive branch, the legislature, the courts, the armed forces, international relations, or honors and awards are already carried out by the Governor General, who is a non-hereditary officer and serves for a limited time only.

Post ww2 all British colonies should have become republics on independence. But there was still this peculiar belief that somehow the Commonwealth could become an alternative to the two superpowers. And that the crown would symbolise this unity. A kind of misplaced imperial nostalgia that made zero strategic or economic sense.

I actually think that turning the Commonwealth, which has over 2 billion people, a 10 trillion dollar GDP, a common language and similar legal systems, into an actual free trade zone makes a lot of strategic and economic sense, but unfortunately that was not a priority of the various British governments post WW2. On the contrary, the UK rolled back the preferential trade status that some Commonwealth countries had when it chose instead to join the EEC, even though historically (e.g. in the early 20th century), continental Europe acconted for less than 20 % of British international trade and foreign direct investment.

History of course will judge if it was a mistake for Britain to see its future as lying in Europe and joining a protectionist continental European single market over whose rules Britain would have increasingly less influence, but in any case, Britain's approach to the Commonwealth has been one of repeated missed opportunities. At least that is my opinion.
 
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why should they become republics if they didn't want to?
 
why should they become republics if they didn't want to?

Well we don't know what majority public opinion was at the time because nobody asked the people. Those constitutional decisions were made by their own political elites. And many of them were heavily anglicised. There was probably pressure put on them to remain realms as part of British policy.

Where there were post independence referendums those held in African countries that became realms showed a substantial majority in favour of becoming republics.. The first African colony to become independent Ghana lasted only three years as a realm.
 
I actually think that turning the Commonwealth, which has over 2 billion people, a 10 trillion dollar GDP, a common language and similar legal systems, into an actual free trade zone makes a lot of strategic and economic sense, but unfortunately that was not a priority of the various British governments post WW2. On the contrary, the UK rolled back the preferential trade status that some Commonwealth countries had when it chose instead to join the EEC, even though historically (e.g. in the early 20th century), continental Europe acconted for less than 20 % of British international trade and foreign direct investment.

History of course will judge if it was a mistake for Britain to see its future as lying in Europe and joining a protectionist continental European single market over whose rules Britain would have increasingly less influence, but in any case, Britain's approach to the Commonwealth has been one of repeated missed opportunities. At least that is my opinion.

All of the realms including the UK are de facto "crowned republics".

When Britain was campaigning to join the EEC it made economic sense. Western Europe contained a large percentage of the world economy. With lots of newly rich fast developing markets in W.Germany, France, Italy & the Benelux.

The former dominions aside the rest of the Commonwealth was an economic backwater. And even a dominion like NZ was in effect a giant farm for the people of Britain since that's where most of its agricultural exports went to. It was after the shock of the UK's accession to the EEC that NZ was forced to modernise its economy (it was treated shamefully by the then UK government btw).

It could be argued that the UK's real missed opportunity was not being in at the very start of "Europe". The institutions & ethos of the EEC would have been very different.

Now of course the world has moved on & the EU like the US is in economic relative decline. So maybe the UK will survive or even thrive outside of the EU single market. Or maybe it won't. The Asia-Pacific - ASEAN, China et al is after all where the future lies.

Either way The Commonwealth is not the answer. The UK is a very small (population wise) part of the Commonwealth & in the coming decades Commonwealth GDP will be dominated by giant India & possibly Nigeria.

There was once a small window of opportunity for the dominions (minus South Africa) & the UK to form some sort of EU type association but that passed many decades ago. Which in retrospect is unfortunate since such an alternate centre of Western influence would have been a useful counterweight to the US (as a critical friend, ally & partner).
 
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The one place which considered doing that was the United States, where serious consideration was given to making George Washington king. And Oliver Cromwell nearly became King of England.

King Zog of Albania had no royal lineage. Nor really did the Karageorgeviches of Serbia. And the most famous example is Napoleon. Or, come to think of it, Augustus Caesar/Napoleon!

