Sarah's Interviews and Television Appearances

[rmay286]

I did want to state that if there is a personality disorder here-and in the same way that I can't conceive that a sane person can deliberately carry out mass murder I can't believe that a person with a stable mindset can deliberately continue to act in a way that brings disgrace to herself and her family.

I'm not sure I agree with the concept of "personality disorder" in the sense of an illness that can be "treated." Secondly, I don't know Sarah personally and can't diagnose someone I don't know.

But I do agree with the statement that "I can't believe that a person with a stable mindset can deliberately act in a way that brings disgrace to herself and her family." would act like Sarah. I figure Sarah must want a happy life as much as the rest of us do, so why is she choosing to act in a manner that is sabotaging all her chances of living "happily ever after"? Like Dr. Phil apparently said, if Sarah just withdrew from the limelight, so many of her problems would be solved. But she is clinging to public life at all costs, even at the expense of her reputation. It's like Sarah thinks that negative attention is better than no attention.

Perhaps it's like a very delayed identity crisis. I think Sarah is denial and running away from something as fast as she can...and that "something" is the reality that she's no longer royal and is an ordinary person just like everyone else.

 

[Tyger]

For those who saw the Sarah series, did she seem like she was "making a joke" when she talked about her parents? That's not the impression I have from those of you who've discussed it here.

I never talked about the hitting because I never heard it spoken about in the show 'Finding Sarah'.

I never heard it directly - Sarah said something in conversation with Dr Phil about being on the potty and her mother saying that she had to have the devil beaten out of her. That was all I recall. I do not recall that she said her mother did beat her. Dr Phil's reaction was to say that it was not okay for her mother to say that. This was where Sarah laughed and said that that was the way people talked - but Dr Phil emphasized that it was not okay. (Did I miss something here - did she say she got beaten - don't know - were we suppose to infer - my attention may have drifted). That's what I recall - but others should step forward if they saw it differently.

When I initially saw it I interpreted the exchange as two cultures clashing - British norms of speech with one's child decades ago and Dr Phil's heightened American sensibilities around 'child abuse'.

Is it possible that Sarah spoke more directly about this in her book?

 

[AristoCat]

What demons infest this woman that she does this to herself and other people?

 

[Tsaritsa]

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I'm not sure I agree with the concept of "personality disorder" in the sense of an illness that can be "treated." Secondly, I don't know Sarah personally and can't diagnose someone I don't know.

This is what I was trying to get across. PDs can be treated, but the chances of effecting a "cure" are remote and require a mindset along the lines of "I am out of step with the world. The world is not out of step with me" As you so rightly say, withdrawal from public life could solve many of her problems PROVIDED she truly believes the problems are hers rather than the rest of the worlds. It is your next sentence which could prove the sticking point-attention (of any kind) is lifeblood to those with HPD. They NEED to stand out in a crowd, many adopt a flamboyant dresscode which clearly states "I AM HERE," and whilst they eschew "ordinary" as boring, boring represents stability, so however they sabotage and disrupt their lives they maintain an undivided loyalty to whoever or whatever they see as "stability"..........


if Sarah just withdrew from the limelight, so many of her problems would be solved. But she is clinging to public life at all costs, even at the expense of her reputation. It's like Sarah thinks that negative attention is better than no attention.

............so if any of this can be attributed to Sarah, it is highly unlikely that she will accept that.....

.. she's no longer royal and is an ordinary person just like everyone else.

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[Tyger]

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Tsaritsa, its because you somehow got your text within the quote bars - do you see? Place this at the end of the quoted text [/QUOTE.] *without the period* and delete it at the end of your text and your post will show your text as yours - and not a quote - in your post.

For a quote you should have [QUOTE.] *without the period* at the beginning of the quote and [/QUOTE.] *without the period* at the end of the quote (if you're doing it 'manually'). Somehow you got your own post's text inside the quote bars so that the 'computer' did not 'recognize' any text from you - hence it told you there was no message to be sent.

 

[Renata4711]

#543
We must be careful not to demonise another person, especially when we don't know them.

 

[Tsaritsa]

Tyger, thankyou for your help. As you can see, technology is not my strong point!!!

