Marius Borg Høiby News & Current Events Part 1: December 2023 -

I just think that if you are charged with a crime you get a lawyer specialising in what you are charged with, if you are charged with taxfraud you probably do not get a divorce lawyer…if you are changed with a drug crime you get a lawyer who knows about that.

Nora Haukelands lawyer certainly has deffended some of the worst criminals in Norway and hardly any lawyer is more known than him in Norway, should she not use him because of who he has deffended?

Its also not usual to sit in prison before you are convicted, had Marius been in prison since August and until his sentencing one would risk that he spent more time in prison than what he would get as a sentence which is very unfortunate. If you are not a flight risk, and not dangerous etc and the crime you are changed with has an expected sentence of less than ten years you usually do not sit in prison until you are sentenced.

Se og Hør is just milking this for everything is worth

Ghost said:

Sentenced by the public opinion? I have no doubt that Marius is on a very wrong path, I also think that he deserves to be judged like any other citizen in that situation. The only reason all this is making such a scandal is that he’s the step son of Haakon. A position he didn’t chose.

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Yes, but it also goes both ways.
If one of us took out a Royal guard position with our speeding car, it would have made international news. With Marius it was swept under the rug only because he is the step son of the Crown Prince.

Snowangel said:

Se og Hør is just milking this for everything is worth

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I agree…

While i fully agree with the lion part of his ”letter”, the Chief editor of a Gossip Magazine that survives solely on ripping famous peoples private lives apart, is not in the strongest position to speak on behalf of the general public, in any way or form…

LadyFinn said:

In 2017, Mette-Marit wrote an open letter about Marius to the press. Now, seven years later, Se og Hør's editor-in-chief Ulf André Andersen writes a letter to her son. Andersen believes Marius deserves unconditional imprisonment. It's an interesting letter to read with Google translator.

Some things about the letter:
We left you alone, and although rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. We did just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best.
I don't know if your friends have given life-wise advice or if you have all laughed boyishly and mockingly at both the offended, interrogation, restraining order, weapons, drugs and arrest. But I hope the seriousness has sunk in.
(..)

- Det virker ikke som du angrer, Marius!

I 2017 skrev kronprinsesse Mette-Marit et åpent brev om Marius til pressen. Nå, syv år senere, skriver Se og Hørs Ulf André Andersen brev til hennes sønn.

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I agree wholeheartedly with this open letter by the editor. Especially the part where he admits the press failed, by ignoring rumors and reports about Marius behavior. - IMO had they written earlier about Marius, that might have helped getting him back on track.

Ghost said:

Sentenced by the public opinion? I have no doubt that Marius is on a very wrong path, I also think that he deserves to be judged like any other citizen in that situation. The only reason all this is making such a scandal is that he’s the step son of Haakon. A position he didn’t chose.

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Sentenced by the public opinion? - No, sentenced by himself. The public opinion can only react to what they have been told and what they see (sometimes in person, for those who frequent the night life in Oslo).
The picture Marius has managed to paint of himself ain't pretty, to put it mildly! He hasn't even bothered to try and improve that painting by showing something approaching a semblance of remorse, by going into rehab ASAP, by taking personal responsibility, by keeping low. - It's only about now he has been finally persuaded (I dare say) to go into rehab. Fat chance he'll do more than the bare minimum.
As the editor basically said, Marius lawyer is used to defending people who already have a shady reputation and for whom the main purpose is to get of as lightly as possible and reputation be damned. Other lawyers may have been just as concerned about Marius reputation, because after all Marius is, officially, a first-time offender. (Apart from the fine for possession of drugs for personal use, I.e. a very small amount.) In such a case reputation really does matter.

No, Marius did not chose the life he got. No one has.
But Marius enjoyed the perks of that life, without the responsibilities and without the public scrutiny that Ingrid and Magnus get. He had the opportunity for the best education, regardless of field, that Norway can provide. He lived a luxurious life, that most can only dream of. He was loved, that's for certain. The NRF have many faults but they are obviously very much a loving close-knit family. He did not need to work for a living, still don't. He did not need to pay rent (or he simply would not be able to pay the rent for his very generous home at Skaugum.)
Marius has never been in want of anything - except - discipline.
He was failed in the respect and he has never learned it by himself.

