General Questions About The Ruling Family Of Abu Dhabi 1:

[Purplerain]

Could be that but also Mouza has girls and for the men of marrying age there were no other girls nearer their age?
I mean weren’t people kind of surprised zayed bin Suroor married one of her daughters?

Also they say her husbands family live in Dubai is that true?
I know Mouza’s husband Mohammed’s dad and his sister Latifa (MbR mother) fled to Dubai after the killing of their father.

 

[Puchu]

Could be that but also Mouza has girls and for the men of marrying age there were no other girls nearer their age?
I mean weren’t people kind of surprised zayed bin Suroor married one of her daughters?

No one thought for Mouza's daughter for Zayed. Suroor's son is one of the good looking men with the background of bani Fatima and bani Mohammed.

But I saw Shamma and Mouza interacting in their old Instagram posts and Zayed was seen visiting mouza's home. Mouza's daughters are beautiful too. These all facilitated this marriage I think. MbZ seems to give priority to bani Aisha. Mouza's husband is also new influential man who has links with Al Maktoum family and bani Khalifa and bani Saif.

I also got surprised and I didn't think no girls out of bani Fatima. Btw, Al Nahyans always try to marry 1st full cousins, when they don't have full ones, sometimes they go for half cousins or 1st full cousin's children. Marrying cousin's children are becoming less. They rarely goes for 2nd/4th cousins. But they do.

 

[fahdasneji]

Does anyone know when is Fatima bint Suroor born?
And is Hazza bint Sultan bin Zayed the only one of the new generation who has two wives? And what is the name of his second wife?

 

[Puchu]

Does anyone know when is Fatima bint Suroor born?
And is Hazza bint Sultan bin Zayed the only one of the new generation who has two wives? And what is the name of his second wife?

Fatima bint Suroor was born in 1984.

Hamdan bin Saeed bin Tahnoon also married second time, to an Al Dhaheri. There may be other sheikhs from Shakhbout line with 2 wives. Hazza bin Sultan's 2nd wife is a daughter of Saeed bin Salim Al Shamsi.

 

[fahdasneji]

Fatima bint Suroor was born in 1984.

Hamdan bin Saeed bin Tahnoon also married second time, to an Al Dhaheri. There may be other sheikhs from Shakhbout line with 2 wives. Hazza bin Sultan's 2nd wife is a daughter of Saeed bin Salim Al Shamsi.

Thanks for answering.

So, his second wife is Al Shamsi and the first is Al Nahyan.
What made him marry her? He does have kids from the first wife.
Well, Al Dhaheri and Al Otaiba are so well related to the Bani Mohammed, they are almost like a family.

 

[Puchu]

Thanks for answering.

Welcome

So, his second wife is Al Shamsi and the first is Al Nahyan.
What made him marry her? He does have kids from the first wife.

I think its his personal issue.

His 1st wife is Aysha bint Saif Al Nahyan, daughter of Afra bint Zayed. They have one daughter named Shamsa. No one knows if they are together or not. If they divorce, they also marry for another time. Though not applicable for all.

Sometimes Sheikhs marry multiple times to have more children.

 

[Puchu]

Well, Al Dhaheri and Al Otaiba are so well related to the Bani Mohammed, they are almost like a family.

Yes, they are closely related.

Those who have Al Otaiba wife:

Tahnoon bin Mohammed
Saif bin Mohammed
Rashid bin Hamdan

Tahnoon, Hamdan, Mubarak, Hamda, Maitha, Alyazia and Aysha bint Mohammed had Al Otaiba mother

Al Dhaheri wives:

Saeed bin Mohammed
Saeed bin Tahnoon
Hamdan bin Saeed bin Tahnoon
Hamdan bin Mohammed
Khalifa bin Sultan bin Shakhboot
Sultan bin Khalifa bin Sultan bin Shakhboot

Saif, Suroor, Sultan, Afra, Mouza, Fatima and Shamsa bint Mohammed was children of Al Dhaheri wife.

They are mainly bani Mohammed's mother blocks and that's why they are closely related

 

[fahdasneji]

Yes, they are closely related.

