General Questions About The Ruling Family Of Dubai

[TheRoyal]

He was not in wedding. He was seen in regular Majlis.
MBZ's daughter's quran signing was arranged in her paternal grandfather hamdan bin Mohammed's palace. Only Hamdan bin Mohammed descendants were there.
Majid is seen with his family since last year.

Please share if you have the link to photos on Instagram of the signing of the marriage contract for Sheikha Hessa and Sheikh Khalifa?

 

[Puchu]

Please share if you have the link to photos on Instagram of the signing of the marriage contract for Sheikha Hessa and Sheikh Khalifa?

Go through Khouri1000, emiratespriinces, bo.dhahi accounts. You will find them.

 

[Purplerain]

He was not in wedding. He was seen in regular Majlis.
MBZ's daughter's quran signing was arranged in her paternal grandfather hamdan bin Mohammed's palace. Only Hamdan bin Mohammed descendants were there.
Majid is seen with his family since last year.

Hamdan bin Mohammed is not the grandfather of MBZ’s daughter. I think you are mistaking MBZ daughter and MBH daughter who are both named Hessa. Hamdan is the paternal grandfather of MbZ granddaughter.

 

[Purplerain]

I asked in other thread for Abu Dhabi but Ahmed bin Dalmouk his three elder children seem close to MBZ.
Is he divorced from their mother?
What is her name?
Is he close to them as I’ve not seen pictures of them with him. Are they close to Hind bin Saeed too?

And have they moved back to Abu Dhabi with their mother as they are mainly pictured there?

 

[Puchu]

Hamdan bin Mohammed is not the grandfather of MBZ’s daughter. I think you are mistaking MBZ daughter and MBH daughter who are both named Hessa. Hamdan is the paternal grandfather of MbZ granddaughter.

I am not mistaken here. There is no picture of quran signing day of MBZ granddaughter. Those picture are of Hessa and KSN. Hessa's mom is Salama bint Hamdan bin Mohammed, then how she isn’t a granddaughter of Hamdan? Obviously the accounts i mentioned didn't say that thosr pics are of their marriage contract signing. All of them were in hamdan bin Mohammed palace in the same night and that's why i assumed they gathered for that reason.

 

[Purplerain]

I am not mistaken here. There is no picture of quran signing day of MBZ granddaughter. Those picture are of Hessa and KSN. Hessa's mom is Salama bint Hamdan bin Mohammed, then how she isn’t a granddaughter of Hamdan? Obviously the accounts i mentioned didn't say that thosr pics are of their marriage contract signing. All of them were in hamdan bin Mohammed palace in the same night and that's why i assumed they gathered for that reason.

Oh sorry you are indeed right.
I got mixed up with Hamad bin Tahnoun.

 

[Puchu]

I asked in other thread for Abu Dhabi but Ahmed bin Dalmouk his three elder children seem close to MBZ.
Is he divorced from their mother?
What is her name?
Is he close to them as I’ve not seen pictures of them with him. Are they close to Hind bin Saeed too?

And have they moved back to Abu Dhabi with their mother as they are mainly pictured there?

The children of Ahmed bin Dalmook and their mother Hessa bint Ahmed bin Mubarak still live in Dubai. You can check mozasm 's story. Her story mentioned that she and hessa bint ahmed were together. As their mother's home is in Abudhabi, they visit that. Its not clear if Ahmed divorced him. May be he wants his children to live in Dubai, thats why their mother is with them in Dubai.

 

[Lasya]

Yes Ahmed bin Dalmook and Hessa bint Ahmed are divorced

 

[Puchu]

Yes Ahmed bin Dalmook and Hessa bint Ahmed are divorced

When their divorce happened? Which year?

 

[Lasya]

When their divorce happened? Which yea

When their divorce happened? Which year?

Don't know the exact year but I think it was 2 years before his marriage to Hind bint Saeed.

 

[Hasset]

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Aww congratulations to the couple. but do they normally name their baby after the mother, when the mother is alive?

 

[Puchu]

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Aww congratulations to the couple. but do they normally name their baby after the mother, when the mother is alive?

Sometimes people do it. But its rare. Mahra may be wanted to name her daughter after her. Mouza bint Tahnoon Al Nahyan also has a daughter named Mouza.

 

[Purplerain]

Does anyone think Mahra might be fulfilling the role Haya did as representing the modern part of Dubai as people wonder why she has so much freedom?