 

[sliver_bic]

#543
We must be careful not to demonise another person, especially when we don't know them.

You got that confused. To demonize someone is to portray them as being bad, wicked. To speak of someone's demons is to talk about the personal issues that affect them negatively.

What demons infest this woman that she does this to herself and other people?

Envy which has led to greed.

 

[Russophile]

What demons infest this woman that she does this to herself and other people?

Don't know but am going to find out. I'm in position 8 of 8 for Sarah's new book for a hold on it at the library.

 

[nascarlucy]

Joking about being beaten as a child is not funny. She either was or wasn't. It's either yes or no on this issue. Sometimes you have to wonder about why she would say this and then say it didn't happen or if this was a way to get attention.

 

[Mermaid1962]

I don't wonder at all about her emotional stability. She seems unstable to me, a person who needs constant approval but does things to make herself a pariah. I can't imagine telling those kinds of stories about my parents and then saying, "Oops! Just kidding, folks." Her sister Jane's comment was very telling, I think. If a person wanted to read between the lines, a person could interpret that Jane thinks that Sarah doesn't see things the way others see them; i.e. she might not be in the "real world."

Joking about being beaten as a child is not funny. She either was or wasn't. It's either yes or no on this issue. Sometimes you have to wonder about her emotional stability at times or if this was a way to get attention.

 

[JennahPc]

I read her book hoping that at the end of it she would have some redeemable qualities but I just ended up feeling like a sucker for spending my $$. It was so self indulgent and all I kept thinking was "what would happen if she had some real problems?" All of her debts are for her personal indulgences and she seems to use her associations with Royalty albeit through her daughters to wipe her debt slate clean. Shame on you Sarah Ferguson! Shame on me for wasting my time and money reading about your silly life.

 

[Meadow]

I actually wonder about that too. What would happen if Sarah did have to face a real problem? Not one of her own making that she can't so simply get out of. I don't think she would cope, she barely copes now. I don't see her issues going away because she has done nothing to fix them or even admit to them. As long as there is someone to bail her out she will continue to spend!

 

[ghost_night554]

Some of you may just bite my head off for this but aren't we being just a tad bit harsh here? Am I the only one who feels sorry for her? I mean yes she's screwed up many times and yes she's been bailed out by Andrew. Honestly I don't think she has a personality disorder. Do I think she has a need for approval yes probably do I think she's changed? Well if we're all being honest here we don't personally know Sarah and maybe she has changed. I mean the way I see it is change doesn't happen overnight it's gradual there are days where it's easy and days which you find it harder. I think was it the View I watched last night I can't remember and she said that the whole her mom being cruel thing was taken so out of context so the Hello magazine interview is not the first time she has said this.. Which honestly I believe her because trust me I have said so many things in my life that have just come out completely wrong especially if the lingo isn't the same between the people communicating. I have huge problems with control so watching Sarah's show actually led me to learn alot alot about myself and so to me I don't see the show as something that was not taken seriously. I dunno why but at the end I felt she was getting better. I don't think she's perfect nor do I think she'll ever be especially in the public eye for so many years I think it's extremely difficult to go back to the way you used to be. I think it'll be a constant struggle for her. I do however think she should continue therapy I think she could only benefit from that. I think the only part that bugged me is her saying that the tape from May 2010 was taken out of context which honestly how was it taken out of context you said what you said you used Andrew's name that's the only part I do not understand. Besides that I feel we're being a little over judgmental. I understand this is a message board and we are allowed to voice our opinions but I believe unless you are in that person's shoes you cannot fully judge them. Also I really don't see her using Bea and Eugenie. Heck I saw nothing wrong with her admitting she's a good person and a good mother. Honestly it's not Sarah has murdered anyone for Christ sake and if we want to point fingers I'd blame Andrew for constantly bailing her out.

Sorry for my enormously long rant but had to get that out.

