Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -


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I just think that if you are charged with a crime you get a lawyer specialising in what you are charged with, if you are charged with taxfraud you probably do not get a divorce lawyer…if you are changed with a drug crime you get a lawyer who knows about that.

Nora Haukelands lawyer certainly has deffended some of the worst criminals in Norway and hardly any lawyer is more known than him in Norway, should she not use him because of who he has deffended?

Its also not usual to sit in prison before you are convicted, had Marius been in prison since August and until his sentencing one would risk that he spent more time in prison than what he would get as a sentence which is very unfortunate. If you are not a flight risk, and not dangerous etc and the crime you are changed with has an expected sentence of less than ten years you usually do not sit in prison until you are sentenced.
 
Sentenced by the public opinion? I have no doubt that Marius is on a very wrong path, I also think that he deserves to be judged like any other citizen in that situation. The only reason all this is making such a scandal is that he’s the step son of Haakon. A position he didn’t chose.

Yes, but it also goes both ways.
If one of us took out a Royal guard position with our speeding car, it would have made international news. With Marius it was swept under the rug only because he is the step son of the Crown Prince.
 
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Se og Hør is just milking this for everything is worth 😠
I agree…

While i fully agree with the lion part of his ”letter”, the Chief editor of a Gossip Magazine that survives solely on ripping famous peoples private lives apart, is not in the strongest position to speak on behalf of the general public, in any way or form…
 
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In 2017, Mette-Marit wrote an open letter about Marius to the press. Now, seven years later, Se og Hør's editor-in-chief Ulf André Andersen writes a letter to her son. Andersen believes Marius deserves unconditional imprisonment. It's an interesting letter to read with Google translator.

Some things about the letter:
We left you alone, and although rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. We did just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best.
I don't know if your friends have given life-wise advice or if you have all laughed boyishly and mockingly at both the offended, interrogation, restraining order, weapons, drugs and arrest. But I hope the seriousness has sunk in.
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I agree wholeheartedly with this open letter by the editor. Especially the part where he admits the press failed, by ignoring rumors and reports about Marius behavior. - IMO had they written earlier about Marius, that might have helped getting him back on track.
Sentenced by the public opinion? I have no doubt that Marius is on a very wrong path, I also think that he deserves to be judged like any other citizen in that situation. The only reason all this is making such a scandal is that he’s the step son of Haakon. A position he didn’t chose.
Sentenced by the public opinion? - No, sentenced by himself. The public opinion can only react to what they have been told and what they see (sometimes in person, for those who frequent the night life in Oslo).
The picture Marius has managed to paint of himself ain't pretty, to put it mildly! He hasn't even bothered to try and improve that painting by showing something approaching a semblance of remorse, by going into rehab ASAP, by taking personal responsibility, by keeping low. - It's only about now he has been finally persuaded (I dare say) to go into rehab. Fat chance he'll do more than the bare minimum.
As the editor basically said, Marius lawyer is used to defending people who already have a shady reputation and for whom the main purpose is to get of as lightly as possible and reputation be damned. Other lawyers may have been just as concerned about Marius reputation, because after all Marius is, officially, a first-time offender. (Apart from the fine for possession of drugs for personal use, I.e. a very small amount.) In such a case reputation really does matter.

No, Marius did not chose the life he got. No one has.
But Marius enjoyed the perks of that life, without the responsibilities and without the public scrutiny that Ingrid and Magnus get. He had the opportunity for the best education, regardless of field, that Norway can provide. He lived a luxurious life, that most can only dream of. He was loved, that's for certain. The NRF have many faults but they are obviously very much a loving close-knit family. He did not need to work for a living, still don't. He did not need to pay rent (or he simply would not be able to pay the rent for his very generous home at Skaugum.)
Marius has never been in want of anything - except - discipline.
He was failed in the respect and he has never learned it by himself.

Unfortunately Marius has never been allowed to grow as a person. He has never been allowed to overcome. He has never been allowed to accomplish. - It very much appears that he has always been excused, always been told it isn't his fault.
The best thing for Marius IMO would have been six months on a school ship when he was 16-20 years old. Because there is no entitlement on a yardarm 30 meters above deck in the middle of the Atlantic. Instead up there he would have grown and found discipline, self-respect and pride in himself as well as empathy for others. Accomplishment.
 
Very valid point's , kalnel ,I agree that the selection of an attorney with a history of defending , um ,,, shall we say "dodgy individuals" ,may allow the NRF some distance from some of the inevitable fallout . However they still have to negotiate the fact that for almost a decade Marius has been acting with impunity in illegal activities , with known convicted criminals on NRF grounds , knowing that nothing will be reported in the press , and no I do not excuse the responsibility of the press in this matter . Perhaps if Marius's actions , addictions , associations had been made public before his admitted abuse of his then partner , then maybe he would have taken his therapy "more seriously" ?

Who has to negotiate it? It's not Marius' problem that no one reported on or punished his past activities. You can't expect his family to report him to the police or media, either.

Yes, allowing a criminal element into the royal estate was alarming, but that isn't ultimately a "Marius issue." It's a question of how the CP couple and their advisers handle security. Whether they ever discuss that publicly is an open question.

Some might say that the police should have been more aggressive in punishing him for bad behavior in the past, but he's a little fish in a pond with big criminal fish swimming around. Arresting him previously might have looked like they were targeting him unfairly and wasting resources on this nepo-baby.

As for the media, they make their decisions based on what sells papers, not what is good for Marius. I found the editor's letter today completely disingenuous. He doesn't care what happens to Marius; he cares whether this sensational story continues to attract readers.

One of the editor's comments (translated via Google) was especially obnoxious. When describing the media's response to MM's letter asking them to leave Marius alone, he said: "We in the press dimmed the spotlights. We left you alone, and even though rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. You must be allowed to express yourself, just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best."

So, if only the Norwegian media had hounded this guy and taken his freedom away, he wouldn't have gotten in this mess? What nonsense!
 
Yes, but it also goes both ways.
If one of us took out a Royal guard position with our speeding car, it would have made international news. With Marius it was swept under the rug only because he is the step son of the Crown Prince.
But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.
 
But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.
Bragging about something is admitting something, isn't it?
And if you look at a photo over Skaugum you can see the sentry box at the bend of a two-lane road. So I'd say they had just cause to brag about their drive and near miss.
 
But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.

I will have to look up the articles again but there is a picture of his car taken out a fence. He and his buddies posted about it
 
I think everything there is to be said about Marius has been said!! It's time for the prosecution to bring action against Marius and let the court litigate and pass sentencing against him or close the case.
 
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