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  1. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    ! As I said, this is HIS word, he was a supporter, and eccentric, and it did not come directly from her, therefore it's not provable. Again, second/third hand gossip that may not be true. You should also consider if she was upset, it was due to some faker pretending to be her dead niece...
  2. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    So, we have ONE person's word of some possible yet questionable second and third hand stories. That's not very strong evidence. Probably? Is that all? Can't you see how weak all this 'he said she said he talked to her she interviewed him she gave this statement saying this person said that'...
  3. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    If he had come up with numbers that claim she was AN, I bet you wouldn't take issue with him or questions his 'expertise.' We cannot blame a guy for not wanting to reveal his real name or workplace on a public forum but this does not mean he doesn't know what he's doing. Apparently all the...
  4. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    Just so you understand, Boris, I do NOT think she had an affair, I was questioning what YOU meant by 'unknown origins' and guessed that might be what you were thinking. That's all.
  5. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    No I do NOT think so, I was asking what you meant by that. Adopted? is still an extreme grasp at straws. Royalty don't go around adopting random children. He was her child, she was by that time nearly 40 years old, and had several other children. There is no reason, for any reason, to doubt his...
  6. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    from the translations again, I just noticed two more glaring things that have not been brought to light before: According to statements by Dr Graede who had cared for her during this time, stated that there were some lesions on the body of the patient, but they all had (been caused by)...
  7. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    We cannot prove she said what he claimed, especially since it contradicts her signed statement. What I was talking about you speculating on was that letter you posted once where her husband asked Von Kliest to stop bothering them since they'd already made up their minds. There was nothing in...
  8. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    Now that numbers and odds are the issue, it's time to drag out Davek's estimations based on all those of European origins and see just how likely it is AA was FS. What are the chances that Anna Anderson was Franziska Schanskowksa based on DNA? By DaveK Some AA proponents assert that AA’s...
  9. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    Like what? This person said this and that? Those estimations = 0. That means she's reeeeaaallly not AN and then some! Do you mean switched, tampered with, etc.? If so please give us proof. I'd say the chances all of them (intestine, hair, bones) were ALL tampered with are, oh, about...
  10. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    That's true AA's hairstyle had not changed (also same one she wore as FS) but she made a blunder claiming to have the same hairdo as before her "escape" since the real AN had short hair due to her head being shaved the year before. In the last two pictures of AN you can see she had short hair...
  11. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Yes, this is right, I made a mistake, however, it makes little difference since it's still just a quote from a big supporter and it cannot be proven Irene said it. The letter you post claiming Irene was 'upset' is simply stating she and her husband had made up her mind AA was not AN and did not...
  12. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Okay, to clarify my above statement before anyone accuses me of anything, here are the facts vs. what the statement says: From "Tsar": In 1994, at the very moment the DNA experts concluded that Mrs, Anderson was not the tsar's daughter, new forensic comparions of her face an ears with pictures...
  13. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    So why was the son so different? The son was the one who turned out to be right, and perhaps the father was embellishing for his own possible advantage$ And what is your proof of this? You value eyewitness testimony so much, well, Dmitri was there, so don't try to counteract what he saw with...
  14. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    PROVE IT! The letter you posted as 'proof' before says nothing of the kind. This is YOUR SPECULATION. Where is this letter and who has it? Even if it is true, you know, dying 87 year old women imagine all sorts of things that aren't true. My aunt thinks a man lives inside her wall. He's...
  15. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Okay Chat I found the source for the Olga quote you asked about, it's Vorres p. 177. Still waiting for you to clear up those false claims about the tests done for the TV show. Here's something else interesting I found, Dmitri Leuchtenberg, son of George, wrote this to Vorres, Olga's biographer...
  16. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Where on earth did you get this, you are the only person I've ever seen say it. This is a rumor, and hey, if he was willing to fake backing her for a cut of the money how can you be sure the other supporters, including the Botkins, didn't do the same? Then it means nothing. When? Under...
  17. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    And didn't she and her husband send a letter to Von Kliest telling him to leave them alone, they had already made up their minds against her? "According to AA" means nothing, since she was an imposter making up excuses. Read Peter Kurth! Sigismund was her son, and the quote is directly...
  18. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Felix Yussoupov Felix met her in 1927 and pronounced her a 'frightful playactress' and a 'wretched creature who could not possibly be the daughter of the Tsar." "I claim categorically that she is not Anastasia Nicolaievna, but just an adventuress, a hysteric and a frightful playactress. I...
  19. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    And while I'm at it, for the record, I'm going to go ahead and post, yet again, my list of quotes from those who did NOT believe AA was AN (and Chat has some of them on on his pro AA list) Princess Irene of Prussia, sister of Alexandra: "I saw immediately that she could not be one of my...
  20. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    No comment :censored: ;) We may never know the reasons some had for supporting her, whether or not they were insane, delusional, wishful thinking, and if they even really believed her and were just opportunists for the alleged fortune. But now that we have the DNA and the possibility has been...
  21. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    Just for the record here, the DNA numbers presented in "FOTR" have been questioned by many DNA knowledgeable people on another board and have not been proven to be accurate. One of the authors has questioned the authenticity of the bones and supported the Knight paper...
  22. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Her whole life, her behavior, her history of being sent to asylums (again this happening repeatedly just doesn't happen to sane people!) and most of all PRETENDING TO BE A DEAD PRINCESS and possibly even coming to believe her charade.
  23. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    Though a 99.9% match is very strong and would be enough for most people, and a switch with someone in the family being very illogical and unrealistic, other things in favor of AA being FS are that the detectives in the 20's found AA to be FS, FS looks exactly like AA, AA had mental issues and FS...
  24. Anna was Franziska

    Anna Anderson's claim to be Grand Duchess Anastasia

    Why was she in all those asylums? That doesn't happen to sane people. As FS, she was 'in and out of sanatoria'. As AA, she was taken to one when she tried to kill herself (which is a sign of mental illness) She was put in other mental institutions over the years, like the time she went on the...
  25. Anna was Franziska

    DNA and the law

    I know it's been posted somewhere here before, but for the record, here is the reason why, in the AA case, it doesn't matter if the mid 90's tests are 'outdated.' For example (this is going to be extremely oversimplified, but ok for our purposes). Here are two sequences: ACTGGGTAACGTAAGGTC...
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