Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

Well, if Marius is adamant there will be a trial and during that trial it will be almost certain that Juliane Snekkestad will be asked into whether the CP-Couple knew anything and whether she told them anything and what they were told and what they may have witnessed. While I'm in little doubt Snekkestad will end up being acquitted, her testimony and that of other possible witnesses could very well end up being very damaging for the CP-Couple. Even if they in regards to the law did absolutely nothing wrong.

Surely Marius, if explained slowly and often enough, will realize how much damage his counter-suit against Snekkestad will do to the reputation of his mother and bonus-dad and even his siblings.
I get the feeling that he wants to get back on his mother and Haakon in some sort of psychological way. In a similar way to some teenagers acting outrageously to hurt their parents.

Anyway, 2024 truly sucked for the NRF. 2025 will be a lot worse.

Muhler said:

Anyway, 2024 truly sucked for the NRF. 2025 will be a lot worse.

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Yes, it surely looks like that now.

According to Se og Hør's information, Marius is back in Oslo.

Back in Olso?
So a canceled event and canceled state council from Haakon just for a long weekend trip to London. How fun.
Sorry, maybe they were working on rehab or whatever but the optics is just that, a shopping trip to London.

polyesco said:

Back in Olso?
So a canceled event and canceled state council from Haakon just for a long weekend trip to London. How fun.
Sorry, maybe they were working on rehab or whatever but the optics is just that, a shopping trip to London.

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If that is true, I lose all faith in the NRF and the legislature in Norway. A shopping trip to London in the middle of all those problems and lawyers working on the cases and the family just saying "We have some problems, but please leave us alone". And now, if I read between the lines , the women's accusations are being questioned? What an incredible mess this has turned out.
I cannot judge because we don't have royalty anymore in my country, but every person, well known or not with such a history of violence and accusations from several women, would have gone into custody and the process of prosecution, questioning by police would have followed law procedures which are valid for every citizen.
I really hoped that they brought Marius to a rehab in GB, which is better that him staying in Norway. I am very disappointed that this is not true.
It makes we wonder what happened on that trip. Did Marius get violent again even against his parents and they were helpless and returned back to Oslo with him?
I am really starting to feel sorry for MM and Haakon, what a nightmare they must be experiencing right now.

polyesco said:

Back in Olso?
So a canceled event and canceled state council from Haakon just for a long weekend trip to London. How fun.
Sorry, maybe they were working on rehab or whatever but the optics is just that, a shopping trip to London.

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I cannot believe this is for real.

Could we have a break in guesses ?

LadyFinn said:

Yes, it surely looks like that now.

According to Se og Hør's information, Marius is back in Oslo.

Rett hjem fra London

Mange trodde at Marius endelig skulle i gang med rehab da han og kronprins Haakon dro til London torsdag i forrige uke.

www.seher.no

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After reading this article I actually couldn't find a proof of him being back in Oslo, no photos, nor any confirmation.
Maybe we should be careful with conclusions until we get dependable facts?

Muhler said:

Well, if Marius is adamant there

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hereditarytitles said:

After reading this article I actually couldn't find a proof of him being back in Oslo, no photos, nor any confirmation.
Maybe we should be careful with conclusions until we get dependable facts?

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Exactly!

I have a feeling there's a lot more going on than we have any idea about -- with the family, with the lawyers, and so on.

For instance, this recent trip to London doesn't make sense in terms of rehab for Marius. If some rehab center had a sudden opening, they could have put Marius on a plane with a bodyguard and a doctor if he needed help. A 27-year-old man who has been to rehab before shouldn't need his stepfather to hold his hand on the plane.

And why would Haakon abandon his duties to take him, when Mette Marit stayed behind to attend the events Haakon ditched? She (or Marten Borg) could have taken him.

I have to think that if Marius is so fragile that he might resist going or there was any chance that he would act out on the plane, they'd have put him on someone's private jet, not risked a public scene with Haakon.

kalnel said:

I have a feeling there's a lot more going on than we have any idea about -- with the family, with the lawyers, and so on.

For instance, this recent trip to London doesn't make sense in terms of rehab for Marius. If some rehab center had a sudden opening, they could have put Marius on a plane with a bodyguard and a doctor if he needed help. A 27-year-old man who has been to rehab before shouldn't need his stepfather to hold his hand on the plane.

And why would Haakon abandon his duties to take him, when Mette Marit stayed behind to attend the events Haakon ditched? She (or Marten Borg) could have taken him.

I have to think that if Marius is so fragile that he might resist going or there was any chance that he would act out on the plane, they'd have put him on someone's private jet, not risked a public scene with Haakon.

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A very good point.