 

[Imanmajed]

Does anyone think Mahra might be fulfilling the role Haya did as representing the modern part of Dubai as people wonder why she has so much freedom?

Thats a very good question.

 

[fandesacs2003]

Thats a very good question.

And if we take the question in the opposite side? They have this freedom... simply because they consider they are entitled to.. and they would not accept to be different ?
Let"s take case per case.
Princess Haya, daughter of King and sister of à ruling King, descendant from Profhete ...Raised in England, like the purest Bristish aristocracy... already well known internationally, used to a free life (she proved it....)
Would she accept to put the Hijab and disappear on purdha? For me No. And she didn't... if Sh. Mo took advantage of this... to think about, but in any case I doubt he had choice.
Sheikha Mahra for me is a more complicated case. You have a girl raised in an occidental country, used to live like an occidental girl. And suddenly in her hot teenage age (17 or 18) she finds herself in a completely different country, she needs to adapt. For some years her way of llife I would say hurts... and her main occupation is related to horses. Then she disappeared..one thought was that she could not adapt to life there. And she appeared again, with a completely different appearance and with her main occupation : invitee in official public events. Orientally dressed; then marriage with a local and motherhood. Before her marriage she spent a decade with no private life (unless fully hidden). For someone raised in Europe, this decade 18-28 is the top of age to live her private life. If she did...she did it well secretly.
So here also we have a scenario, not of a granted freedom ... but a reduced one.. what an Emirati eye sees as a high freedom...is the opposite. She could not oppress more... she did a lot.
Could her father ask her more? Apparently not (we don't know if he wishes to...)
And here we have also a strange behavior. The same man who kidnapped 2 daughters.. and emprisonned her for ever.. he has another daughter, left to be raised abroad, as a Christian European teenager, without issue. It is unclear if he was aware about her existance since day 0, but for sure when she was a kid, he was present in her life.
Why he didn't ask to bring her in Dubai ? Mystery. He could have kidnapped her ... in 5 minutes. Nut he didn't. He kept her other kids away from her mothers (Manal's mother) he gave Latifa 2 to be raised by another woman... but here.. freedom..
Maybe his behavior is different depending on the mother?
Food for thought

 

[Hasset]

Didn't hamdan Maktoum and Ahmed got married on the same day, why does their fanpages wish them anniversary wishes on different days then??

Also ik this is random but anyone knows which one of the brothers wife is from richest side of the family? I've read somewhere that Maktoums wife maryam is the one with the richest father, is it true?

 

[Serenei]

Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed bin Maktoum and his wife Moza bint Hamdan Al Malik have welcomed twins today named Noura and Rashid. Congratulations to them.

Is he still married to his wife Mona?

 

[Lasya]

Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed bin Maktoum and his wife Moza bint Hamdan Al Malik have welcomed twins today named Noura and Rashid. Congratulations to them.

Is he still married to his wife Mona?

Yes

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Does anyone think Mahra might be fulfilling the role Haya did as representing the modern part of Dubai as people wonder why she has so much freedom?

No. I don’t see it that way because Mahra and Haya present themselves very differently. She only has more freedom because she lived with her mother abroad and she’s not interested in rocking any boats. She’s already lived abroad and has married with a child.

And if we take the question in the opposite side? They have this freedom... simply because they consider they are entitled to.. and they would not accept to be different ?
Let"s take case per case.
Princess Haya, daughter of King and sister of à ruling King, descendant from Profhete ...Raised in England, like the purest Bristish aristocracy... already well known internationally, used to a free life (she proved it....)
Would she accept to put the Hijab and disappear on purdha? For me No. And she didn't... if Sh. Mo took advantage of this... to think about, but in any case I doubt he had choice.
Sheikha Mahra for me is a more complicated case. You have a girl raised in an occidental country, used to live like an occidental girl. And suddenly in her hot teenage age (17 or 18) she finds herself in a completely different country, she needs to adapt. For some years her way of llife I would say hurts... and her main occupation is related to horses. Then she disappeared..one thought was that she could not adapt to life there. And she appeared again, with a completely different appearance and with her main occupation : invitee in official public events. Orientally dressed; then marriage with a local and motherhood. Before her marriage she spent a decade with no private life (unless fully hidden). For someone raised in Europe, this decade 18-28 is the top of age to live her private life. If she did...she did it well secretly.
So here also we have a scenario, not of a granted freedom ... but a reduced one.. what an Emirati eye sees as a high freedom...is the opposite. She could not oppress more... she did a lot.
Could her father ask her more? Apparently not (we don't know if he wishes to...)
And here we have also a strange behavior. The same man who kidnapped 2 daughters.. and emprisonned her for ever.. he has another daughter, left to be raised abroad, as a Christian European teenager, without issue. It is unclear if he was aware about her existance since day 0, but for sure when she was a kid, he was present in her life.
Why he didn't ask to bring her in Dubai ? Mystery. He could have kidnapped her ... in 5 minutes. Nut he didn't. He kept her other kids away from her mothers (Manal's mother) he gave Latifa 2 to be raised by another woman... but here.. freedom..
Maybe his behavior is different depending on the mother?
Food for thought