 

[Mermaid1962]

I don't feel sorry for Sarah; but I do have some compassion for her because I think that there's something deeply wrong. Perhaps something that she can't control. Her interviews have kind of a rehearsed sound to them. She seems to keep saying the same phrases as if almost by rote or that someone has coached her to say things a certain way. Perhaps getting into trouble during the recession threw her off the deep end or something and made her so desperate that she lost any sense of what was right or wrong. The whole denial about the NOTW sting and her part in it shows that she has a real blind spot as to what she did. So is she really convinced that she didn't offer access to Andrew for $500,000 dollars? She's seen the video. If she continues to believe that there was no bag of money, even though that's clearly on the video, she's found some incredible way to deny that to herself. Maybe she just can't face the fact that she stooped so low and has to deny her actions to herself to keep herself together as much as she is.

 

[ghost_night554]

^No like the only thing that bothers me to this day is her whole denial of the NOTW scandal the rest I can look past I guess. From what I saw or felt in the series everytime it's brought up it really bothers her. I've learned when you start talking about something and it makes you uncomfortable it's most likely cause what your being told is true in this case there's not only audio but video of the situation so it's not like she can deny it the evidence is right there! He asked her " does that mean Andrew" and she goes "yeah" so what the heck is she trying to deny besides that I have nothing against her. But that's the one thing that still bothers me.

 

[NotAPretender]

Also I really don't see her using Bea and Eugenie. Heck I saw nothing wrong with her admitting she's a good person and a good mother.

She's not "admitting" she's a good person/good mother, she's boasting about it.

I find that when a person has to boast about such things, they generally are trying to convince themselves by convincing others.

It's trying to force another person to validate that of which you are unsure or refuse to face. That's why it's so crucial to call out the lies and untruths as they happen, and why the "suitcase of money" in the NOTW scandal is so critical to observe. Sarah continues to insist that it simply did not happen, the valise of money. It did, it's on tape, and she was the one walking out with it. Yet she verges on hysterical as she pounds the point that it did not exist.

She continues to pound the point, similarly, that she is a "good mother," a "good person." She is actually very unsure of that herself, but by forcing others to agree with her (like when someone uses the tiresome "know what I mean?" at the end of a sentence to force agreement,) she gains validation that her viewpoint is the "right" viewpoint.

I think bringing your underage children along poolside when you meet your lover and have him roll around on you and you roll around on him within their vision is just about as far from being a "good mother" as is possible, and equally far from being a "good person."

The boasting of her good motherhood should not be coming from her, but from her daughters, in order to have any credibility or believability. Her continually forcing them to validate her as was seen in Finding Sarah is an enormous failing in my opinion. "Good" mothers don't seek the validation of their children to assert their "goodness."

 

[Aliza]

She's not "admitting" she's a good person/good mother, she's boasting about it.

I find that when a person has to boast about such things, they generally are trying to convince themselves by convincing others.

It's trying to force another person to validate that of which you are unsure or refuse to face. That's why it's so crucial to call out the lies and untruths as they happen, and why the "suitcase of money" in the NOTW scandal is so critical to observe. Sarah continues to insist that it simply did not happen, the valise of money. It did, it's on tape, and she was the one walking out with it. Yet she verges on hysterical as she pounds the point that it did not exist.

She continues to pound the point, similarly, that she is a "good mother," a "good person." She is actually very unsure of that herself, but by forcing others to agree with her (like when someone uses the tiresome "know what I mean?" at the end of a sentence to force agreement,) she gains validation that her viewpoint is the "right" viewpoint.

I think bringing your underage children along poolside when you meet your lover and have him roll around on you and you roll around on him within their vision is just about as far from being a "good mother" as is possible, and equally far from being a "good person."

The boasting of her good motherhood should not be coming from her, but from her daughters, in order to have any credibility or believability. Her continually forcing them to validate her as was seen in Finding Sarah is an enormous failing in my opinion. "Good" mothers don't seek the validation of their children to assert their "goodness."

Hear, hear! You said it all.