Unfortunately Marius has never been allowed to grow as a person. He has never been allowed to overcome. He has never been allowed to accomplish. - It very much appears that he has always been excused, always been told it isn't his fault.
The best thing for Marius IMO would have been six months on a school ship when he was 16-20 years old. Because there is no entitlement on a yardarm 30 meters above deck in the middle of the Atlantic. Instead up there he would have grown and found discipline, self-respect and pride in himself as well as empathy for others. Accomplishment.

fabaunty said:

Very valid point's , kalnel ,I agree that the selection of an attorney with a history of defending , um ,,, shall we say "dodgy individuals" ,may allow the NRF some distance from some of the inevitable fallout . However they still have to negotiate the fact that for almost a decade Marius has been acting with impunity in illegal activities , with known convicted criminals on NRF grounds , knowing that nothing will be reported in the press , and no I do not excuse the responsibility of the press in this matter . Perhaps if Marius's actions , addictions , associations had been made public before his admitted abuse of his then partner , then maybe he would have taken his therapy "more seriously" ?

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Who has to negotiate it? It's not Marius' problem that no one reported on or punished his past activities. You can't expect his family to report him to the police or media, either.

Yes, allowing a criminal element into the royal estate was alarming, but that isn't ultimately a "Marius issue." It's a question of how the CP couple and their advisers handle security. Whether they ever discuss that publicly is an open question.

Some might say that the police should have been more aggressive in punishing him for bad behavior in the past, but he's a little fish in a pond with big criminal fish swimming around. Arresting him previously might have looked like they were targeting him unfairly and wasting resources on this nepo-baby.

As for the media, they make their decisions based on what sells papers, not what is good for Marius. I found the editor's letter today completely disingenuous. He doesn't care what happens to Marius; he cares whether this sensational story continues to attract readers.

One of the editor's comments (translated via Google) was especially obnoxious. When describing the media's response to MM's letter asking them to leave Marius alone, he said: "We in the press dimmed the spotlights. We left you alone, and even though rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. You must be allowed to express yourself, just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best."

So, if only the Norwegian media had hounded this guy and taken his freedom away, he wouldn't have gotten in this mess? What nonsense!

polyesco said:

Yes, but it also goes both ways.
If one of us took out a Royal guard position with our speeding car, it would have made international news. With Marius it was swept under the rug only because he is the step son of the Crown Prince.

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But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.

kalnel said:

But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.

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Bragging about something is admitting something, isn't it?
And if you look at a photo over Skaugum you can see the sentry box at the bend of a two-lane road. So I'd say they had just cause to brag about their drive and near miss.

kalnel said:

But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.

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I will have to look up the articles again but there is a picture of his car taken out a fence. He and his buddies posted about it

I think everything there is to be said about Marius has been said!! It's time for the prosecution to bring action against Marius and let the court litigate and pass sentencing against him or close the case.

kalnel said:

Who has to negotiate it? It's not Marius' problem that no one reported on or punished his past activities. You can't expect his family to report him to the police or media, either.

Yes, allowing a criminal element into the royal estate was alarming, but that isn't ultimately a "Marius issue." It's a question of how the CP couple and their advisers handle security. Whether they ever discuss that publicly is an open question.

Some might say that the police should have been more aggressive in punishing him for bad behavior in the past, but he's a little fish in a pond with big criminal fish swimming around. Arresting him previously might have looked like they were targeting him unfairly and wasting resources on this nepo-baby.

As for the media, they make their decisions based on what sells papers, not what is good for Marius. I found the editor's letter today completely disingenuous. He doesn't care what happens to Marius; he cares whether this sensational story continues to attract readers.

One of the editor's comments (translated via Google) was especially obnoxious. When describing the media's response to MM's letter asking them to leave Marius alone, he said: "We in the press dimmed the spotlights. We left you alone, and even though rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. You must be allowed to express yourself, just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best."

So, if only the Norwegian media had hounded this guy and taken his freedom away, he wouldn't have gotten in this mess? What nonsense!