But why the sudden departure if they were merely going to see a specialist or something like that?
And if they were going to set Marius up in UK, out of sight and mind, there would be no need for Haakon to excuse himself from any duties. That could have been handled next week or last week and no one would have noticed.
They could also have been looking at a rehab center with Marius, but again, why the sudden rush?

A thought that lurks in the back of my mind is that intention was indeed to have Marius committed to a rehab and that he was finally persuaded to go voluntarily, hence the rush.
But once there Marius changed his mind - and was allowed to change his mind - then went shopping with mother before returning home. And Haakon? Perhaps he returned to Norway ASAP as he was supposed to be Regent.

I'm not an admirer of Se&Hør in any country where the mag is published but I do believe that the claim that Marius is back in Norway is plausible. Otherwise no need to mention it. There may not be photographic evidence of that - yet. But if more reports from other media surface, it will be undeniable. It will be next to impossible to hide Marius anywhere in Norway now - and I doubt he is interested in being in hiding. Too boring.
I also noticed that Se&Hør published a photo of Marius and MM inside the shopping center in UK. Normally that would be questionable in regards to the privacy law in Norway, but here I guess that Se&Hør breached that with the argument "unless it serves a higher purpose". The higher purpose in this case being to document and validate what Se&Hør has been writing. The comings and goings of Marius and the CP-Couple being of major public interest in regards to this whole affair. They would certainly have a pretty strong case in a court.

There is a lot about this trip that is a mystery to me… But if we think about it - it must have been planned to some extent, even if it clearly was not for long… The destination was obviously London or somewhere around London… And it happened on the same day as King Harald and Queen Sonja was returning to Norway - from UK…

My first thought was - like for many i think - that Marius was going to check in at a private rehab facility somewhere around London that is used to treat famous patients and can offer some degree of privacy - and that the medical staff and therspists may have wanted to meet his parents as well given his unique family-situation with being a member of a royal family while at the same time not being a royal himself…..

Given the timing with the King’s and Queen’s trip i thought maybe someone in the British Royal Family had reached out to them and offered a contact, and an appointment was quickly made that way…

But what puzzles me too is that Haakon traveled with Marius and Mette-Marit stayed behind for the day to host the County-Governors at the Palace… The natural thing to do would be for Mette-Marit as mother to travel with her son while Haakon finished the working-day and then joined his wife and stepson in UK…

So there must be something else, or at least something more going on…

If it’s not that simple that the contact between Marius and his mother has become so bad that Haakon had to go with Marius instead… But Mette-Marits recent actions contradicts that so i would be very surprised if it’s that way…

Time will tell i suppose

Todo Alicante a local newspaper in Spain reports Marius is in rehab in London. The article seems a bit flimsy.

Being in a London rehab facility makes more sense than him being seen in Oslo, let's hope it's true and that's why Harald, Sonja, H & MM were in London lately.

The shopping trip could have been to pick up some things that he wanted that weren't provided by the rehab facility, maybe some nicer quality toiletries. Having had a relative in rehab I can tell you in my experience they give you a list of things that you can buy on your own on supervised shopping trips. They have to be inspected on return and these supervised visits are infrequent. Moreso the deeper you get into treatment. I guess we shall see.

Healthy Sceptic said:

Being in a London rehab facility makes more sense than him being seen in Oslo, let's hope it's true and that's why Harald, Sonja, H & MM were in London lately.

The shopping trip could have been to pick up some things that he wanted that weren't provided by the rehab facility, maybe some nicer quality toiletries. Having had a relative in rehab I can tell you in my experience they give you a list of things that you can buy on your own on supervised shopping trips. They have to be inspected on return and these supervised visits are infrequent. Moreso the deeper you get into treatment. I guess we shall see.

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Right, but these are people who have staff that can run errands and arrange things. I can't imagine the Crown Prince of Norway dropped everything to fly to London in case his stepson needs deodorant and dental floss in rehab.

I have to wonder what was so urgent and compelling that Haakon needed to be physically present in London. Legal and medical issues are the only things that come to mind.

kalnel said:

Right, but these are people who have staff that can run errands and arrange things. I can't imagine the Crown Prince of Norway dropped everything to fly to London in case his stepson needs deodorant and dental floss in rehab.

I have to wonder what was so urgent and compelling that Haakon needed to be physically present in London. Legal and medical issues are the only things that come to mind.

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Marius's mother isn't going to let staff spend time with her son right as he goes into rehab. She'll want to be with him every moment. Haakon was probably there to support her (and Marius), plus there are all kinds of legal issues involved in getting someone into rehab, especially if they've proved to be unwilling to go (or stay) in the past. There are forms to sign, releases (maybe on both sides), things that Haakon as Marius's step-father needs to be involved in.