 

[Princess of Durham]

Some of you may just bite my head off for this but aren't we being just a tad bit harsh here? Am I the only one who feels sorry for her? I mean yes she's screwed up many times and yes she's been bailed out by Andrew. Honestly I don't think she has a personality disorder. Do I think she has a need for approval yes probably do I think she's changed? Well if we're all being honest here we don't personally know Sarah and maybe she has changed. I mean the way I see it is change doesn't happen overnight it's gradual there are days where it's easy and days which you find it harder. I think was it the View I watched last night I can't remember and she said that the whole her mom being cruel thing was taken so out of context so the Hello magazine interview is not the first time she has said this.. Which honestly I believe her because trust me I have said so many things in my life that have just come out completely wrong especially if the lingo isn't the same between the people communicating. I have huge problems with control so watching Sarah's show actually led me to learn alot alot about myself and so to me I don't see the show as something that was not taken seriously. I dunno why but at the end I felt she was getting better. I don't think she's perfect nor do I think she'll ever be especially in the public eye for so many years I think it's extremely difficult to go back to the way you used to be. I think it'll be a constant struggle for her. I do however think she should continue therapy I think she could only benefit from that. I think the only part that bugged me is her saying that the tape from May 2010 was taken out of context which honestly how was it taken out of context you said what you said you used Andrew's name that's the only part I do not understand. Besides that I feel we're being a little over judgmental. I understand this is a message board and we are allowed to voice our opinions but I believe unless you are in that person's shoes you cannot fully judge them. Also I really don't see her using Bea and Eugenie. Heck I saw nothing wrong with her admitting she's a good person and a good mother. Honestly it's not Sarah has murdered anyone for Christ sake and if we want to point fingers I'd blame Andrew for constantly bailing her out.

Sorry for my enormously long rant but had to get that out.

Your compassion is commendable however ..... Sarah is 50/51 and I have the impression that you are much, much younger. She has had plenty of opportunity to to see herself realistically and she refuses to do so and in fact keeps doing things which are NOT in her own self interest It is far past time for Sarah to grow up.

 

[ghost_night554]

Your compassion is commendable however ..... Sarah is 50/51 and I have the impression that you are much, much younger. She has had plenty of opportunity to to see herself realistically and she refuses to do so and in fact keeps doing things which are NOT in her own self interest It is far past time for Sarah to grow up.

Thank you and your right I am much younger then her. I just turned 20

She's not "admitting" she's a good person/good mother, she's boasting about it.

I find that when a person has to boast about such things, they generally are trying to convince themselves by convincing others.

It's trying to force another person to validate that of which you are unsure or refuse to face. That's why it's so crucial to call out the lies and untruths as they happen, and why the "suitcase of money" in the NOTW scandal is so critical to observe. Sarah continues to insist that it simply did not happen, the valise of money. It did, it's on tape, and she was the one walking out with it. Yet she verges on hysterical as she pounds the point that it did not exist.

She continues to pound the point, similarly, that she is a "good mother," a "good person." She is actually very unsure of that herself, but by forcing others to agree with her (like when someone uses the tiresome "know what I mean?" at the end of a sentence to force agreement,) she gains validation that her viewpoint is the "right" viewpoint.

I think bringing your underage children along poolside when you meet your lover and have him roll around on you and you roll around on him within their vision is just about as far from being a "good mother" as is possible, and equally far from being a "good person."

The boasting of her good motherhood should not be coming from her, but from her daughters, in order to have any credibility or believability. Her continually forcing them to validate her as was seen in Finding Sarah is an enormous failing in my opinion. "Good" mothers don't seek the validation of their children to assert their "goodness."

I see what your trying to say I particularly agree with your argument on the whole NOTW scandal and the part I've highlighted. Though I don't don't doubt Bea and Eugenie love Sarah I got the small impression from Bea's convo with Sarah on the last episode that living with her is very difficult for them. They do seem to want to support their mother but I got the impression that it's getting harder for them and it's wearing them down. No doubt I'd understand them completely. I got a headache just watching some of the episodes and I mean no disrespect to Sarah.

What I do think needs to happen though is for Sarah to continue counseling especially in the area about money. Cause IMO right now that's her biggest problem. She can't allow the money to run out again. After that then she can deal with her addiction to approval. She needs to lay low for a while before she jumps into anything huge.