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By "negotiate "I meant the inevitable , ongoing fallout from the result's of MM's no doubt lovingly meant letter . The Norwegian media have admitted that ,in this editors own words , they "dimmed the spotlight" on Marius , specifically naming his mother as the reason . What a cop out . I did not realise, as a non Norwegian that not "hounding " Marius in the public press might have prevented this mess . Marius has admitted to having serious addiction issues for almost a decade , admitted that he knew that the "free public press " in Norway would not publish / would in effect "cover up " behaviour that would have resulted in a serious scandal and likely criminal charges . I do not consider it "nonsense " to feel that if ,not only Marius , but his birth parents / step parents had been publicly held responsible for his behaviour , then he might , I can only say might, have taken treatment more seriously . I can , as we all do only speak as an outsider . I cannot even begin to comprehend what the past decade has put his family , Marius , his partners through . In my own family , alcohol is a curse . My thoughts and prayers are with his victims and family , and of course Marius .

kalnel said:

Who has to negotiate it? It's not Marius' problem that no one reported on or punished his past activities. You can't expect his family to report him to the police or media, either.

Yes, allowing a criminal element into the royal estate was alarming, but that isn't ultimately a "Marius issue." It's a question of how the CP couple and their advisers handle security. Whether they ever discuss that publicly is an open question.

Some might say that the police should have been more aggressive in punishing him for bad behavior in the past, but he's a little fish in a pond with big criminal fish swimming around. Arresting him previously might have looked like they were targeting him unfairly and wasting resources on this nepo-baby.

As for the media, they make their decisions based on what sells papers, not what is good for Marius. I found the editor's letter today completely disingenuous. He doesn't care what happens to Marius; he cares whether this sensational story continues to attract readers.

One of the editor's comments (translated via Google) was especially obnoxious. When describing the media's response to MM's letter asking them to leave Marius alone, he said: "We in the press dimmed the spotlights. We left you alone, and even though rumors of a debauched party life reached us more and more often, we thought okay. You must be allowed to express yourself, just as your mother wanted. Today we see the result. It is not certain that full freedom was the best."

So, if only the Norwegian media had hounded this guy and taken his freedom away, he wouldn't have gotten in this mess? What nonsense!


But we don't know that actually happened. All we know is that Marius and his buddies bragged about crazy driving on the estate.

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By " negotiate " I meant that they the NRF , especially the CP couple have to find a path that will explain the protection afforded to Marius by the press and authorities over and above that afforded to even the most privileged Norwegian . I absolutely agree that the fact of his mothers marriage to CP Haakon meant that Marius was never going to have an average life . However , with great privilege comes responsibility . No, Marius was never going to have an official Royal role , he was nevertheless always publicly , and no doubt in private , included in the NRF . What a wasted opportunity , lets hope his third decade is more positive .

Juliane Snekkestad says at the second podcast of "Chit Chat with Helle" that she has received a lot of supportive messages, but that there have also been comments in which she is accused of seeking attention.
- I can promise you one thing. If it was attention I was looking for, then I would have gone out two years ago and said all this, as it were.
For her it is about justice, that enough is enough. There was nothing more ulterior motive than that at all. It has been extremely tiring, so it is not something she went out with for attention. She can also understand that people think like that and doesn't care about the comments.

From an debate article in Nettavisen:
If Marius is as private a person as the royal house, and not least the crown princess, wants it to be, what is he doing with a diplomatic passport? Does he still live in Skaugum? Is his stay at Skaugum covered by tax money? His legal fees? Who financed his cocaine consumption? Does he still have a diplomatic passport?
Unfortunately, the royal family's tactics seem to be winning out while the people forget over time. (.)

LadyFinn said:

From an debate article in Nettavisen:
If Marius is as private a person as the royal house, and not least the crown princess, wants it to be, what is he doing with a diplomatic passport? Does he still live in Skaugum? Is his stay at Skaugum covered by tax money? His legal fees? Who financed his cocaine consumption? Does he still have a diplomatic passport?
Unfortunately, the royal family's tactics seem to be winning out while the people forget over time. (.)

Kongehusets taktikk ser dessverre ut til å vinne fram

Etter at Marius Borg Høiby ble arrestert og siktet for vold og skadeverk i august, har det vært påfallende stille fra kongehuset. Hvorfor?