There’s no purdah in the UAE. Haya is Jordanian and is a bit more pro-western in lifestyle and sympathies so her experiences were different. He was married women of different backgrounds and lifestyles so for those women it was a choice about hijab or no hijab. Sheikh Mohammed was obviously aware of Mahra’s existence, but at some point he and Mahra’s mother ended things, however they ended things more amicably and probably came to a fair agreement on Mahra’s living and lifestyle. He didn’t take her back probably because they agreed for Mahra to be raised abroad up till a certain age and no one “misbehaved” whilst abroad. He had an issue with Manal’s mother so it was complicated. Mahra has “freedom”, but then no one in this world has absolute freedom because everyone is generally bound by rules and obligations and a cultural code. One of Mahra’s half-sisters, Sheikha Maitha is an athlete, she’s not married to anyone and makes her appearances for her sports events, but she does what she likes without “rocking boats”.

 

[Serenei]

Sheikha Mahra's new event:

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I just wished she didn't photoshop her pics that much. She looks completely different at @rashidcentre story :/
or even the videos:

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[fandesacs2003]

No. I don’t see it that way because Mahra and Haya present themselves very differently. She only has more freedom because she lived with her mother abroad and she’s not interested in rocking any boats. She’s already lived abroad and has married with a child.


There’s no purdah in the UAE. Haya is Jordanian and is a bit more pro-western in lifestyle and sympathies so her experiences were different. He was married women of different backgrounds and lifestyles so for those women it was a choice about hijab or no hijab. Sheikh Mohammed was obviously aware of Mahra’s existence, but at some point he and Mahra’s mother ended things, however they ended things more amicably and probably came to a fair agreement on Mahra’s living and lifestyle. He didn’t take her back probably because they agreed for Mahra to be raised abroad up till a certain age and no one “misbehaved” whilst abroad. He had an issue with Manal’s mother so it was complicated. Mahra has “freedom”, but then no one in this world has absolute freedom because everyone is generally bound by rules and obligations and a cultural code. One of Mahra’s half-sisters, Sheikha Maitha is an athlete, she’s not married to anyone and makes her appearances for her sports events, but she does what she likes without “rocking boats”.

Sorry, i might have used the wrong expression. Isn't purdah what Sheikha Hind has adopted ? Never appear in public (at least mixed genders) and never disclose any picture? The only and one picture available of her is one of her 17ies?

As for the former wifes you might be right. When he separates amicably he behaviors more openly.
Furthermore Isn't Sheikha Maitha the full sister of both Shamsa and Latifa? Another example of different behavior. Daughters of the same mother. What did the two made so wrong to justify what happened to them?
Yes young Mahra (Christianna) does not seem to have provoked any scandal as a teen. But what is considered to be a scandal to his yes? A European teen at her 17ies goes out, is partying and flirting. She did all this but it was OK.
Did Shamsa and Latifa worst? Or maybe because Mahra is half European and the other 2 not.
Maybe.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

Sorry, i might have used the wrong expression. Isn't purdah what Sheikha Hind has adopted ? Never appear in public (at least mixed genders) and never disclose any picture? The only and one picture available of her is one of her 17ies?

As for the former wifes you might be right. When he separates amicably he behaviors more openly.
Furthermore Isn't Sheikha Maitha the full sister of both Shamsa and Latifa? Another example of different behavior. Daughters of the same mother. What did the two made so wrong to justify what happened to them?
Yes young Mahra (Christianna) does not seem to have provoked any scandal as a teen. But what is considered to be a scandal to his yes? A European teen at her 17ies goes out, is partying and flirting. She did all this but it was OK.
Did Shamsa and Latifa worst? Or maybe because Mahra is half European and the other 2 not.
Maybe.

