Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -


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This will be interesting to follow…

If it can be proven that Mette-Marit has helped Marius ”white wash” evidence (wich it is not yet) then they are in serious trouble…

That’s the most pressing thing here to me… The telephone call to Marius is not that important to me as Marius clearly accepted to get arrested and met the police at the agreed place…

M-M may very well have been informed by a police protection officer or by the head of security at the palace…

But did she hastily clean Marius house that day and if so of what and why ? These are the most pressing questions here…..

If we even want to know the answers 😒
 
Incredible. If this is true, that MM helped her criminal son cover up his traces, she has to step down. Excuses won't be enough. Too ill to perform duties, but able to clean her son's house?
Poor Harald, after a life of service this is what he's left with.
 
Incredible. If this is true, that MM helped her criminal son cover up his traces, she has to step down. Excuses won't be enough. Too ill to perform duties, but able to clean her son's house?
Poor Harald, after a life of service this is what he's left with.
In this context "ryddet" most likely translates more as "clear out" than "clean". As in Mette-Marit didn't mop the floors but cleared out things from Marius' house.
I do agree in your assessment. A future queen can't be suspected of hindering a criminal investigation.
With this, the surrogate case and her association with Jeffrey Epstein one begins to wonder about her level of common sense, her moral judgement and if she really understands what people expect from a member of the Royal family.
 
Nora Haukland's lawyer John Christian Elden said about VG's information to Se og Hør:
- If this is true, it is sensational, since the police at the same time decide to arrest in order to prevent the destruction of evidence.
Se og Hør's royal expert Caroline Vagle read VG's new information about Mette-Marit with disbelief.
- If this is true, I find it shocking. Simply very poorly thought out. I can certainly understand her instinct as a mother, but as a crown princess she should stay far away. This matter will never end, and is very serious for all parties involved, including the royal household. I also think it is unfortunate that the Palace makes itself unavailable in connection with this matter.

It seems that the media is tired about the slowness of the investigation of Marius' case.

Nettavisen's columnist Jan Bøhler, former member of the Storting (Parliament) for 16 years, who also was the deputy chairman of Storting's justice committee for two parliamentary terms and worked a lot with criminal gangs and child and youth crime, writes at his column among other things:
It has now become impossible for the Royal Palace to continue to remain silent in this case. There is no turning back.
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Press manager Unni Grøndal in the Oslo police confirmed to Aftenposten that Marius currently doesn't have a driver's license.
According to Aftenposten, it must have happened after an incident in the city in August, only a few weeks after he was arrested by the police and charged with bodily harm and damage. Mette-Marit alerted the health service about the incident. It was this that led to Marius being stripped of his driver's licence.
Guri Varpe, communications manager at the Palace, has not yet answered Aftenposten's questions about the matter on Thursday morning.

NRK has looked up Marius in the Public Road Administration's driving license register. There it emerges that he has no valid driver's licence. He has previously held driving licenses for motorcycles, light motorcycles, medium-heavy motorcycles, mopeds, cars and vans, according to NRK's investigations.
 
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In this context "ryddet" most likely translates more as "clear out" than "clean". As in Mette-Marit didn't mop the floors but cleared out things from Marius' house.
I do agree in your assessment. A future queen can't be suspected of hindering a criminal investigation.
With this, the surrogate case and her association with Jeffrey Epstein one begins to wonder about her level of common sense, her moral judgement and if she really understands what people expect from a member of the Royal family.
"Ryddet" means tidy up...
 
There are people who are socio- or even psychopaths who simply are this way. Most don't turn murderous criminals, but they could at any moment. They are manipulative and without remorse. And that's what makes them so scary. Especially if they are loved relatives or part of a close-knit family. I don't think we can understand what life has been in the RF if Marius is really one of those. Especially as MM has to feel guilty, as it is known (IIRC) that drugs can do that to an unborn baby.
As for her to "tidy up", she probably just helped her son to pack a few things for prison. If she is such a helicopter mum, she surely thought he needed her to organize that and that he should not be seen in the prison institution without properly packed things. It was stupid from here, but I believe she wanted to do the "right" thing and didn't realise how it would look if presented that way.
 
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Mette-Marit may have been trying to protect and help her son. But there are things a crown princess and future queen cannot do.
I believe this is a difficult one for Mette-Marit.
The Royal House has to say something about this situation. Everything needs to be clarified.
 
Mette-Marit may have been trying to protect and help her son. But there are things a crown princess and future queen cannot do.
I believe this is a difficult one for Mette-Marit.
The Royal House has to say something about this situation. Everything needs to be clarified.

Yes, the pressure from the media is getting stronger and stronger. I'm sure many Norwegians have questions very similar to Nettavisen's columnist Jan Bøhler's six questions, which are at the article I posted previously today. The Royal House can't remain silent forever.
The members of the Royal family and the staff of the Royal House must be quite horrified every morning when they open the news "what are they writing now".