 

[sndral]

Ghostnight, I am much closer in age to Sarah than you, and I have raised a child. A good parent helps their child to launch themselves into life with confidence and the skills needed to succeed. Sarah, instead, is a leach, a parasite, a vampire, sucking off her daughters for their reflected glory to feed her own 'need' for acclaim. In doing so she not only fails as a parent, she also makes their lives immeasurable harder because her public disgraces are tied, unfairly, to her daughters. She also often speaks 'for' them ('B & E feel this way' 'B & E are this' "B & E did" etc.) she has absolutely no right to speak 'for' her daughters - she can speak for herself and how she feels and what she does, but no one else, a basic concept she can't seem to grasp. We've seen articles w/ Sarah's claims about how Andrew knows the CforA scandal isn't true, how Diana would have 'felt' about the wedding (never mind that Diana had frozen her out over 1 yr. before her death) how Catherine will do in her new role (never mind that Sarah has never met her,) etc.. She gets away w/ it because the RF refuses to wallow in the mud w/ her - but it is particularly hard, IMO, for her daughters.

 

[Osipi]

What I do think needs to happen though is for Sarah to continue counseling especially in the area about money. Cause IMO right now that's her biggest problem. She can't allow the money to run out again. After that then she can deal with her addiction to approval. She needs to lay low for a while before she jumps into anything huge.

With her "Finding Sarah" series and release of the book in the not so distant past along with fees paid for interviews in various media forms, the money to Sarah seems to be rolling in. The only upcoming possibility I've heard of Sarah doing is some Big Brother program which I imagine will pay handsomely too. I would hazard to guess that with her debts cleared and money seeming rolling into her bank account, Sarah feels all's well with the world. She seems to think in the now with little thought of what may be down the road. What I don't think she is seeing that over the years she's gradually been sliding from the A list (as a royal family member) down the alphabet in the public's eye and this trend is most likely to continue. The stark realization is going to happen sooner or later that she'll wake up and find there's absolutely nothing "huge" for her to jump into and there is very little interest in her or her "brand" to sustain her.

 

[Princess of Durham]

Rather like the proverbial old actor who continually calls his management to see if there is any work available for him. You are correct, IMO, again Sarah doesn't seem to even entertain the idea that people may/will lose interest in her, let alone actively dislike her. In this case I am thinking in terms of the US, I think she has probably already burned her bridges in the UK. As others have said, the really sad part is the shadows it casts on her daughters and even her former husband.

 

[NotAPretender]

I think that the money hunger is a symptom, not a disease.

To fix the money hunger, she's got to go a helluva lot deeper than Dr Phil. And I think she lacks the courage to go deep.

 

[AristoCat]

Sarah, instead, is a leach, a parasite, a vampire, sucking off her daughters for their reflected glory to feed her own 'need' for acclaim. In doing so she not only fails as a parent, she also makes their lives immeasurable harder because her public disgraces are tied, unfairly, to her daughters. She also often speaks 'for' them ('B & E feel this way' 'B & E are this' "B & E did" etc.) she has absolutely no right to speak 'for' her daughters - she can speak for herself and how she feels and what she does, but no one else, a basic concept she can't seem to grasp

I am so hopeful that after the princesses get married, they really cut more ties with their mother all the more. I honestly suspect that Fergie doesn't want them to make a nice marriage because then she would be left behind, unable to use them since they would have lives of their own.

 

[Russophile]

I think that the money hunger is a symptom, not a disease.

To fix the money hunger, she's got to go a helluva lot deeper than Dr Phil. And I think she lacks the courage to go deep.

I think you're right. Cuz if she goes deeper, she's got to confront all her uglies and that's not where she wants to go. Pity, could clear a lot of crap up.

 

[ghost_night554]

Ghostnight, I am much closer in age to Sarah than you, and I have raised a child. A good parent helps their child to launch themselves into life with confidence and the skills needed to succeed. Sarah, instead, is a leach, a parasite, a vampire, sucking off her daughters for their reflected glory to feed her own 'need' for acclaim. In doing so she not only fails as a parent, she also makes their lives immeasurable harder because her public disgraces are tied, unfairly, to her daughters. She also often speaks 'for' them ('B & E feel this way' 'B & E are this' "B & E did" etc.) she has absolutely no right to speak 'for' her daughters - she can speak for herself and how she feels and what she does, but no one else, a basic concept she can't seem to grasp. We've seen articles w/ Sarah's claims about how Andrew knows the CforA scandal isn't true, how Diana would have 'felt' about the wedding (never mind that Diana had frozen her out over 1 yr. before her death) how Catherine will do in her new role (never mind that Sarah has never met her,) etc.. She gets away w/ it because the RF refuses to wallow in the mud w/ her - but it is particularly hard, IMO, for her daughters.