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These are all the important and valid questions that needs answering!

Information to Aftenposten: The police gave Marius a notice to hand in his weapon
The police announced that they wanted to deprive Marius of the opportunity to have weapons.
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About time! He is after all under investigation for several cases of abuse against people, and with good reason.
He should have had his weapons license revoked weeks ago and he should have been told to hand in his weapon at the same time.
After all, most women worldwide who suffer a violent death are killed by their partner/boyfriend/husband/ex.

FYI.
In Scandinavia it's pretty difficult to get a license for a firearm. You basically have to have a good reason for owning one. And simplified they are in general:
Hunters, shotguns and rifles. That requires a hunting license, which includes time at the shooting range until you are proficient in using and shooting the weapon and can basically recite the legislation regarding safety, transport and storage of the weapon in your sleep.
Your criminal records are checked.
If you appear to to have a mental illnesses or have an addiction, forget it!
You are required to store your weapon and ammunition in safes at home, with the bolt stored separately from your weapon.
The police can check unannounced whether your weapon is stored safely.
If you are under investigation of a serious crime and especially if sentenced you will lose your license temporarily or permanently and your weapon must be handed over to the police for storage or confiscation. After which it will be sold at a police auction or destroyed.

Membership of a shooting club. After a considerable membership, where you have proven that are proficient with the weapon and the safety regulation you can apply for a permit to buy and own your own weapon and store it at home. Same rules as above.

Membership of the Home Guard.
Here you learn about your weapon and the safety regulations. In some cases you can store your personal weapon, be that assault rifle, pistol, machine gun or submachine gun and weapon at home, after having been checked by the security police and you being above a certain age, 20 I believe is most common. As well as 100 rounds of ammunition. But only of you are able to store the weapon, bolt and ammunition safely at home. Otherwise it will have to be stored at the depot of your unit.

And that's basically it. Forget all about a weapon for self defense.

You can also own antique firearms as a collector, but these will typically be very old, often black powder weapons, and/or rendered unable to fire. In any way it should be extremely difficult to obtain ammunition for such weapons.

Despite that there are hundreds of thousands of legal firearms in Norway and it's common for household especially in rural areas to own a firearm of some sort.

One of the worst mass shootings in Europe happened in Norway in 2011 with automatic weapons obtained legally in a country with 5 million people, and the worst in human history by a lone shooter.

I'm sorry Muhler, but Scandinavian laws are not more difficult to obtain firearms than in any other country in Europe. In Spain, it's impossible to get a pistol or an automatic weapon by a civilian. The only guns allowed are double barrel shotguns for hunting and farmers in specific parts of the country, with a mountain of checks before the license is given.

Even the farmers granted permits to defend themselves against attacks from bears are very aware the animals are protected and their shotgun is a more defensive/deterrent mechanism than anything else.

Norway has always been very laxed with firearms laws.

Alondra said:

One of the worst mass shootings in Europe happened in Norway in 2011 with automatic weapons obtained legally in a country with 5 million people, and the worst in human history by a lone shooter.

I'm sorry Muhler, but Scandinavian laws are not more difficult to obtain firearms than in any other country in Europe. In Spain, it's impossible to get a pistol or an automatic weapon by a civilian. The only guns allowed are double barrel shotguns for hunting and farmers in specific parts of the country, with a mountain of checks before the license is given.

Even the farmers granted permits to defend themselves against attacks from bears are very aware the animals are protected and their shotgun is a more defensive/deterrent mechanism than anything else.

Norway has always been very laxed with firearms laws.

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Thanks.
I'm sure there are stricter laws (as well as less strict laws) elsewhere in Europe but I'm not so familiar with them that I will presume to write about them, so I only wrote about the general laws in Scandinavia today, especially is this applies to Norway.

Anyway, I'm glad Marius was required to hand in his (legal) weapon. I'm sure everyone will agree that a person who has admitted to have an addiction as well as mental issues, should not posses a firearm of any kind. In fact he should have handed it over by himself long ago. Or been persuaded to hand it over. I wouldn't sleep well if I knew my son had an addiction, anger issues and (according to Marius himself) mental issues as well - combined with also having a firearm and, we must assume, ammunition at home. I would at the very least be concerned about a possible suicide. And after the death of Ari Behn I would be very worried about a possible suicide!
In that light I hope and trust MM and Haakon made sure long ago to get hold of Marius weapon and had it stored safely elsewhere.
It's also good the license has (finally) been revoked. After all with a license it's so much easier and faster to buy new weapons and ammunition.