Those who have Al Otaiba wife:

Tahnoon bin Mohammed
Saif bin Mohammed
Rashid bin Hamdan

Tahnoon, Hamdan, Mubarak, Hamda, Maitha, Alyazia and Aysha bint Mohammed had Al Otaiba mother

Al Dhaheri wives:

Saeed bin Mohammed
Saeed bin Tahnoon
Hamdan bin Saeed bin Tahnoon
Hamdan bin Mohammed
Khalifa bin Sultan bin Shakhboot
Sultan bin Khalifa bin Sultan bin Shakhboot

Saif, Suroor, Sultan, Afra, Mouza, Fatima and Shamsa bint Mohammed was children of Al Dhaheri wife.

They are mainly bani Mohammed's mother blocks and that's why they are closely related

Thanks a lot.

Just food for thought -
In the past, tribal women from the Gulf married ar around 16-17 and produced on average 8 or more children. Today, women from the Gulf marry late, even the royal women and women from wealthy tribes marry late and have fewer children.
Why do you think they marry late? Are they following some Western standards or is it because of education?
Or the girls just wish to experience freedom before they marry?

The women from Algeria, Egypt and Yemen still have many children as before but the Gulf women have less children on average.

 

[Puchu]

Just food for thought -
In the past, tribal women from the Gulf married ar around 16-17 and produced on average 8 or more children. Today, women from the Gulf marry late, even the royal women and women from wealthy tribes marry late and have fewer children.
Why do you think they marry late? Are they following some Western standards or is it because of education?
Or the girls just wish to experience freedom before they marry?

The women from Algeria, Egypt and Yemen still have many children as before but the Gulf women have less children on average.

I think because of following western standards. Marrying late and tend to have less children are real one. An emirati here said most of the gulf couples are having highest 4 children. Though it won't affect mass people’s life but Its not good for those who are in ruling power. For example, CP Khaled has only 3 children and he can make close alliance with other 3 people only and because of this, he will have to rely on his nephews which is a weak zone. His father had 9 children with his only wife and he benefited a lot like his father Zayed by children's marriages. Women have certain time to become mother and late marriage affect in having children.
Still only Al Nahyans marry early comparing other emirati royals. Usually they used to marry early before too, now-a-days its after their graduation. Though few are different. Not only women, but also men married early. Khalifa, Nasser, Mohammed, Hamdan bin Zayed married before turning 20. Most Al Maktoums marry in late 20s and some marry in 30s. Though that seems obligity only. Khalifa's children married early and Ruler's children of all emirates marry late, have few children. Though Al Maktoums are exception in having children, they still love to have more children, in average they have 5 children which is now rare in Al Nahyans from 80s.
Its all over Asia and nice to hear that African Arabs and Yemenis still following their tradition.

 

[Puchu]

We always talk about the Sheikhs great marriage arrangement. Meanwhile Shamsa and Mouza bint Zayed are also good marriage arrangers. I also want to keep other Sheikhas.

Another woman came in my mind is Sheikha Hamda bint Mohammed Al Nahyan, Tahnoon bin Mohammed's full sister and widow of Mohammed bin Khalid Al Nahyan. She managed to keep good relations with all wives of his brothers. Like his two daughters married Hamdan's sons who are from different mothers and same goes for Tahnoon's children who are his son/daughter in law.

 

[Puchu]

Tahnoon bin Mohammed's grandchildren from Shamma Al Otaiba:

✪Saeed bin Tahnoon - Fakhra bint Mubarak

Hamdan bin Saeed
Mariam bint Saeed
Shamma bint Saeed
Tahnoon bin Saeed
Late Zayed bin Saeed

(may be) from Al Dhaheri:

Essa bin Saeed
Nahyan bin Saeed
Ahmed bin Saeed
Mohammed bin Saeed

◑Saeed bin Tahnoon's grandchildren:

Hamdan - Mouza bint Khalifa bin Mohammed :

Saeed bin Hamdan
Hamad bin Hamdan
Khalifa bin Hamdan

Mariam - Marwan bin Rashid Al Mualla

Hessa bint Marwan
Rashid bin Marwan
Shamsa bint Marwan

Shamma - Ahmed bin Nasser bin Zayed

Nasser bin Ahmed
Fakhra bint Ahmed
Zayed bin Ahmed

✪Hamad bin Tahnoon - Shaikha bint Khalifa bin Zayed

Mohammed bin Hamad
Hissa bint Hamad
Shamma bint Hamad
Tahnoon bin Hamad
Shamsa bint Hamad
Khalifa bin Hamad