I can't see any way that any of the present Commonwealth countries will choose someone with no royal heritage to start a new royal dynasty, but it's certainly been done before.
 
The one place which considered doing that was the United States, where serious consideration was given to making George Washington king. And Oliver Cromwell nearly became King of England.

King Zog of Albania had no royal lineage. Nor really did the Karageorgeviches of Serbia. And the most famous example is Napoleon. Or, come to think of it, Augustus Caesar/Napoleon!

And Bonaparte made his brothers the kings of half of Europe. Even his son was the King of Rome.

Now that really was a "family firm".
 
The tour of the Carribbean has left the future of the monarchy as a hot topic and QEII's successors have to decide whether to put an end to the age-old royal policy of ‘never complain, never explain’ or to stick with it.
What is the right way in the age of social media.
I personally thought that William's statement was a good thing, but he is not the monarch as yet. Same goes for Charles, who has given lots of controversial opinions in the past decades.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...liam-learned-grandfathers-wisest-example.html
 
yet none of the Realms seem to have given serious contemplation to simply replacing the British monarch with a native monarch, for example by installing the governor-general as the new queen/king.

For Canada, the chance of this happening is close to zero even though on a day to day basis, most Canadians see the monarchy as irrelevant. Certainly in my lifetime (I'm 66), I seen the monarchy decline considerably in public consciousness here in Canada.

Personally I'd would like to see the governor general representing the country of Canada as its symbolic head (but not a monarch) rather than as the Queen's representative. Although I like and respect the Queen, I'm not a royalist or a monarchist. However I'm realistic to recognize that this is very unlikely to ever happen.

The reasons are twofold:

1) Most Canadians see our system of government different than that of the USA. We prefer our present system and have no desire to emulate the American system.(In Canada, we are very familiar with everything Americans do.) The role of the Queen of Canada as the symbolic head of state is seen as a major part of that difference from the USA.

2) From a practical point of view to change it would require amending our constitution, an action no one in Canada wants. In the 1990s, we had 2 referendums to amend our constitution which failed (Meech and Charlottetown). These attempts to amend the constitution exacerbated divisions within our country with Quebec, western Canada and indigenous people. No one wants to reopen open the can of worms of attempting to amend our constitution.

So I think Canada will continue to be a realm with the Queen/King of Canada (who is also the Queen/King of UK) as its symbolic head of state because of inertia. Under Charles, the Canadian public consciousness of the monarchy will probably continue to diminish but the system will remain IMHO.

As far as the Commonwealth is concerned, I don't think there's any desire for Canada to leave either. Again, I think it's not high in the public consciousness here (it gets very little coverage here) and doesn't have the emotional attachment it once did. However I don't think there's a desire for Canada to leave the Commonwealth. It's just seen as one of the many international member groups which Canada belongs to (ie. NATO, G8, G20, World Trade Organization, OCED (Organization for Economic Co-operation) etc., and Canada will most likely remain a part of the Commonwealth.
 
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See here for discussion of the report, when it was originally published in February:

Counsellors of State

Unfortunately there are some significant errors in the report, which I commented on in that thread.
 
An interesting view from Tina Brown on what Charles should do as King to keep the monarchy popular. I don't agree with much of it but it is an interesting take

https://archive.ph/jKXb9#selection-1063.438-1063.454

In short:

Banish Andrew off Windsor Estate so he keeps a low profile
Bring Meghan and Harry back
Step down as Head of State of Commonwealth countries unless they vote for him to remain
Royal visits based around themes the individual royals are passionate about
Brown says the monarchy needs a rebrand "as big as Blair did with new labour"
That Charles will need to be a transitional monarchy, making a lot of changes ready for William's longer reign
 
An interesting view from Tina Brown on what Charles should do as King to keep the monarchy popular. I don't agree with much of it but it is an interesting take

https://archive.ph/jKXb9#selection-1063.438-1063.454

Step down as Head of State of Commonwealth countries unless they vote for him to remain

That part shows lack of understanding of how the shared monarchy works. A country can pull out the shared monarchy and become a republic (as many have done in the past), but the King cannot abdicate in one realm and not in the others at the same time as they all share a common law of succession to the throne and any change to the law of succession must be assented to by all the realms.