Pure speculation, so I'll leave it at that. I sincerely hope that's the case and that he really does take it seriously this time.

Muhler said:

Well, if Marius is adamant there will be a trial and during that trial it will be almost certain that Juliane Snekkestad will be asked into whether the CP-Couple knew anything and whether she told them anything and what they were told and what they may have witnessed. While I'm in little doubt Snekkestad will end up being acquitted, her testimony and that of other possible witnesses could very well end up being very damaging for the CP-Couple. Even if they in regards to the law did absolutely nothing wrong.

Surely Marius, if explained slowly and often enough, will realize how much damage his counter-suit against Snekkestad will do to the reputation of his mother and bonus-dad and even his siblings.
I get the feeling that he wants to get back on his mother and Haakon in some sort of psychological way. In a similar way to some teenagers acting outrageously to hurt their parents.

Anyway, 2024 truly sucked for the NRF. 2025 will be a lot worse.

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Absolutely agree that there is a conscious or unconscious desire to get back at his family.

Hans-Rickard said:

There is a lot about this trip that is a mystery to me… But if we think about it - it must have been planned to some extent, even if it clearly was not for long… The destination was obviously London or somewhere around London… And it happened on the same day as King Harald and Queen Sonja was returning to Norway - from UK…

My first thought was - like for many i think - that Marius was going to check in at a private rehab facility somewhere around London that is used to treat famous patients and can offer some degree of privacy - and that the medical staff and therspists may have wanted to meet his parents as well given his unique family-situation with being a member of a royal family while at the same time not being a royal himself…..

Given the timing with the King’s and Queen’s trip i thought maybe someone in the British Royal Family had reached out to them and offered a contact, and an appointment was quickly made that way…

But what puzzles me too is that Haakon traveled with Marius and Mette-Marit stayed behind for the day to host the County-Governors at the Palace… The natural thing to do would be for Mette-Marit as mother to travel with her son while Haakon finished the working-day and then joined his wife and stepson in UK…

So there must be something else, or at least something more going on…

If it’s not that simple that the contact between Marius and his mother has become so bad that Haakon had to go with Marius instead… But Mette-Marits recent actions contradicts that so i would be very surprised if it’s that way…

Time will tell i suppose

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Perhaps Haakon went because he knew that MM would give in to whatever Marius wanted.

kalnel said:

Right, but these are people who have staff that can run errands and arrange things. I can't imagine the Crown Prince of Norway dropped everything to fly to London in case his stepson needs deodorant and dental floss in rehab.

I have to wonder what was so urgent and compelling that Haakon needed to be physically present in London. Legal and medical issues are the only things that come to mind.

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Perhaps Haakon was prepared to have him admitted involuntarily- citing that he is a danger to himself and others.

If your 27-year-old ‘child’ is an addict/mentally ill/both, and he is resisting treatment, you would do everything you can to persuade him to enter treatment. And it may be that Haakon had the upper hand in persuading his son to get help.

And if he agrees, you wouldn’t wait around for him to think it over, change his mind, leave town, get high- you’d take the next flight to the location of treatment. Never mind your jammies and toothbrush. The place of treatment is going to give him a list of what he can enter with, so you can shop when you get there.

The chance of the patient fleeing is lessened if he is in a strange location, away from his ‘helpful’ friends. And if a ‘scene’ with his parents occurs, he may go unnoticed and unphotographed in a different locale.

You strike while the iron is hot if the ‘addict’ has agreed to go. You may miss important appointments or duties at home, but you don’t miss the chance to get the person help when he’s amenable. And if Marius is in rehab now, then it will have been worth it. The health crisis of a family member must come first.

“If you bungle raising your children, I don’t think whatever else you do well matters very much.”
Jacqueline Kennedy

ladongas said:

If your 27-year-old ‘child’ is an addict/mentally ill/both, and he is resisting treatment, you would do everything you can to persuade him to enter treatment. And it may be that Haakon had the upper hand in persuading his son to get help.

And if he agrees, you wouldn’t wait around for him to think it over, change his mind, leave town, get high- you’d take the next flight to the location of treatment. Never mind your jammies and toothbrush. The place of treatment is going to give him a list of what he can enter with, so you can shop when you get there.

The chance of the patient fleeing is lessened if he is in a strange location, away from his ‘helpful’ friends. And if a ‘scene’ with his parents occurs, he may go unnoticed and unphotographed in a different locale.

You strike while the iron is hot if the ‘addict’ has agreed to go. You may miss important appointments or duties at home, but you don’t miss the chance to get the person help when he’s amenable. And if Marius is in rehab now, then it will have been worth it. The health crisis of a family member must come first.

