HI&RH Archduke Imre of Austria & Miss Kathleen Walker: 8 September 2012

[MidnightSonatta]

ugh...hummer limo are so hideous. They should've just left in a regular car.

 

[Mariel]

It is possible that Maria Teresa and Henri may still be said to be in mourning. Stephanie's mother was buried only a short time ago, and of course Stephanie may need extra help to make her transition to Berg, and help. Yes it would have been nice if Tessy were there.
Alexandra's skirt was too short--looked nice but did not look like the dress of a princess in her twenties. They don't look in their own mirrors. Clare, the friend of Felix, looked lovely and her dress was also lovely and knee length. in her high heels she towered over Prince Louis.

 

[HRHHermione]

I just re-read the Royal Musings blog post with the photos. A stretch Hummer... really??

That's tacky. Stretch Hummers are for Mississippi proms, not for royal weddings.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

Somehow, a stretch Hummer seems to be the most perfect possible vehicle for these two...yes.

The more I think about it, it's an inspired choice of transportation for Katie and Imre!

Princess Sibilla looked perfect as always, but Alexandra's outfit was waay too short for Church and someone should have told her that.

I am not at all surprised that Henri and MT and Guillaume and Stephanie did not attend.

 

[HRHHermione]

Somehow, a stretch Hummer seems to be the most perfect possible vehicle for these two...yes.

The more I think about it, it's an inspired choice of transportation for Katie and Imre!

It does rather fit.

 

[claypoint2]

It is possible that Maria Teresa and Henri may still be said to be in mourning. Stephanie's mother was buried only a short time ago, and of course Stephanie may need extra help to make her transition to Berg, and help.

Now, that I buy. The future Grand Duchess is in mourning, so the current Grand Duke and Duchess carry on with royal duties but refrain from attending a family celebration, such as this wedding. If this is the case, it is a lovely act of solidarity and kindness toward Stephanie, who must be going through a very difficult time.

That's tacky. Stretch Hummers are for Mississippi proms, not for royal weddings.

Can you picture Archduke Carl-Christian and Princess Marie Astrid in a stretch Hummer? I can only imagine what Imre's grandfather, AD Carl Ludwig would have said about the whole thing.... He and some of his brothers signed up to fight in World War II among U.S. troops (in the 101st Infantry batallion, I believe) , and they were apparently very conscious of their royal rank and made sure that everyone else was, too.

On a different subject: according to a "paper" that Imre and Kathleen have published, they will reach their wedding night (which is taking place right now, I suppose) as virgins: http://iffd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IFFDPapers05EN.pdf

Probably more information about their personal life than I needed to know, but there you have it. Perhaps Katie's fondness for speaking publicly is rubbing off on Imre....

 

[HRHHermione]

Well, according to a "paper" that Imre and Kathleen have published, they will reach their wedding night (which is taking place right now, I suppose) as virgins: http://iffd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IFFDPapers05EN.pdf

Probably more information about their personal life than I needed to know, but there you have it. Perhaps Katie's fondness for speaking publicly is rubbing off on Imre....

Oh, gag me.

There are few things less attractive than young people with no life experience who feel qualified to lecture others on the One Right And Proper Way to live. By all means, they should make whatever choices they want to make about their personal lives and live in accordance with their own beliefs, but the moral superiority and the barely concealed disdain for those who don't make the same choices they've made is really, really unappealing.



These two are officially my least favorite couple followed by the Royal Forums.

 

[NGalitzine]

I agree. I know very little about the young man but from what I have read about his wife she s not someone I would care to meet. I hope Mr and Mrs Habsburg quickly fade away.

 

[American Dane]

I agree. I know very little about the young man but from what I have read about his wife she s not someone I would care to meet. I hope Mr and Mrs Habsburg quickly fade away.

Oh, if only that were their titles. I can't believe she's an Archduchess now. You know she'll use that for all it's worth.

Somehow, a stretch Hummer seems to be the most perfect possible vehicle for these two...yes.

The more I think about it, it's an inspired choice of transportation for Katie and Imre!

They're made for each other, that's for sure.
Even Mississippi proms with taste or class don't have stretch hummers Perhaps this was Katie's contribution to the wedding planning. She's certainly proven she has neither class nor taste.