On the other hand, Charles cannot unilaterally decide that other realms should become republics. The monarchy can only be abolished in each realm following the procedure to do that which is set out in their respective constitutions. If Charles simply "stepped down" in a realm and the abdication were legally ratified, the realm would continue to be a monarchy and William would become King. Charles cannot ask the realms either "to have a vote" to confirm him as King. He will be automatically King under the law of the realms if he outlives his mother.

Any way one tries to interpret Tina Brown's proposal, it is completely nonsensical. I wish so-called "royal experts" were more careful about what they write or say.
 
An interesting view from Tina Brown on what Charles should do as King to keep the monarchy popular. I don't agree with much of it but it is an interesting take

https://archive.ph/jKXb9#selection-1063.438-1063.454

In short:

Banish Andrew off Windsor Estate so he keeps a low profile
Bring Meghan and Harry back
Step down as Head of State of Commonwealth countries unless they vote for him to remain
Royal visits based around themes the individual royals are passionate about
Brown says the monarchy needs a rebrand "as big as Blair did with new labour"
That Charles will need to be a transitional monarchy, making a lot of changes ready for William's longer reign

Wouldn't Charles somehow attempting to unilaterally declaring that he is no longer King of his other realms and force a change of government be actually trying to have more power and control over the lives of others than he actually have or should have as a constitutional monarch?

It's happening anyway and the BRF have made it clear that it is up to the countries themselves. It also requires a lot of expense, organisation and perhaps figuring out what system of government each country wants next. You can't just declare "you're becoming a republic, hold a presidential election but keep your PM as the Head of Government". That's not solving the issue, quite the opposite.

The BRF already tailor visits to a royal's interests. But it certainly shouldn't the the ONLY thing they do. That would be a disaster. And there would be more accusations of voluncationing all the time.

It's probably in the BRF's best interests to come to some sort of public and private entente with the Sussexes (with their agreement to stop talking as well) but HIHO still doesn't work for all the reasons previously discussed, especially if Meghan wants to venture further into US politics.

It's hilarious to compare the monarchy to New Labour! And Blair now one of the most controversial PMs of recent history.
 
An interesting view from Tina Brown on what Charles should do as King to keep the monarchy popular. I don't agree with much of it but it is an interesting take

https://archive.ph/jKXb9#selection-1063.438-1063.454

In short:

Banish Andrew off Windsor Estate so he keeps a low profile
Bring Meghan and Harry back
Step down as Head of State of Commonwealth countries unless they vote for him to remain
Royal visits based around themes the individual royals are passionate about
Brown says the monarchy needs a rebrand "as big as Blair did with new labour"
That Charles will need to be a transitional monarchy, making a lot of changes ready for William's longer reign

Dare one say idiotic ideas?
 
Wouldn't Charles somehow attempting to unilaterally declaring that he is no longer King of his other realms and force a change of government be actually trying to have more power and control over the lives of others than he actually have or should have as a constitutional monarch?
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Exactly. Any move to become a republic or to have a referendum on the monarchy has to be initiated by the Parliaments of the realms and, then, all the necessary constitutional steps would have to be followed (for example, in Canada, the legislative assemblies of the provinces would have to be involved too in any change affecting "the office of the Queen").

It is not up to Charles as a constitutional monarch to "tell" the Parliaments of each of his realms what they should do, or try to influence their legislative process.

Charles could, as I said, abdicate, but he would have to abdicate in all the realms, with the consent of each of them, and his abdication would not make any of the realms a republic. It would just be equivalent to a demise of the Crown and William, if he were alive and not otherwise disqualified by law, would ascend the throne of all of the realms.

