A wife for Albert

[Freedom]

Imo, I think Albert would like to fall intensely in love. Who wouldn't?? I think, however, he has not married, because either the woman was not appropriate for the position as a princess or she was not willing to fulfill it...even though she may have loved him dearly.

 

[Toledo]

I doubt Albert II really knows what true love is, nor would he had the attention span to cultivate and respect it. His antics speak for themselves that what he wants is just a good time, show off a beautiful gal and move on to the next party. I expected more of him, and then the scandals and the secret life came out before his father, the greatest Prince Monaco ever had, was even laid to rest.
So, if we are looking for a wife for Albert, someone as shallow as him will do. Paris Hilton, anyone? Any bankrupt aristocrat with good looks? Anyone like Kathie (Tom Cruise's) Holmes?

 

[pinklady1991]

I doubt Albert II really knows what true love is, nor would he had the attention span to cultivate and respect it. His antics speak for themselves that what he wants is just a good time, show off a beautiful gal and move on to the next party. I expected more of him, and then the scandals and the secret life came out before his father, the greatest Prince Monaco ever had, was even laid to rest.
So, if we are looking for a wife for Albert, someone as shallow as him will do. Paris Hilton, anyone? Any bankrupt aristocrat with good looks? Anyone like Kathie (Tom Cruise's) Holmes?

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Now on to business: While I'm sure PA likes his bachelor/playboy lifestyle, I'm sure it will get old soon. He doesn't have many peers (married or otherwise) in Europe and those a generation younger have already settled down and married. He knows what he should do, and I think freedom has an excellent point: he has to find a woman who is willing to live life in a gilded cage. That can be a genuine problem.

I wouldn't write Albert off as shallow so quickly. Part of the problem is everyone telling him what kind of person he should marry; another is the legend of the iconoclastic romance of his parents; a third may just be focusing on other areas hasn't allowed one to really put major importance on getting married. As I have said before, I've seen too many of my friends put "get married" on a checklist only to "settle" for the person he/she was with at the time and found that things weren't quite right.

 

[Laviollette]

<Edit personal comments/Mandy>

Now on to business: While I'm sure PA likes his bachelor/playboy lifestyle, I'm sure it will get old soon. He doesn't have many peers (married or otherwise) in Europe and those a generation younger have already settled down and married. He knows what he should do, and I think freedom has an excellent point: he has to find a woman who is willing to live life in a gilded cage. That can be a genuine problem.

I wouldn't write Albert off as shallow so quickly. Part of the problem is everyone telling him what kind of person he should marry; another is the legend of the iconoclastic romance of his parents; a third may just be focusing on other areas hasn't allowed one to really put major importance on getting married. As I have said before, I've seen too many of my friends put "get married" on a checklist only to "settle" for the person he/she was with at the time and found that things weren't quite right.

You're so kind pinklady1991. But the fact is that Albert has never even had a long-term, monogamous relationship in his entire life or at least in the last 15 years. Why would he suddently change his life now? His behavior is part of his character, part of who he is as a man.

 

[Toledo]

<Edit personal comments/Mandy>

Now, on Albert, I would really like to know what goes on in his mind to be so difficult for him to get married? As a heir of a monarchy, like his counterparts, his duty is to secure the crown. By now his kids should have been older than Stephanie's and younger than Caroline's. Maybe avoiding marriage is a way he used to rebel against his father that somehow ended up out of control. <Edit personal comments/Mandy> So I think this aversion to marriage is an act of rebelliousness he got carried away with, for too long, and now he does not know how to hit the break pedal anymore.

 

[Freedom]

Why The Mystery?

I think all the points made in the last few hours could be very plausible reasons. I wonder why we have to guess his reasons for not marrying? I realize it really is none of our business...but what is the reason for his secrecy over this issue?

 

[pinklady1991]

I think all the points made in the last few hours could be very plausible reasons. I wonder why we have to guess his reasons for not marrying? I realize it really is none of our business...but what is the reason for his secrecy over this issue?

It's the one part of his life that perhaps he feels is the only private thing he can control.

 

[hofburg]

It doesn't look like he's ever going to marry.

