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  1. Ana Von Cleves

    Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria (1858-1889) and Mayerling

    My thoughts on Mayerling According to what I have read of Rudolph and the investigation, I believe the following to be true, (I could be wrong on any or all points): 1. The authorities knew it was suicide right away, but there was an attempt to cover it up. A declared suicide cannot have a...
  2. Ana Von Cleves

    King Juan Carlos Announces Abdication: June 2, 2014

    My Thoughts on Abdication Like most who have commented here, I was shocked this morning when I heard the news. I am a bit torn about abdication. On the one hand, I hate to see this old tradition of staying till the bitter end die. (pardon the pun) However, we must remember that when...
  3. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    I don't believe anyone thinks they are in anyway under privileged. However, there is no denying that they will not receive equal treatment with the new baby. I just read the DM article of a few days ago and I see that the boy's mother claims that she has been fighting for his rights, though...
  4. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    Response toSKIPPYBOO True! It's been great fun chatting with everyone, but my parrot is sitting on his cage solemnly announcing that it is bed time and if the lights don't go out soon, he will start squawking. Good Night! Ana
  5. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    A man wrote that law and a person can equally well write another law or amend that one. And, yes, of course I know these young people are far far from disadvantaged ghetto kids. They are far luckier than most. Ana
  6. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    Well, I think that some of those that have been prepared all their lives have made terrible hashups of it, so those who are unprepared can hardly do worse. And, anyway, if one knew a given child was the heir regardless, one wouldn't wait until college graduation to begin their training or...
  7. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    In my little worldview, the succession in Monaco would be (if no male primogeniture & legitimacy doesn't count) would be Jazmin, Alexandre and then the baby. Not going to happen, I know. Just thinking of fair play. EXACTLY! I thought I was long winded enough without going into the awful...
  8. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    I quite agree. And lets not forget that his daughter is old enough now to make her feelings on the matter clear. He is probably doing what she wants and helping her keep the privacy she obviously wants. If she wanted publicity, all she has to do is start parading in front of cameras and they...
  9. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    I am just playing devil's advocate here. And I think these discussions are quite fun, so please bare with me!!!:flowers: I don't see why this rule of undoubted legitimacy can't be changed. After all, less than 50 years ago, it was unthinkable that a first born girl should hold a place above a...
  10. Ana Von Cleves

    Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

    Responsibility Long ago and far away, when I was in college, a male college was complaining to me that his wife had gotten pregnant again on purpose because she wanted another and he didn't. I asked him what he was doing for birth control and was very unsympathetic when I pointed out that if...
  11. Ana Von Cleves

    Richard I "The Lionheart" (1157-1199)

    I'm sorry, but I find that depiction of Berengaria horrible and likely has no basis in reality. I understand that many scholars also disagree with this sort of "forensic" sculpting. Even when a skull is used as the basis, there is so much of the face that is not governed by the skull. The...
  12. Ana Von Cleves

    Last Hours, Death, Transfer from France, Funeral and Interment

    Here!! Here!! I could not agree with you more. I hope Nazma and the countless others like her have finally gotten a life!
  13. Ana Von Cleves

    "Grace of Monaco" (Cannes May 2014, US release uncertain)

    WOW! Be sure to report back. Sounds like you will be taking one for the team!!;) And poor Nicole! to fear ageing so...:sad: ANA
  14. Ana Von Cleves

    Henry VII (1457-1509) and Elizabeth of York (1466-1503)

    In response to Xenia about Mary I. I believe everyone was sick of war. Also, I believe the only close alternatives were Scottish or French. There were some English Dukes who could have been considered. But Henry VIII had actually named both Mary and Elizabeth as heirs after Edward and I...
  15. Ana Von Cleves

    Henry VII (1457-1509) and Elizabeth of York (1466-1503)

    My take on Richard III The following is just my opinion based on all I have read on the subject: I think Richard snapped. Yes, he was a loyal brother to Edward IV and was loved in the North where he was in charge during Edward's reign. We should remember that for most of Richard's life, he...
  16. Ana Von Cleves

    Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria (1858-1889) and Mayerling

    Mayerling 1968 with Omar Shariff and Catherin Deneuve & Ava Gardner not to be missed. Fall of Eagles 1970's mini series which deals with the whole lead up to WWI devotes an episode to this. Available on Youtube...I just watched it a couple of months ago. I believe both tout the double suicide...
  17. Ana Von Cleves

    King George IV (1762-1830)

    Unfortunate German Princesses Ummmmm.....Speaking of German Princesses who came to England only to be told they were smelly, by a perfectly repulsive groom who thought he was still god's gift... :whistling::rofl: Seriously, I always felt a bit sorry for both Caroline & Anne of Cleves. And I...
  18. Ana Von Cleves

    The Birth of HRH Prince George of Cambridge: July 22, 2013

    Hmmm. How come the quote isn't in the box like everyone else's???
  19. Ana Von Cleves

    The Act of Settlement 1701 and the Line of Succession 1: Ending 2022

    In plainer language, who besides the Jacobite heirs, other catholic heirs & the protestant Hanovers could have been considered to succeed Anne?
  20. Ana Von Cleves

    The Act of Settlement 1701 and the Line of Succession 1: Ending 2022

    :previous: But I specifically discounted the step siblings who were of course the jabobite heirs. . . . . . . . . . . . I have been giving the question of "right" some thought since I watched the program about Richard III and one Ricardian positively wailed about his "right" to rule and Henry...
  21. Ana Von Cleves

    The Act of Settlement 1701 and the Line of Succession 1: Ending 2022

    Queen Anne I'm new to the forums, so forgive me if this subject has been recently discussed. I have read in various sources that there were anything up to 500 possible successors to Queen Anne besides the Hanovers. If you disallow her step siblings and other Catholics, who were the top...
  22. Ana Von Cleves

    Hello I'm new

    I am new as well. I have been lurking for a while and decided to join the discussion. I am in Kentucky./
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