“If you bungle raising your children, I don’t think whatever else you do well matters very much.”
Jacqueline Kennedy

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I totally agree. And I see Haakon going with him as being more authoritative than MM, which mustn’t be difficult.

I can imagine they wanted him go there for a long time and Marius resisting the idea. Maybe Marius has conceded during that day and they grabbed the opportunity.
I imagine both H and MM being at their wits’ end with his spiraling life and being helpless in helping him. In one way, all that happened in August might be a blessing in disguise for his addiction (maybe addiction is his main problem). I don’t know how to say it without appearing insensitive towards the victim(s) of his abuse. And who are those who need the biggest support. But Marius has to change ways for it to not happen again.

When the relationship with Marius ended, Nora Haukland believed that he needed treatment for substance abuse.
Nora says that she informed Haakon and Mette-Marit about Marius' problems. It happened in a meeting with them in the summer 2023 when her relationship with Marius ended.
- I said he had to go to rehabilitation. Everything got even worse after we broke up, and it didn't seem like he was in control, says Haukland in an interview with Aftenposten.

Se og Hør quotes Nora's interview in Aftenposten:
- They (CP couple) said they would try. We all tried to get him into rehab, but you can't force a grown man. It is disrespectful of Marius not to take responsibility and do something to make things better. After all, it continuously only affects others.
Nora claims violence was not a topic in the meeting with the CP couple. She also praises the CP family and describes them as warm and nice. At the same time, she calls for Marius to take responsibility: He is not "little Marius" anymore. He is a grown man and must take responsibility for his own actions. I hope he does.
She opens up about the relationship, and admits that she was very scared. Nora says that she locked herself in the bedroom or bathroom several times.

And of course the Palace and Marius' lawyer don't comment on the interview in Aftenposten.

"What is becoming more and more obvious in this case is that the Norwegian media should have picked up on this a long time ago. Marius Borg Høiby has been far too, far too protected."

LadyFinn said:

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Se og Hør quotes Nora's interview in Aftenposten:
- They (CP couple) said they would try. We all tried to get him into rehab, but you can't force a grown man. It is disrespectful of Marius not to take responsibility and do something to make things better. After all, it continuously only affects others.
Nora claims violence was not a topic in the meeting with the CP couple. She also praises the CP family and describes them as warm and nice. At the same time, she calls for Marius to take responsibility: He is not "little Marius" anymore. He is a grown man and must take responsibility for his own actions. I hope he does.
She opens up about the relationship, and admits that she was very scared. Nora says that she locked herself in the bedroom or bathroom several times.

- Ba kronprinsparet om hjelp

Varslet kronprinsesse Mette-Marit og kronprins Haakon om Marius Borg Høibys rusmisbruk etter bruddet.

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And of course the Palace and Marius' lawyer don't comment on the interview in Aftenposten.

"What is becoming more and more obvious in this case is that the Norwegian media should have picked up on this a long time ago. Marius Borg Høiby has been far too, far too protected."

Altfor beskyttet

Norske medier har forsvinnende få bilder av Marius Borg Høiby. Det viser hvor beskyttet han har vært.

www.dagbladet.no

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And it's getting worse by the day...

Will Marius now claim Haukland abused him as well?

What she says is true - to an extent: While Marius is an adult, he is not a grown man. He does not and probably cannot take responsibility because he's too far out now and/or because he has never learned to take responsibility and truly care about anyone but himself.

It is also true that the media (among others) have shielded Marius and the NRF for way too long. Well, that's over now. They won't show mercy now, for fear of being accused of still shielding the NRF. Even when this Marius thing has quietened in say a year from now, the press will still keep a very vigilant eye on the NRF, especially the CP-Couple. The press will crack down on even the slightest mistake or hint of mistake and entitlement. That's going to define Haakon's reign.
On the other hand it may well turn out that Ingrid will become the new darling, who can do no wrong. You can expect to see her face on the weekly mags, every week. - That's a tremendous pressure I don't envy anyone! And I'm personally very annoyed with her parents for letting her down by being so... passive.

Muhler said:

On the other hand it may well turn out that Ingrid will become the new darling, who can do no wrong. You can expect to see her face on the weekly mags, every week. - That's a tremendous pressure I don't envy anyone!

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I think she’s already there. And since it will be hard for her to do anything worse than her brother, we should expect her to remain so, at least until she is married with some cute kids.

Muhler said:

And I'm personally very annoyed with her parents for letting her down by being so... passive.

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Somewhat like her cousins, there’s a pretty good chance IA’s upbringing + all the expectations that go with her since birth might have led her to be the mature responsible one in the family. (Remember, she’s the one her mother wished would be the doctor. We haven’t heard that for either of her brothers.)