 

[4Pam]

Let's leave the bride/groom alone for their choice of transportation. It's wedding season, they're not the only couple in need of a limo. With the size of the bridal party, it may have been a good choice.

 

[principessa]

Are there any possibilities to see pictures? At royalmusings I am not able to see pictures.

 

[Biri]

Imre is studying in Poland??? I hear it for the first time!

Congrats to them!

And the Prince Napoleon who is dating Countess Olimpia von Arco-Zinneberg, is named Jean-Christophe, not Jean-Claude.

 

[carlota]

i am for one not a fan of katie's dress. there's too much going on for me on the top. the plissée and the embroidery for some reason look like too much. i like simple wedding dresses and this is for certain not one.

i wonder if katie inspired herself on kate middleton (the embroidery plus the bustier arrangement is similar). of course, it may not be the case, i guess now the embroidery on the top of the dress is very much en vogue.


on the other hand, even the fact that the dress was not my cup of tea, i think katie looked good and they both looked happy. but... the limousine is just too tacky. who was the wedding planner? i hope it wasn't her idea to hire a limousine, otherwise that would just discredit her from any events planning.

i hope the new archduchess of austria does not use her title to give attention to her "causes". even more, i think after her "ascension" she should keep quieter of such radical views.

i'm looking forward to christoph and adelaide's wedding, which will surely be another level of event.

 

[claypoint2]

There are few things less attractive than young people with no life experience who feel qualified to lecture others on the One Right And Proper Way to live. By all means, they should make whatever choices they want to make about their personal lives and live in accordance with their own beliefs, but the moral superiority and the barely concealed disdain for those who don't make the same choices they've made is really, really unappealing.

I couldn't agree with you more, Hermione.

 

[claypoint2]

Are there any possibilities to see pictures? At royalmusings I am not able to see pictures.

Hmmm. I'm not sury why that is, principessa.

At this point if you search for "Imre Kathleen Walker wedding" in Google Images, you will see several photos of the wedding. Good luck....

 

[carlota]

oh and obviously a big thanks to MarleneKoenig for keeping us updated and showing us her great pics!

i wonder why tessy wasn't at the wedding...

 

[Pranter]

Does anyone know where they plan to live now that they are married?


LaRae

 

[Sofia Lopes]

Does anyone knows Kathleen's birthday?

 

[Al_bina]

Well, according to a "paper" that Imre and Kathleen have published, they will reach their wedding night (which is taking place right now, I suppose) as virgins: http://iffd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IFFDPapers05EN.pdfProbably more information about their personal life than I needed to know, but there you have it. Perhaps Katie's fondness for speaking publicly is rubbing off on Imre....

It would have been much better for the couple not to publicly express their opinion on the matter. These particular things must remain private.

There are few things less attractive than young people with no life experience who feel qualified to lecture others on the One Right And Proper Way to live. By all means, they should make whatever choices they want to make about their personal lives and live in accordance with their own beliefs, but the moral superiority and the barely concealed disdain for those who don't make the same choices they've made is really, really unappealing.

You are absolutely right.

 

[Kataryn]

Well, according to a "paper" that Imre and Kathleen have published, they will reach their wedding night (which is taking place right now, I suppose) as virgins: http://iffd.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IFFDPapers05EN.pdf

Well, then let's hope Kathleen is as steadfast in her beliefs as the Habsburgs are when it comes to divorce - there is not much worse in my experience then finding out in your wedding night that your fantasies don't fit... Maybe they do, though. Or not. But then, it's not my life, is it? <grin>

Oh God, I just read this nonsense. Written like a academic paper, it is so full of logical errors in the conclusions taken from the data provided (and I'm not even sure this is not data gathered by a Catholic team of surveyors) that I wonder if any of these two actually reached an academic degree?

Where does the idea come from that married (as in "un-divorced") people are necessarily in a "happy" marriage? For it's not the marriage that gives children the security, it's a happy or at least friendly marriage of people concious of the needs of their kids. There are children much better off after their parents separated - children who then expereince parital love without being part of an unhappy family triangle.

As for their sexuality: well, it's their choice. History alas has shown that women may be okay with such scenarios, but that men tend to follow their instincts occasionally. Oh, I'm married for years and years now and have never looked at another man (and I'm sure my husband hasn't either taken sideway glances) but we tried it out and found we fit before we said "yes" in front of the Lord.