It is a very complicated legal relationship that is a relic of the Empire. Over time, I think most realms will eventually become republics, but it will be a slow process. Although there are not that many fans of the royals in the realms, many people, especially in the old "white dominions", feel that the complication of setting up a republic and reopening constitutional issues outweighs the benefits of getting rid of the King.
 
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Banish Andrew is not a bad idea ;)

Yes, but that is inevitable anyway. I doubt that anyone will want him as a patron, or as a participant in public events.

I also think it would be a bad idea to bring the Sussexes back; there's no indication that they've changed their minds and want to be working royals again.

(I'm still surprised they were allowed to renew the lease on Frogmore Cottage, since that property was allotted to them when their circumstances were different.)
 
Yes, but that is inevitable anyway. I doubt that anyone will want him as a patron, or as a participant in public events.

I also think it would be a bad idea to bring the Sussexes back; there's no indication that they've changed their minds and want to be working royals again.

(I'm still surprised they were allowed to renew the lease on Frogmore Cottage, since that property was allotted to them when their circumstances were different.)


Nonetheless, I think Charles will try to bring the Sussexes back when he is King. And I think the Sussexes will take his offer as, in a few years, they will be "old news" in America and will run out of options. It is already happening now.


Just my two cents.
 
Alot of the ideas are quite simplistic to say the least. But actually do address the issues the RF face now-

"Banishing" Andrew is needed. He needs to either be persona non grata or allowed back in to some extend, sneaking around hoping noone notices him isn't working. The reality is once HM passes on it may well be easier for all to get him to go away elsewhere. If Eugene is is moving part time to Portugal maybe he can go there - sell the remainder of the lease on Royal Lodge and get a nice house in private grounds somewhere overseas. Having him pop up at Windsor all the time is the worst of both worlds, especially at the moment when the paps know to camp out on the estate incase they see HM, the Sussexes or Andrew - Windsor is becoming a sure thing for royal pics.

The Sussex's fall into the same group IMO - either in or out not half and half. Obviously Charles is less likely to want to "banish" them as he is Andrew. Brown doe acknowledge the Sussex's went at royal life wrong but suggests they have "another go". Personally I don't see them being back full time but having an easier relationship with the RF - privately as family and publicly as in not slating the monarchy every 5 minutes is needed for all.

The Commonwealth Realms are becoming a problem for the RF. At a time when the world is reflecting on colonial pasts, ethnic minorities being treated poorly, Windrush etc the RF looks outdated "reigning" over poorer, black nations (to put it simply). Add to that the RF's hands appeared tied both by sticking to the UK government line (i.e. not apologising for the past it seems, they are also tied to not disagree with the government of whichever realm they are in as well) it means the RF in the middle come out battered by both sides and looking worst off. The Commonwealth of Nations is definitely the way forward - independent countries with a shared past working together to better each other. Charles has been use to speaking out against government ideas (within reason) and this is the one area I would lie to see him do that- i.e. I'm Head of the Commonwealth so have to thing about what is best for all countries not just the UK so on Commonwealth matters I'll speak out. It annoys me that the UK government does so little with the Commonwealth, especially post Brexit. Giving Commonwealth Realms an almost automatic out into being members of the Commonwealth of Nations group may just stop the whole thing rumbling on and on.

I don't get Brown's comments about tours exactly. Most of the family's visits are well planned, we had a blip recently but that was for very specific reasons to do with those countries visited and the imagery. What I think the RF do need to get better at is making the different types of tours clear -
State Visits - the highest visit possible with a lot of ceremony
Official Visits - promoting the UK government's agenda with a bit of "softer" issues closer to the individual royals hearts/programme
Issue specific visits - e.g. Catherine in Denmark for childhood development, Anne visiting Save the Children overseas etc
Commonwealth Visits - visiting members of the Commonwealth (not just realms) to promote the Commonwealth as a group of nations working together. Here one would expect the royal visiting to promote the Commonwealth's agenda - whatever issues they are particularly focusing on at the moment. Personally I think these visits should be almost free of UK government involvement and certainly not restrained to uK government agenda. The Queen had her own personal flag created so she could fly it to symbolise her visiting in a role distinct from that as Sovereign of the United Kingdom, that needs to remembered and built upon.
At the moment it isn't clear what every visit is, and indeed some are a mix of these.