I'm obviously not a mother but I sorta see where your going with this. I don't think she's leeching onto them but I do understand the frustration of her speaking on their behalf or Diana's behalf or Andrew's for example. I know when my parents speak on my behalf it drives me bonkers cause half the time that's not really how I feel. I do agree also a mother should help her children grown and succeed. I can't speak for what goes on behind closed doors. None of us know their personal relationship but I do hope Bea and Eugenie can see the wrong doings of their mother and not follow down that path.

With her "Finding Sarah" series and release of the book in the not so distant past along with fees paid for interviews in various media forms, the money to Sarah seems to be rolling in. The only upcoming possibility I've heard of Sarah doing is some Big Brother program which I imagine will pay handsomely too. I would hazard to guess that with her debts cleared and money seeming rolling into her bank account, Sarah feels all's well with the world. She seems to think in the now with little thought of what may be down the road. What I don't think she is seeing that over the years she's gradually been sliding from the A list (as a royal family member) down the alphabet in the public's eye and this trend is most likely to continue. The stark realization is going to happen sooner or later that she'll wake up and find there's absolutely nothing "huge" for her to jump into and there is very little interest in her or her "brand" to sustain her.

Well IMO she's gone into overkill now if she can just go away from a good year or so I think it would not only be good for her but for us. I think she should focus on herself and sort her problems out. Cause I can tell you this you cannot solve a problem like this in a few months it takes years. It takes time and now that she's shared her journey payed off her debt etc she needs to lay low she can't continue this over exposure.

I also have to add I would never want the princess' to cut their mother off IMO that would be a bit too cruel it's not as if Sarah murdered anyone but I do agree that her issues with money have to go deeper then Dr. Phill or Suze Orman which is why I suggested she continue therapy and lay low.

I'm sure some of you may see my opinions "soft" but like I said earlier who the heck am I to judge her we don't live in her life every day we can't know what it's like. We don't even know what her progress is like now, only time will tell. Until then I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Mermaid1962]

The money area, yes, and also the honesty area. She keeps mentioning "self-sabotage", which she also talked about in MY STORY. Saying that she self-sabotages is IMO a softer way for her to say that she's done things that are wrong and, in fact, immoral. People have used the term narcissistic to describe Sarah; and I think that might be true to a degree. For example, she has a need to be the center of attention, to be a celebrity, to impress people by spending money on them, and she says things like "I'm a good mother." The thing about narcissists is that they're terrified of revealing their true selves, and I think that's something that Sarah will have to do: confront her true self as to the selling of Andrew and the bag of money. I don't think that she'll be able to genuinely move forward until she confronts that aspect of her personality (dishonestly and denial) and puts it to rest.

What I do think needs to happen though is for Sarah to continue counseling especially in the area about money. Cause IMO right now that's her biggest problem. She can't allow the money to run out again. After that then she can deal with her addiction to approval. She needs to lay low for a while before she jumps into anything huge.

 

[sliver_bic]

he thing about narcissists is that they're terrified of revealing their true selves, and I think that's something that Sarah will have to do: confront her true self as to the selling of Andrew and the bag of money. I don't think that she'll be able to genuinely move forward until she confronts that aspect of her personality (dishonestly and denial) and puts it to rest.

We've talked about this before. Confronting herself with the truth might destroy her. At her age and level of denial I think it's going to have to be Andrew and the girls to bring her out of it. Specifically in private.

 

[Mermaid1962]

Yes, agreed. I'd like to see her go out of public view for awhile, get treatment, and then be a dignified, scandal-free mother-of-the-bride someday.

We've talked about this before. Confronting herself with the truth might destroy her. At her age and level of denial I think it's going to have to be Andrew and the girls to bring her out of it. Specifically in private.