 

[Lillia]

You're so kind pinklady1991. But the fact is that Albert has never even had a long-term, monogamous relationship in his entire life or at least in the last 15 years. Why would he suddently change his life now? His behavior is part of his character, part of who he is as a man.

Well, I can think of one long-term relationship (5 yrs.) that he had, although it probably was not exclusive (but no one knows that except Albie!) He may have actually loved her too (but again, no one knows that except Albie!). And I agree, it can be hard because of his profile.

But I still thik he just has not wanted to be married by now, or he would have done it.

 

[Laviollette]

Well, I can think of one long-term relationship (5 yrs.) that he had, although it probably was not exclusive (but no one knows that except Albie!) He may have actually loved her too (but again, no one knows that except Albie!). And I agree, it can be hard because of his profile.

But I still thik he just has not wanted to be married by now, or he would have done it.

I said long-term and monogamous. And I guess you can count 5 years as long-term even though it's one weekend a month with the other 3 weekends that month reserved for 3 other ladies.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

But I still thik he just has not wanted to be married by now, or he would have done it.

Not all people who want to get married do, its a matter of finding someone you love you can trust and many times families do in fact come in the way why I have said I am not married mine did as well as the other factor.

 

[hofburg]

Do you think he is resolved not to get married?

 

[pinklady1991]

Do you think he is resolved not to get married?

No...but I'm sure he'd much rather people focus on what he intends to do as sovereign than what goes on in his private life.

 

[Laviollette]

Charlene and friends at the 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester, England. Tertius Pickard/Touchline Photo

 

[pinklady1991]

http://www.pointdevue.fr/contenu/fr/default.php?rb=1

Point de Vue is reporting that this is the real deal. They may have the inside track b/c they seemed to be the most pro-Albert during the months after the Alexandre story broke. Anyone in Europe have any thoughts?

Strange though...she has suddenly disappeared in Turin. I guess we'll have to see if she is back for the closing ceremonies. Anyone have any thoughts. We're a week behind in the States with the magazines but will try to pick them up this week.

Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

http://www.pointdevue.fr/contenu/fr/default.php?rb=1

Point de Vue is reporting that this is the real deal. They may have the inside track b/c they seemed to be the most pro-Albert during the months after the Alexandre story broke. Anyone in Europe have any thoughts?

Strange though...she has suddenly disappeared in Turin. I guess we'll have to see if she is back for the closing ceremonies. Anyone have any thoughts. We're a week behind in the States with the magazines but will try to pick them up this week.

Anyone have any thoughts?[/quote

The English translation.

CHARLENE: ALBERT A SELECTED Sporting, natural and glamour, the South-African blonde championne allured the prince of Monaco. In its entourage, all agree to greet in Charlene Wittstock a character and noble-hearted woman. Would Albert have finally found his ideal female?

I take it to be they were quesitoning if its the real thing.

 

[rominet09]

Point de Vue

They say that no one seeing them had no doubt that she was more than a friend and that she had answered to a lady journalist that they were heading for a wedding "not yet"......

http://www.pointdevue.fr/contenu/fr/default.php?rb=1

Point de Vue is reporting that this is the real deal. They may have the inside track b/c they seemed to be the most pro-Albert during the months after the Alexandre story broke. Anyone in Europe have any thoughts?

Strange though...she has suddenly disappeared in Turin. I guess we'll have to see if she is back for the closing ceremonies. Anyone have any thoughts. We're a week behind in the States with the magazines but will try to pick them up this week.

Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[pinklady1991]

They say that no one seeing them had no doubt that she was more than a friend and that she had answered to a lady journalist that they were heading for a wedding "not yet"......

Thanks folks...I read the online blurb from PdV and it's the translation of that pesky possessive adjective...his entourage or hers...I'm assuming his.

 

[leahteresa]

http://www.pointdevue.fr/contenu/fr/default.php?rb=1

Point de Vue is reporting that this is the real deal. They may have the inside track b/c they seemed to be the most pro-Albert during the months after the Alexandre story broke. Anyone in Europe have any thoughts?