The issues of recent trips will be sorted out by Realms who want to become independent being encouraged to do so asap - the Queen once said of Australia when it had its referendum - she'd rather visits as a welcomed, invited guest than an unwanted Head of State.

The reality is, the RF will undergo huge changes because, while HM The Queen has adapted and changed it has been her final say on change for 70 years. There are some areas I see them changing which I think aren't going to be good - I think they will become more London centric, less away days, doing more on social media rather than getting out and about and I don't think that is a good thing personally - HM has stated she has to be seen to be believed and that IMO means being seen around the UK not on Insta in a video.
 
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That part shows lack of understanding of how the shared monarchy works. A country can pull out the shared monarchy and become a republic (as many have done in the past), but the King cannot abdicate in one realm and not in the others at the same time as they all share a common law of succession to the throne and any change to the law of succession must be assented to by all the realms.

On the other hand, Charles cannot unilaterally decide that other realms should become republics. The monarchy can only be abolished in each realm following the procedure to do that which is set out in their respective constitutions. If Charles simply "stepped down" in a realm and the abdication were legally ratified, the realm would continue to be a monarchy and William would become King. Charles cannot ask the realms either "to have a vote" to confirm him as King. He will be automatically King under the law of the realms if he outlives his mother.

Any way one tries to interpret Tina Brown's proposal, it is completely nonsensical. I wish so-called "royal experts" were more careful about what they write or say.

I agree. I overestimated Tina Brown's understanding of how the British monarchy operates.

In addition how on earth is Charles going to "bring back Harry and Meghan," who have given NO indication that they even want to come back?

How is Charles going to "ban" Andrew from his own home?

Brown should stick to glossy high end gossip.:cool:
 
I think it is particularly silly. Andrew has to live somehwere and Windsor is probalby the safest place where he can live a quiet life...

Much as we would all like Anbdrew to dissappear into thin air, I am not particularly concerned about him living quietly at Royal Lodge (to which he has a lease, paid for in a commercial, arms-length transaction), and being photographed either driving or riding from time to time. He is not dojgn anybody any harm, and is living the life of a private citizen, albeit a wealthy one. The press will eventually lose intetest in his pictures.

That said, I do not support Andrew appearing alongside HM at any events, and ideally, the next event he should appear at should only be his mother's funeral at some stage in the future.
 
The Commonwealth Realms are becoming a problem for the RF. At a time when the world is reflecting on colonial pasts, ethnic minorities being treated poorly, Windrush etc the RF looks outdated "reigning" over poorer, black nations (to put it simply). Add to that the RF's hands appeared tied both by sticking to the UK government line (i.e. not apologising for the past it seems, they are also tied to not disagree with the government of whichever realm they are in as well) it means the RF in the middle come out battered by both sides and looking worst off. The Commonwealth of Nations is definitely the way forward - independent countries with a shared past working together to better each other. Charles has been use to speaking out against government ideas (within reason) and this is the one area I would lie to see him do that- i.e. I'm Head of the Commonwealth so have to thing about what is best for all countries not just the UK so on Commonwealth matters I'll speak out. It annoys me that the UK government does so little with the Commonwealth, especially post Brexit. Giving Commonwealth Realms an almost automatic out into being members of the Commonwealth of Nations group may just stop the whole thing rumbling on and on.


I think we have to put things in perspective.