◑Hamad bin Tahnoon's grandchildren :

Mohammed - Shamsa bint Mohamed bin Zayed

Hessa bint Mohammed
Zayed bin Mohammed
Salama bint Mohammed
Fatima bint Mohammed

Hissa - Khalid bin Khalifa bin Sultan bin Shakhboot

Shakhboot bin Khalid
Shaikha bint Khalid
Mohammed bin Khalid

Shamma - Hamdan bin Issa bin Zayed

Hamad bin Hamdan

Tahnoon - Hamda bint Khalifa bin Saif

Shamsa bint Tahnoon
Shaikha bint Tahnoon

✪Sultan bin Tahnoon - Wadeema bint Zayed

Mariam bint Sultan
Shamma bint Sultan
Maitha bint Sultan
Zayed bin Sultan
Latifa bint Sultan

◑Sultan bin Tahnoon's grandchild :

Maitha bint Zayed bin Saeed bin Zayed

✪Ahmed bin Tahnoon - Shaikha bint Suroor

Zayed bin Ahmed

✪Mansoor bin Tahnoon - Salama bint Khalifa bin Zayed
Zayed bin Mansoor
Mohammed bin Mansoor
Khalifa bin Mansoor
Shamma bint Mansoor

✪Mouza bint Tahnoon - Hamdan bin Mubarak

Mubarak bin Hamdan
Wife of Mohammed bin Ahmed bin Hamdan
Tahnoon bin Hamdan
Mohammed bin Hamdan
Maitha bint Hamdan

◑Mouza bint Tahnoon's grandchildren:

Mubarak - Fatima bint Saeed bin Saif

Hamdan bin Mubarak
Zayed bin Mubarak

daughter married Mohammed bin Ahmed bin Hamdan

Shamsa bint Mohammed

✪Salama bint Tahnoon - Khalifa bin Mohammed bin Khalid

Mouza bint Khalifa
Khalid bin Khalifa
Mohammed bin Khalifa
Tahnoon bin Khalifa
Hamda bint Khalifa
Maitha bint Khalifa
Aisha bint Khalifa

◑Salama bint Tahnoon's grandchildren:

Mouza - Hamdan bin Saeed Tahnoon

Saeed bin Hamdan
Hamad bin Hamdan
Khalifa bin Hamdan

Mohammed - Fatima bint Nahyan bin Mubarak

Hamda bint Mohammed
Salama bint Mohammed

Hamda - Khalifa bin Nahyan bin Hamdan

Mohammed bin Khalifa

 

[Jihan]

I mean weren’t people kind of surprised zayed bin Suroor married one of her daughters?.

And why is that, is there ever any Convo happened between the two?

 

[Nerisa]

Tahnoon bin Mohammed's grandchildren from Shamma Al Otaiba:

✪Saeed bin Tahnoon - Fakhra bint Mubarak

Hamdan bin Saeed
Mariam bint Saeed
Shamma bint Saeed
Tahnoon bin Saeed
Late Zayed bin Saeed

(may be) from Al Dhaheri:

Essa bin Saeed
Nahyan bin Saeed
Ahmed bin Saeed
Mohammed bin Saeed

◑Saeed bin Tahnoon's grandchildren:

Hamdan - Mouza bint Khalifa bin Mohammed :

Saeed bin Hamdan
Hamad bin Hamdan
Khalifa bin Hamdan

Mariam - Marwan bin Rashid Al Mualla

Hessa bint Marwan
Rashid bin Marwan
Shamsa bint Marwan

Shamma - Ahmed bin Nasser bin Zayed

Nasser bin Ahmed
Fakhra bint Ahmed
Zayed bin Ahmed

✪Hamad bin Tahnoon - Shaikha bint Khalifa bin Zayed

Mohammed bin Hamad
Hissa bint Hamad
Shamma bint Hamad
Tahnoon bin Hamad
Shamsa bint Hamad
Khalifa bin Hamad