Yes, Sheikha Maitha is the full sister of Shamsa and Latifa. Most royal wives across the Gulf to parts of North Africa, are hardly seen, with some exceptions and those exceptions are very recent because many years this wasn’t a thing.

Sheikha Shamsa was on holiday in London with the family on one of their estates and wanted go out of the estate without anyone knowing. At the time she was 17 or 18, she doesn’t know anyone in the U.K aside from family members so it wasn’t safe for her to go out on her own. Her father was worried and that’s why he called for security to search for her. She could have been kidnapped or ransomed by strangers.

Probably Sheikh Mohammed didn’t or doesn’t know about the “the partying and flirting”, just my assumption. Mahra hasn’t done anything to bring unnecessary or bad publicity. I don’t think their father gives exceptions to Mahra because her mother is European, but simply despite being half European, she doesn’t do what Shamsa and Latifa do or attempt what they did. Mahra lived her abroad, studied, and graduated from university, but she did the conventional thing as a daughter of a respected Gulf family, she married well and doesn’t bring too much media reporting on her movements. Sheikh Mohammed doesn’t seem to pleased with Shamsa, Latifa and their brother with the exception of Sheikha Maitha.

 

[Turefu]

What's happening with Latifa now? Is she free?
I don't know what Shamsa did, but kidnapping her from the streets and lock her away for life is horrible. I don't know, is there anything, what justifies that.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

What's happening with Latifa now? Is she free?
I don't know what Shamsa did, but kidnapping her from the streets and lock her away for life is horrible. I don't know, is there anything, what justifies that.

They had to find her because she left her family estate without anyone knowing. Shamsa was running out of the family estate in the U.K to go out into town without security. Mind you, she has no friends in the U.K, and ran out of the family estate without any I.D or whatever. It wasn’t sensible or safe for her to do that, she’s the daughter of a head of state, if anything happened to her or she was ransomed by strangers, how would that look for the family? She would also be jeopardising the safety of her family. Children of heads of state don’t go anywhere without security. She’s not an ordinary girl. If she wanted to go out, I’m sure that could have been arranged carefully, but going out without supervision into a place you’re not that familiar with isn’t sensible. The sons of the Sheikhs and Emirs always go with an entourage, they never go alone whether they know a country well or not. Latifa, is in the UAE and occasionally there are or were pictures of her out in Dubai, fairly recent.

 

[fandesacs2003]

I'm sorry but we should not mix things for Samsa and Latifa cases. Explaining to a young person that she might occur risks, and even insisting to her to have a security.. is far away from kidnapping someone, In a public area and disregarding any national and international law, especially in another country. And even not... she isn't free since, despite that she is almost 40 years old, even more and she should be free to do whatever she wants.
We should not try to justify this unacceptable and violent behavior...just because a young girl might be in risk. ... this is a criminal behavior against any human right.

 

[Turefu]

Absolutely agree, Fandesacs2003. Shamsa, even if behaved unresponsably , shouldn't been kept captive for years afterwards. We don't know, what exactly happened, according Latifa's video, Shamsa is kept drugged in high security place. That's horrible.
I think Latifa stroke some kind of deal with her father Mohammed. Perhaps he gave her humble £10mln and said: go, live free, but keep your mouth shut or else! And she accepted an offer.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

I'm sorry but we should not mix things for Samsa and Latifa cases. Explaining to a young person that she might occur risks, and even insisting to her to have a security.. is far away from kidnapping someone, In a public area and disregarding any national and international law, especially in another country. And even not... she isn't free since, despite that she is almost 40 years old, even more and she should be free to do whatever she wants.
We should not try to justify this unacceptable and violent behavior...just because a young girl might be in risk. ... this is a criminal behavior against any human right.

I’m not justifying anything, someone asked about the two sisters and I explained part of the situation. I don’t agree with kidnapping.

 

[fandesacs2003]

@Turefu of course for Samsa. I agree also for Latifa but I'm not so sure if she is winner to this deal. She is still in Dubai and controlled, she cannot do what she wished to do. She just gained the opportunity to travel somehow (but controlled) and she could live free in Dubai in a normal residence and not in a dungeon beaten. Sad..