Prince Harry Current Events 9: November 2005-January 2006

[regardez]

Oh, I've heard that the Queen Mum has favored William since they were young. (Back when William was the basher and Harry was the quiet subdued one). I suppose there is no way to prove this, of course, but that's just what I've read and I found it strange.

 

[gaggleofcrazypeople]

That makes sense. After all, William is the heir and Harry is the spare.

 

[Skydragon]

I have always thought that Harry looked more like his cousins on the Spencer side of the family. I haven't seen photos in ages but I remember seeing them at Diana's funeral. It would be interesting to see current photos of the Spencer cousins to compare.

I'm sure that we can all agree that Diana was his mother!!!!

 

[ysbel]

Oh, I've heard that the Queen Mum has favored William since they were young. (Back when William was the basher and Harry was the quiet subdued one). I suppose there is no way to prove this, of course, but that's just what I've read and I found it strange.

The Queen Mum has always favored the eldest son. Charles was her favorite grandson although we know that Andrew, Anne, Edward, Lady Sarah, and Viscount Linley all couldn't be illegitimate.

It's the same with William and Harry.

 

[ysbel]

Sooo suddenly Hewitts says that his affair with Di started in 1982? How interesting... I guess we will soon be graced with a new updated and improved version of his master piece A Princess in Love (one got to pay one's taxes, and Bentleys don't come cheap).
PLEASE folks, get real. Jamie sold about everything there was to be sold about DI.

Well having started this thread on the tangent of Harry's paternity, it really wasn't my purpose to debate whether Harry is Charles' son or not.

I think its ridiculous to say he is Hewitt's son; I just posed the question because it appeared that the average Brit thinks its obvious that he is Hewitt's son and if that's what they think, that has to have implications for Harry

It's one thing for a few nuts to say it, quite another for the average man on the street to casually pass it off in a conversation over beer in a pub like its a known fact.

Any Brits out there who can give some insight on what the average bloke thinks?

 

[BeatrixFan]

Any Brits out there who can give some insight on what the average bloke thinks?

The average person thinks that Harry is Hewitt's son.

 

[Warren]

The average person thinks that Harry is Hewitt's son.

Are you now saying you're "average"?

 

[lamass]

i think she is saying that people who aren't hard core royalty fans think that harry looks alot like hewitt. more like hewitt than he should to be a son of charles

 

[Skydragon]

Well having started this thread on the tangent of Harry's paternity, it really wasn't my purpose to debate whether Harry is Charles' son or not.
Any Brits out there who can give some insight on what the average bloke thinks?

Joe on the street in Scotland and England, think he is Hewitts son.

 

[BeatrixFan]

Are you now saying you're "average"?

Oh darling, far from it. But that seems the general opinion. That Harry is Hewitt's son - I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve that.

 

[ysbel]

LOL. BTW I love your new avatar BeatrixFan.

Back to Harry, that's got to cause a problem for him. Any guesses to whether Charles will actually try to set the record straight as he's done recently with other things?

 

[BeatrixFan]

The Royal Family won't bow to public opinion on that one. I can't see them having a paternity test on 'The Trisha Show'.

(Isn't the avatar just gorgeous!)

 

[Australian]

the royal family will never do a paternity test in my opinon, they dont want to open a can of worms (not saying it would be scandalous results) and would rather keep the peace as it is.

 

[BeatrixFan]

the royal family will never do a paternity test in my opinon

Not in public but I'll bet my David Beckham calendar that they've done one in private.

 

[Australian]

Possibly, but why would they want to do one? it cant change anything can it? If he is found to be Hewitts son, what difference would it make? He wont get any royal title taken away or anything.

 

[BeatrixFan]

It could make a lot of difference if the throne came his way. It wouldn't be the first time a basket has taken the throne but Harry over Anne? I don't think so.

 

[ysbel]

Not in public but I'll bet my David Beckham calendar that they've done one in private.

You have a David Beckham calendar? No one in the states knows who he is but there's a girl in our art group that draws copies from magazine photos of him and she's really good.

I just think that if Charles is going to sue the Daily Mail for publishing his inane comments about Chinese ministers (its all pretty innocuous anyway), he should be willing to take this on because it has more lasting impact on Harry.

I mean does anyone here who knows a lot about the British royals think that Harry is Hewitt's son? You'd have to believe that Hewitt and Diana got together in 1982 right after William's birth. That's pushing it as far as I'm concerned.

If they've done the tests and its proven that Harry is Charles' son, there seems to me very little harm and much to be gained by releasing the results. I just can't imagine a scenario wherein Harry is Hewitt's son.

 

[BeatrixFan]

You have a David Beckham calendar? No one in the states knows who he is but there's a girl in our art group that draws copies from magazine photos of him and she's really good.

Thought I'd got away with that one! I have indeed - for 2006. Fun for every month of the year.