◑Hamad bin Tahnoon's grandchildren :

Mohammed - Shamsa bint Mohamed bin Zayed

Hessa bint Mohammed
Zayed bin Mohammed
Salama bint Mohammed
Fatima bint Mohammed

Hissa - Khalid bin Khalifa bin Sultan bin Shakhboot

Shakhboot bin Khalid
Shaikha bint Khalid
Mohammed bin Khalid

Shamma - Hamdan bin Issa bin Zayed

Hamad bin Hamdan

Tahnoon - Hamda bint Khalifa bin Saif

Shamsa bint Tahnoon
Shaikha bint Tahnoon

✪Sultan bin Tahnoon - Wadeema bint Zayed

Mariam bint Sultan
Shamma bint Sultan
Maitha bint Sultan
Zayed bin Sultan
Latifa bint Sultan

◑Sultan bin Tahnoon's grandchild :

Maitha bint Zayed bin Saeed bin Zayed

✪Ahmed bin Tahnoon - Shaikha bint Suroor

Zayed bin Ahmed

✪Mansoor bin Tahnoon - Salama bint Khalifa bin Zayed
Zayed bin Mansoor
Mohammed bin Mansoor
Khalifa bin Mansoor
Shamma bint Mansoor

✪Mouza bint Tahnoon - Hamdan bin Mubarak

Mubarak bin Hamdan
Wife of Mohammed bin Ahmed bin Hamdan
Tahnoon bin Hamdan
Mohammed bin Hamdan
Maitha bint Hamdan

◑Mouza bint Tahnoon's grandchildren:

Mubarak - Fatima bint Saeed bin Saif

Hamdan bin Mubarak
Zayed bin Mubarak

daughter married Mohammed bin Ahmed bin Hamdan

Shamsa bint Mohammed

✪Salama bint Tahnoon - Khalifa bin Mohammed bin Khalid

Mouza bint Khalifa
Khalid bin Khalifa
Mohammed bin Khalifa
Tahnoon bin Khalifa
Hamda bint Khalifa
Maitha bint Khalifa
Aisha bint Khalifa

◑Salama bint Tahnoon's grandchildren:

Mouza - Hamdan bin Saeed Tahnoon

Saeed bin Hamdan
Hamad bin Hamdan
Khalifa bin Hamdan

Mohammed - Fatima bint Nahyan bin Mubarak

Hamda bint Mohammed
Salama bint Mohammed

Hamda - Khalifa bin Nahyan bin Hamdan

Mohammed bin Khalifa

Is Shaikha bint Khalifa bin Zayed the second born of the late Sheikh Khalifa and Shamsa bint Suhail? Assuming she got married at like 16 or 18 and Mohammed bin Hamad (shamsa mbz's husband) is probably born in the early 80s

 

[Puchu]

Is Shaikha bint Khalifa bin Zayed the second born of the late Sheikh Khalifa and Shamsa bint Suhail? Assuming she got married at like 16 or 18 and Mohammed bin Hamad (shamsa mbz's husband) is probably born in the early 80s

Shaikha bint Khalifa is the second born. Most children of Khalifa married early. Sultan bin Khalifa also married at 18/19. Mohammad bin Hamad is either from 1984 or 1983.

 

[Malayi Arr]

In this IG post Sheikh Hazza bin Sultan bin Zayed Al Nahyan was addressed as "Dr." Did he graduate with a doctoral degree? If he did is it PhD?


https://www.instagram.com/p/CxfrpJMx7dP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

[Puchu]

In this IG post Sheikh Hazza bin Sultan bin Zayed Al Nahyan was addressed as "Dr." Did he graduate with a doctoral degree? If he did is it PhD?


https://www.instagram.com/p/CxfrpJMx7dP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Yes, he did PhD

The girl is Shaikha, not Shamsa

 

[fahdasneji]

Is Sh. Tahnoun born in 68 or 69?

Is Shaikha bint Surour born in 82 or 83?

Is Latifa bint Hamdan from 89 or 91?

 

[Puchu]

Is Sh. Tahnoun born in 68 or 69?

Is Shaikha bint Surour born in 82 or 83?