Strange though...she has suddenly disappeared in Turin. I guess we'll have to see if she is back for the closing ceremonies. Anyone have any thoughts. We're a week behind in the States with the magazines but will try to pick them up this week.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Seems to me like she's being a bit chatty with the press. Not such a good idea. Normally, you wait until your engaged to talk about your partner too openly. IMO. This sort of goes for people on all levels. I think it's sort of like repecting intimacy. Does that make sense? (I might be reaching but that's my gut instinct in her disappearance) Also, all those athletes from Monoco worked hard to get there; PA and CW were sort of taking the attention away from where it's suppossed to be with so much public affection.

There are lots of pictures of PA with women. I really do not think CW is any different. Getting married for him is really more dangerous, in terms of potential PR scanadal, than staying single. I have read Andrea is close to his heart. He might be very happy to turn it over to him. Andrea is also of the right age to be trained. If he had kids now they would be 20 when he's like 70. It' s a crap shoot.

Oh, and I think if they were really engaged, she would NOT have disappeared when rumors of it started to hit the print. If you really love someone, it's more important than anything else. Magazines print lies all the time for money. No celebrity can sue them all, he would go broke in legal fees.

 

[qui mal y pense]

After all his antics that wouldn't be such a bad thing. Getting involved with that family seems a bit daring.

 

[pinklady1991]

Oh, and I think if they were really engaged, she would NOT have disappeared when rumors of it started to hit the print. If you really love someone, it's more important than anything else. Magazines print lies all the time for money. No celebrity can sue them all, he would go broke in legal fees.

They are definitely not engaged yet anyway. PA is currently suing France Dimanche over stories about him and Telma Ortiz that hit the press in October. His PR people are not denying the story, they are just saying no comment. Also, the official mourning period for Rainier isn't over until April (I'm thinking mid-month b/c the funeral was April 15th) and by then PA will be at the North Pole.

My gut instinct is partially that she was being too chatty and partly that she was only there for a weekend diversion. No one knows when this relationship started (although in late Oct/early Nov he said he wasn't dating anyone) so it's hard to say how fast the rush to the altar would be. If I were her, I'd wait at least a year to see if I could handle the pressure before diving into anything (no pun intended).

I don't think Andrea quite has the work ethic to handle the throne. Remember, Rainier was training Albert for it since his early childhood.

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[Laviollette]

There seems to be a lot of ill will towards Albert marrying anyone. If he picked Charlene, I would be happy and I have a sneeking feeling that the people of Monaco would be happy too.

photo: Pickard/Touchline

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

They are definitely not engaged yet anyway. PA is currently suing France Dimanche over stories about him and Telma Ortiz that hit the press in October. His PR people are not denying the story, they are just saying no comment. Also, the official mourning period for Rainier isn't over until April (I'm thinking mid-month b/c the funeral was April 15th) and by then PA will be at the North Pole.

My gut instinct is partially that she was being too chatty and partly that she was only there for a weekend diversion. No one knows when this relationship started (although in late Oct/early Nov he said he wasn't dating anyone) so it's hard to say how fast the rush to the altar would be. If I were her, I'd wait at least a year to see if I could handle the pressure before diving into anything (no pun intended).

I don't think Andrea quite has the work ethic to handle the throne. Remember, Rainier was training Albert for it since his early childhood.

<Removed personal comments/Mandy>

I missed he was suing over the Thelma articles. Before the end of the year I see Albert in a happy relationship with a woman the public will have to accept he loves. You know it doesn't matter what anyone thinks but him as to his heart and hers. So she doesn't fit the Princess standards in the views of some. What are they? To be a Princess you need to be female born into it or marry a Prince. You can be trained even as Grace was on the correct protocol. Charlene spoke to the press personally I wouldn't and say no comment unless Albert gave the approval and we don't know if he told her it was okay to speak or not. He knew taking her in public like that would cause a stir. It's also a good way to find out if she would be able to handle it. She's doesn't seem afraid of the press or attention. Besides you need to be friends before lovers.

 

[pinklady1991]

I missed he was suing over the Thelma articles. Before the end of the year I see Albert in a happy relationship with a woman the public will have to accept he loves. You know it doesn't matter what anyone thinks but him as to his heart and hers. So she doesn't fit the Princess standards in the views of some. What are they? To be a Princess you need to be female born into it or marry a Prince. You can be trained even as Grace was on the correct protocol. Charlene spoke to the press personally I wouldn't and say no comment unless Albert gave the approval and we don't know if he told her it was okay to speak or not. He knew taking her in public like that would cause a stir. It's also a good way to find out if she would be able to handle it. She's doesn't seem afraid of the press or attention. Besides you need to be friends before lovers.