The Commonwealth realms debate has been exacerbated by the recent Caribbean tours and the issue of the Caribbean governments demanding slavery reparations from the United Kingdom. But, apart from Barbados having become a republic (hardly the first Commonwealth realm to do so), or Jamaican politicians saying they want to do the same (which they have been saying for ages), we don't even know how the people of the Caribbean actually feel about the monarchy vs a republic.

Then there is the different question of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand (the "rich" and "mostly white" Commonwealth realms).

In Canada, I think we can say for sure that no major political party is campaigning for a republic and, again, even if Canadians are not necessarily fans of the monarchy or are indifferent to it, the politicians do not want to go through the constitutional process to replace the Queen with a President because they fear the provinces, especially Quebec and to a lesser extent the Western provinces, would use it to demand other unrelated constitutional changes too, and Canadians have a big trauma of those constitutional debates from the 1980s and 1990s. There could be also issues with the First Nations if the Crown were abolished. Overall, it is not worth it, especially because the Queen is "harmless" and, in Canada in particular, some Governors General (see Adrienne Clarkson or Michaëlle Jean) already behave as if they were indeed non-executive Presidents anyway.


In Australia, I guess there is a very strong republican movement and most of the political class wants a republic, including the Australian Labor Party which is currently in government. But there was already a referendum and the Republic lost by a considerable margin, and the republicans cannot agree on what model of republic they want. Even the current PM Albanese, who is a left-wing republican, gave up the plans of the previous Labor leader, Bill Shorten, to reopen the republic debate in his first term of office, so I don't see it as something that will happen in the short term or, maybe even for quite same time. The threshold for the referendum set out in the Australian constitution of a nationwide majority and a majority in a majority of states is a very high bar, and going for a popularly elected President, or a ceremonial one appointed by a supermajority in Parliament, will, one way or the other, alienate part of the republican voters.

Finally, I don't know much about New Zealand, but, from what I heard some Kiwis say on the Web, it looks like many also fear, because NZ does not have a written constitution and operates like the UK on conventions that are strongly tied to the Crown, that a republic would raise many delicate constitutional issues, unless they went for a rigid written constitution model, which in turn is something that they don't want either. And there is also the question of Maori rights in the event of a transition to a republic, although I personally think that should not be a problem since the Republic, as the successor to the Realm of New Zealand, should be bound by the same treaty obligations that the Realm had. In any case, I don't think a republic is imminent in New Zealand either, even with republican PMs.

One thing that King Charles could do, however, and, in my opinion, should do, is to step down, not as King of the realms, but rather as the Head of the Commonwealth as a whole. There is no reason why the Head of the Commonwealth, as this organization exists today, should automatically be the British monarch and, in fact, considering the spotlight that Tommy mentioned on colonial issues, it would be better if he were not. However, both the Queen and the UK government actively campaigned for the Prince of Wales to be named the Queen's successor as Head of the Commonwealth, which is, in my opinion, a colonial or imperial mindset.


And, BTW, my understanding is that any country can leave the Commonwealth whenever it wants. It is a very loose organization and much easier to leave than the European Union for example. Ceasing to be a Commonwealth realm may be more complicated, depending on the constitutional process in each country, but Barbados for example did it rather easily and the government didn't ever bother to call a referendum! Apparently that wouldn't be possible in Jamaica, but I am not sure.
 
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Personally I think the Commonwealth is the way forward precisely because it is completely voluntary whereas there are those who feel having the British Sovereign as Head of State is somehow forced upon them as "tradition". A lot of countries in the Commonwealth have chosen not to have HM as Head of State but very willingly been part of the Commonwealth.

I certainly thing, whatever the "solution" to the bigger issue of the Commonwealth the messaging around the RF's link with the Commonwealth needs to be better thought out and better communicated. Part of this is very likely to be an issue of timing and recent issues coming to a head but I do honestly think it is an area of potential weakness for the RF (that could well be a strength).

Tina Brown is showing off her true colours - she is smart enough to know what makes headlines but is oversimplifying big issues to make catchy headlines while showing off her brains by getting to the heart of the issues.
 
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