Is Latifa bint Hamdan from 89 or 91?

Tahnoon bin Zayed was born in 1968.

Shaikha Suroor in 1983

Latifa Hamdan in 1991

 

[fahdasneji]

Tahnoon bin Zayed was born in 1968.

Shaikha Suroor in 1983

Latifa Hamdan in 1991

Shamma bint Zayed married at 16-17. The only one from the young generation to marry so early is Shamsa mbz.

 

[fahdasneji]

When are Zayed bin Hamad bin Hamdan and Shamma bin Hamad bin Hamdan born?
Who is Zayed wife?
How manykids Zayed and Shamma have?

 

[Serenei]

Fatima bint Nahyan bin Mubarak and her husband Mohammed bin Khalifa bin Mohammed had a baby boy today named Khalifa. Congratulations to the parents and big sisters Hamda and Salama

 

[Puchu]

Zayed bin Hamad bin Hamdan is from 1985 (may be). Shamma's age is unknown, she is younger than Zayed.

Zayed bin Hamad is married to Shaikha bint Saeed bin Saif Al Nahyan and they have three children.

Mohammed (2015)
Fatima (2017)
Alyazia (2022)

Shamma bint Hamad bin Hamdan is married to Mohammed bin Suroor, eldest brother in law of CP Khaled. They have four children:

Suroor, Fatima, Zayed and Khalifa (2022)


**lil tips for you, fahdasneji:

Most infos of Al Nahyan couples are included in this thread. I may search first rather than waiting for answers

 

[Puchu]

Fatima bint Nahyan bin Mubarak and her husband Mohammed bin Khalifa bin Mohammed had a baby boy today named Khalifa. Congratulations to the parents and big sisters Hamda and Salama

New grandson for Sheikha Fakhra, Nahyan bin Mubarak and Sheikha Salama and Sheikh Khalifa

 

[Loves]

Khalifa bin Tahnoon is appointed as president of crown prince council
Who is his mother?
Why is given so much importance?

 

[Purplerain]

Is Ahmed bin sultan’s mother eman_alflamrzi?

 

[Nerisa]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqRdnZJ8g1/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==
This is very interesting...Khalifa bin Tahnoun is chairman of crown prince's court. Isn't that a very big position for him?

 

[feiraguy]

Great appointment in Abu Dhabi, Khalifa bin Tahnoun is the new Chairman of the Crown Prince's Court

I said a few times that I imagined he would be appointed to an important position, and it happened... now he is second in authority within the Abu Dhabi Executive Council, he will be at the center of several strategic decisions, this appointment makes him an of the most powerful people in the country

And now we are sure that Dhiyab and Hamdan bin Mohamed bin Zayed will have more important positions, probably as Ministers; Khalifa bin Tahnoun's competitors were the brothers Sultan (Ambassador to Bahrain) and Zayed bin Hamdan (Chairman of the National Media Council), and the Crown Prince's brothers-in-law, Mohamed and Zayed bin Surour.

 

[Loves]

Feiraguy

Can you please tell me what made khalifa more powerful.and also who is mother.
I tried to search in the thread but couldn’t find it.
I couldn’t figure out why is he given most importance

 

[feiraguy]

He is the son of Shamsa bint Zayed, Shamsa is the full sister of Saif, Ahmed, Hamed, Omar and Khalid bin Zayed, this group of full brothers is called "Bani Mouza", after their mother's name, Mouza. Khalifa has four full brothers: Hazza, Mohamed, Dhiyab and Zayed bin Tahnoun.

In addition to being well connected by blood with the Bani Mouza and Tahnoun, he is married to the daughter of Sheikh Hamdan bin Zayed, Hamdan is one of President Mohamed bin Zayed's full brothers.

Furthermore, he appears to be one of the Sheikhs closest to Crown Prince Khalid.

All of the above factors made him one of the favorites to win some powerful position.
And what makes him so powerful? As Head of the Crown Prince's Office, he will have access to various strategic files, participate in strategic meetings, participate in strategic decision-making, be one of the first men to know about each of the Crown Prince's ideas... among other responsibilities

 

[Loves]

Thank you ��
And also what is his wife name