I think Harry is Charles's son - to be frank, the similarity between Harry and Hewitt means nothing. But stranger things have been covered up. And we'll never know the truth - but it's terrible that Harry will go through life being known as 'Harry Windsor - Or is he?'

 

[pollyemma]

It could make a lot of difference if the throne came his way. It wouldn't be the first time a basket has taken the throne but Harry over Anne? I don't think so.

well, Anne is one thing. but Peter"scarface' Phillips? i'm not sure that's much of an improvement.

Besides Harry is Charles' son. Hewitt has openly said that many times. he and Di didnt get together until after Harry's birth. so it doesnt matter.

btw, i think it's really beastly of everyone to keep going on about this. i'm sure its very hurtful to Charles and Harry that people keep saying that.

 

[BeatrixFan]

i think it's really beastly of everyone to keep going on about this. i'm sure its very hurtful to Charles and Harry that people keep saying that.

It is. I totally agree. But sadly, just as the conspiracy theories still surround Monroe, Kennedy, Prince George, Diana and the two Princes in the Tower - it'll carry on and on. One day, the press will go a step too far and they'll make it abundantly clear that Harry is Charles's son.

 

[Australian]

btw, i think it's really beastly of everyone to keep going on about this. i'm sure its very hurtful to Charles and Harry that people keep saying that.

Yes you are right about that, sometimes we forget the royals perspective of this and other things

 

[pollyemma]

. they'll make it abundantly clear that Harry is Charles's son.

how will they do that?

 

[Warren]

If they've done the tests and its proven that Harry is Charles' son, there seems to me very little harm and much to be gained by releasing the results. I just can't imagine a scenario wherein Harry is Hewitt's son.

Two problems with this course of action: it sets a precedent ("OK that's Harry's. So where's William's?"), which means every Royal birth will have to be followed by a public release of maternity tests. Otherwise people will ask "why hasn't the test been released for him/her?" Almost as bad as having a government minister present to witness the live birth to ensure no substitution is made.

And secondly, no matter what the result of the paternity test, some would just claim it's been faked, there's a cover-up, a conspiracy etc etc, and nothing would be resolved.
The "Real or Fake?" issue would become a story in itself.

Best to leave it alone.

 

[BeatrixFan]

I imagine the same way Norway have handled the claims that Olav wasn't Haakon's son - issue a statement saying that they have no reason to believe he is Hewitt's son and that his father isn't the Prince of Wales.

 

[ysbel]

Two problems with this course of action: it sets a precedent ("OK that's Harry's. So where's William's?"), which means every Royal birth will have to be followed by a public release of maternity tests. Otherwise people will ask "why hasn't the test been released for him/her?" Almost as bad as having a government minister present to witness the live birth to ensure no substitution is made.

And secondly, no matter what the result of the paternity test, some would just claim it's been faked, there's a cover-up, a conspiracy etc etc, and nothing would be resolved.
The "Real or Fake?" issue would become a story in itself.

Best to leave it alone.

Hi Warren, I don't see a rash of paternity tests if they just release Harry's. William's paternity has never been questioned by any camp. The only other royal paternities that were questioned were Andrew and Edward but most people aren't going around saying its an absolute fact that Andrew is someone else's son.

You're right, some people are going to believe Harry is Hewitt's son no matter what but I don't think the average 'bloke' on the street is going to dismiss a DNA test and its the average bloke that doesn't necessarily follow royals but doesn't demand a republic either that the Royal Family has to be concerned with. Its the attitude of this group, I think, that will determine the fate of the monarchy. Its the same way with the swing vote in politics.

With Olav and Haakon, I believe both were dead at the time and there is something unsettling about digging up bodies to get the DNA samples for something that happened a 100 years ago.

 

[pollyemma]

I imagine the same way Norway have handled the claims that Olav wasn't Haakon's son - issue a statement saying that they have no reason to believe he is Hewitt's son and that his father isn't the Prince of Wales.

this rumor has sort of been simmering for years. if it suddenly began dominating the news (the way the Norwegian rumor did) they might do something like but right now i think there's no need whatsoever. issuing a statement would only draw more attention.

besides, what greater proof can there be that Harry is Charles' son than the sincere affection which we see between them whenever they are together?

 

[ysbel]

besides, what greater proof can there be that Harry is Charles' son than the sincere affection which we see between them whenever they are together?

For a regular family none, but the whole premise for a royal house is the crown passing from one generation to the next following the same bloodline that also passes down through generations. If they want to change that premise that's well and good. Then when a couple fails to have a heir they can just adopt like other couples that can't have children themselves.

But somehow I can't see the royal families being this progressive.

 

[branchg]

I can't believe anyone could possibly believe Diana would give birth to a child who was not her husband's?! Do you think she was that stupid?

Harry is Charles' son and there is no doubt about it.

 

[pollyemma]

Do you think she was that stupid?

please clarify what you mean by that question.

 

[BeatrixFan]

Do you think she was that stupid?

Nothing would suprise me.