The buzz over the Thelma articles was quick and the rumours were kept to Germany, some of the "lesser" magazines in France, and Spain. It was around mid-October. Honestly, I want PA -- or anyone for that matter -- to be happy and the idea that Charlene is comfortable with the press is a good sign to me. Yet I would probably behave in the same way as Lady M. Yes, you can teach someone protocol but you can't teach them to be "smart" (note: I'm using that for lack of a better word); unfortunately, you have to learn that through trial and error.

Dealing with the press is a double-edged sword: you can either try to avoid them and they hound you all the more, or you can chat them up but then they always want more. The trick is to find a balance.

 

[leahteresa]

It's really hard to take PA seriously when it comes to women. Sorry but too many on his arm. Also, you almost have to be missing a screw to think that being that famous and that much in the spotlight is really appealing. I dare to say his position probably attracts some not so good apples. I knew in just a few months that I was going to marry my husband and I had a really good instinct almost imediately. I imagine PA probably has some trust issues...

Oh and Lady Mac, I must agree, being friends first is best. Everybody is different but the general premise of establishing a level of mutual respect early on is a good one. This is why, I think, the general rule among the royal girlfriends and mates is to keep your mouth shut. One little sentence or comment can start a frenzy. CW said something (or so I've read) about Torino being a good place for "two people in love" or "lovers" (depending on the translation) and it was a bit much. Coupled with pics of his hand on her thigh and her laying on him in the stands....just not such a good idea. (If she even said it, press lies all the time) The impression it leaves is less than honorable and a bit too personal for the entire world......it sort of leaves her looking like she is kissing and telling.....IMO

 

[lea]

I have a hard time believing he will ever marry. He seems to be like George Clooney, always girlfriends around, but focused on his life, sports, and camaraderie with his male friends. It's as if there is a distrust of women that stops them from having lasting relationships. Most people would get over that at some point and commit to someone, but with a Prince or an actor, why should they when there will always be plenty of women around willing to be girlfriends?

I also think it would be sad for him to marry someone not his equal just so that children could be produced. And I have to wonder if he can find someone his equal young enough to have children. I'm not criticizing youth, just saying that often there is a difference in the views of different age groups.

 

[Laviollette]

I'm not saying that CW would be the best wife for PA but she's the best candidate in quite a while it seems, which does not reflect very good on PA. He goes for this type of young woman. That's just the situation with him and that's why he's often disappointing to a lot of people.

 

[rarotonga]

Anyone interested in having a poll on whether there will be an engagement announcement on April 19th, as Bunte (the German tabloid/mag) reports? By the way, from what I gathered, and correct me please if I'm inaccurate, Bunte reported that PA and CW met in May 2005, when they met in 2001.

 

[pinklady1991]

Anyone interested in having a poll on whether there will be an engagement announcement on April 19th, as Bunte (the German tabloid/mag) reports? By the way, from what I gathered, and correct me please if I'm inaccurate, Bunte reported that PA and CW met in May 2005, when they met in 2001.

I believe PA will be at the North Pole on April 19...part of the plan not to be around on his parents' 50th wedding anniversary. There have been so many errors in reports that I think most magazines are out to publish a story in order to boost circulation rather than get their facts straight. I did read one interesting article (and so sorry I forgot the source) that hints that the performance at the Olympics may have been just for publicity -- I think the translation was weak but it mentioned that as the son of an actress he would be just as comfortable being known for appearances in the gossip magazines as he would for his leadership agenda.

 

[LadyS]

I have some photos from a local magazine article about Charlene Wittstock and Prince Albert. Unfortunately I can't post the article and the magazine website is subscription only.

The article just gave a run down of their meeting and them going to the winter Olympics together. She is from Benoni (same as Charlize Theron), she was living in Durban but she fell ill and moved back home.

The rest of the article is just about her swimming career.

The article is by Kerri-Ann Roper in the YOU Magazine (www.you.co.za) and the photos are taken by ER Lombard (no agency name).

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