 

[suztav]

Why does anyone think that we need to know their views on sex? Keel it to yourself --- whether you abstain or engage more often than most. I don't need to know. I wonder what the new Archduchess thinks of her new Uncle Jean, cousin Louis, or for that matter the Crow Princess of Norway? Oh, to be a fly on the wall!

I have a sinking feeling that the Archduchess won't be happy with a secondary role in life. Stay tuned .... We have ourselves a bully with a pulpit.

 

[claypoint2]

Does anyone know where they plan to live now that they are married?


LaRae

Apparently they will move to Europe. Imre is studying in Poland, and some say that they will move there. However, the taxi driver with whom Marlene spoke (who had driven the couple) said that they're moving to Brussels, which would also make sense, given that Imre's family is in Belgium. In either case, it appears that Kathleen will have to manage a significant change in culture and context.

 

[Pranter]

I would imagine given their belief/faith they will focus on family. I would guess when it comes to dealing with a new culture that there are people with similar views all over the world. Afteralll Imre is not American and he apparently has very similar views to hers.

 

[claypoint2]

Based on your comment, my guess is that you've never had to face the challenge of living in a different culture, LaRae, but perhaps I'm wrong. Cultural transitions can be very difficult, even if one has the good fortune of having something important - like faith - in common with those in the new setting. Fundamental assumptions about how to behave are so different in each culture.... For example, if someone gives Katie a compliment in Belgium, I hope for her sake that she won't simply say "thank you," as we would in the U.S., because it won't go over very well! She'll be thought to be quite arrogant and even rude.

 

[Kit]

Since Austria abolished all titles with the end of the monarchy the bride is NOT an Archduchess what's more she has not even the right to call herself an Archduchess while being in Austria. She is just Kathleen Habsburg-Lothringen and the same applies for all family members! Even the late Otto didn't have this right he was just Dr. Otto Habsburg-Lothringen in Austria. Only IF the monarchy still existed the title Archduke and Duchess would be correct.

 

[Pranter]

Based on your comment, my guess is that you've never had to face the challenge of living in a different culture...

No I have not lived overseas (my husband has) however I do have exposure quite often from those who are from other non-American cultures so I do have a grasp of the differences in how people go about things. I have family members from other cultures.

As far as Kathleen responding to compliments and the linke... I would assume her new family will guide her as needed.

 

[EmpressRouge]

i am for one not a fan of katie's dress. there's too much going on for me on the top. the plissée and the embroidery for some reason look like too much. i like simple wedding dresses and this is for certain not one.

i wonder if katie inspired herself on kate middleton (the embroidery plus the bustier arrangement is similar). of course, it may not be the case, i guess now the embroidery on the top of the dress is very much en vogue.

Not a fan of the dress either; like certain elements but it didn't seem to gel. My biggest problem was the bodice. The lace illusion neckline was nice, but it clashed with the ruching on the bodice and the puffy ball gown skirt. I think if the bodice area were different (i.e. no rushing), the overall effect would have worked better. Loved the veil, the same one Marie-Christine wore, and wished Kathleen featured it more prominently like her sister-in-law. I did think her makeup and hair were done very well though.

 

[Zonk]

Seriously folks?

Let's stay on topic with the actual wedding of Imre and Kathleen. If you would like to discuss the pro choice/pro life movement, there are plenty of other forums where you can do that.

But you will not do it here.

Any and all future off topic posts will be deleted without notice.

 

[maria-olivia]

Thanks Zonk.
The modern Habsbourg managed a royal happy wedding in a foreign Country.

Their Imperial and Royal Highnesses Archduke Christian and Archduchess Marie-Astrid looked happy such their families and royal Guests .

Well done !

 

[marta19pl]

Apparently they will move to Europe. Imre is studying in Poland, and some say that they will move there. However, the taxi driver with whom Marlene spoke (who had driven the couple) said that they're moving to Brussels, which would also make sense, given that Imre's family is in Belgium. In either case, it appears that Kathleen will have to manage a significant change in culture and context.

He is studying in Poland? Studying what and where? In Warsaw or Cracow?