And now Marius' lawyer Øyvind Bratlien comments to Dagbladet about Marius' driver's license:
- There has been great concern at times about Høiby's health and endurance. The case and the accusations have been an enormous burden for him. The prejudgment is massive. The media pressure is indescribable. For his own sake, both weapons and driver's license are therefore no longer in his possession. The driver's license was taken on the recommendation of a doctor. Høiby has agreed to both parts and contributed to it.
 
Wow, this development may prove to be the most significant thing that has happened yet! Could MM be compelled to testify in court? Could the police bring charges against her?

But, MM could have been removing things not directly related to Marius' situation. For instance, if he had family photos that they wouldn't want to go public or something along those lines, I can imagine her wanting to get those out before they became part of a police investigation. (Especially if the younger children could be affected.)

Who knows?
 
Wow, this development may prove to be the most significant thing that has happened yet! Could MM be compelled to testify in court? Could the police bring charges against her?

But, MM could have been removing things not directly related to Marius' situation. For instance, if he had family photos that they wouldn't want to go public or something along those lines, I can imagine her wanting to get those out before they became part of a police investigation. (Especially if the younger children could be affected.)

Who knows?

Yes, but if it is true, that Mette-Marit went to Marius' house, it causes many questions.
Like this PR strategist writes:
"Questions are no longer just about what a more peripheral member of the royal family has done, and what the Royal House thinks about it. Now questions can also legitimately be about what a central person in the Royal House has done. "Where was Mette-Marit when the phone was broken?" And so on."

Mette-Marit has chosen her son over the Kingdom
 
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Yes, but if it is true, that Mette-Marit went to Marius' house, it causes many questions.
Like this PR strategist writes:
"Questions are no longer just about what a more peripheral member of the royal family has done, and what the Royal House thinks about it. Now questions can also legitimately be about what a central person in the Royal House has done. "Where was Mette-Marit when the phone was broken?" And so on."

Mette-Marit has chosen her son over the Kingdom
Exactly! It draws her in further, and that is a disaster. Even if she was just being a protective mother, it's bad news.

Two other things occurred to me. First, how do they know she cleaned out his house? I doubt Marius would have said, "My mom came over to collect everything incriminating." MM wouldn't have had a reason (that we know of) to tell the police, either.

Someone would have had to witness it or make it up. Are her protection officers leaking to police? What's going on?

The other thing is it now makes a lot more sense how Marius had Bratlien's phone number. I can imagine the police calling the palace or the CP couple's office, which got Bratlien's name and number from their own legal counsel. MM probably relayed that info to Marius when she went to his house.
 
In this context "ryddet" most likely translates more as "clear out" than "clean". As in Mette-Marit didn't mop the floors but cleared out things from Marius' house.

"Ryddet" means tidy up...

Thank you for the clarifications. I continue to wonder how the police came to learn that the Crown Princess had tidied or removed items from her son's house. Was she accompanied by bodyguards who subsequently disclosed her actions to the police? Was the house under surveillance?

Press manager Unni Grøndal in the Oslo police confirmed to Aftenposten that Marius currently doesn't have a driver's license.
According to Aftenposten, it must have happened after an incident in the city in August, only a few weeks after he was arrested by the police and charged with bodily harm and damage. Mette-Marit alerted the health service about the incident. It was this that led to Marius being stripped of his driver's licence.
Guri Varpe, communications manager at the Palace, has not yet answered Aftenposten's questions about the matter on Thursday morning.

I wonder whether we will be receiving more leaks about this "incident" that led to the loss of his driving privileges. It seems that on this occasion Crown Princess Mette-Marit acted responsibly.

Wow, this development may prove to be the most significant thing that has happened yet! Could MM be compelled to testify in court? Could the police bring charges against her?

Technically, the police may bring charges against any royal, but under Article 37 of the Constitution, they may be immune from being tried or compelled to testify by the courts.

There is a notable absence of clarity as to whom is covered by Article 37. It is indisputable that Article 37 applies to Haakon, but less clear whether it applies to Mette-Marit.

See this thread for information about Article 37.


Possible immunity aside, tampering with evidence is a crime under Section 160 of the Penal Code (I express no opinion about whether the Crown Princess or Marius has done so).

 
VG has got information:
- The Oslo police district notified the bodyguard service (PST) about the arrest. We routinely notify of all circumstances that may affect the security arrangements around the Royal Palace. The police's situation center in the Directorate of Police was also routinely notified, says police inspector Martin Strand to VG.
When the police made contact with Marius by phone at 15.37, it was agreed that they should meet outside the royal gates, at Jansløkka school nearby.
There he was arrested at 16.10 and taken to the detention center. Upon arrest, the police seized his mobile phone, which at the time was broken, switched off and missing a SIM card.
When the police called him 33 minutes earlier, the phone worked so they could talk to him.

 
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