I just hope Marius hasn't got other (illegal) weapons lying around.

Do we know what kind of weapon he possessed? I hope it wasn't the machine-gun looking weapon which he was posing with.

At Aftenposten (you can read the paywall article with Google translator)
Marius no longer has access to the crown prince couple's residence and the secured part of Skaugum.
Aftenposten is informed of this from several sources. Marius has previously had access to the main house. He has now lost access to this area, Aftenposten has been informed.
The Royal House's Communications Manager Guri Varpe: We don't comment on details of access control or security conditions at royal properties.

hereditarytitles said:

Do we know what kind of weapon he possessed? I hope it wasn't the machine-gun looking weapon which he was posing with.

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I doubt it is possible to own a machine gun legally in Norway. Is it?

The Lawyer for Juliane Snekkestad has formally requested that the police question CP Mette Marit in connection with the case against Marius.
The lawyer Petter Grødum says:
"The situation regarding evidence in this case is such that we find a matter of course that we now get her explanation (statement). I actually believe it would be unnatural (most unusual) if she does not answer questions from the police. A explanation from the Crown Princess will in my opinion shed new light in regards to the case against her son."

The smile and pose of someone who is deeply sorry for the physical abuse against an ex girlfriend. Who this time will take his rehabilitation very seriously.

Press chief in the Oslo police district, Unni Grøndal, confirms to VG that the police have received the petition.
- Could it be relevant to interrogate her (Mette-Marit)?
- We have to get back to that.
VG has tried to get in touch with the Royal Palace, but has not received a reply.

polyesco said:

The smile and pose of someone who is deeply sorry for the physical abuse against an ex girlfriend. Who this time will take his rehabilitation very seriously.

https://www.seher.no/images/82147424.webp?imageId=82147424&width=1960&height=1118&format=webp

Viser finger'n til oppslaget

Viser nok en gang at han ikke tar saken på alvor.

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The current edition of Se og Hør was on the shelves on Tuesday last week. It is unknown when the picture of Marius was taken.
- The picture speaks for itself, says the lawyer for the third women in the case, Mette Yvonne Larsen, to Dagbladet.
Nora Haukland's lawyer John Christian Elden:
- It doesn't exactly emphasize his press release about taking responsibility and showing remorse, but he may have his reasons for disliking Se og Hør, he writes in a statement to Dagbladet.

Well, it goes to show, once again, that Marius is too immature, too entitled or too stupid to understand the situation.
He is of course a bad boy, a rebel and gangsta and in that light it's no surprise he would pose like that for a camera.
I wonder too if it's a condition. I.e. he simply cannot feel empathy, understand rules, cannot understand social norms etc.
If that is so, he is, I understand, worse off, because there is currently no medication and therapy for that. And that means he's likely to re-offend.

As for the request to have Mette Marit questioned. She can easily wriggle her way out of that. But it will of course put the NRF in a bad light, they are after all supposed to help the authorities as best as they can as the model citizens they are expected to be.
So it's IMO basically a finger pointing at Mette Marit saying: you know, did or did not do something, whatever that may be.
A number of possibilities pops up in my mind and probably yours as well.

AFAIK according to Norwegian legislation Mette Marit cannot be forced to give evidence against her son, because they are very closely related. Not even in court.
But Haakon is only a bonus-dad so he could I suppose be called up to give evidence in court - in theory.

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It's interesting that Marius has now been barred from entering the restricted area of Skaugum, and that basically means where the NRF lives. I suspect this is a government decision. Because based on the behavior of the NRF, in particular the CP-Couple, I doubt it's something they have decided - on the contrary. Otherwise they would have done it long ago.

Marius seems to have no idea in the situation he is involved in. Or maybe he has an idea but doesn't want to know.
Or he may think that because he is linked to the NRF, he will not take any responsibility.

Haakon, Mette-Marit, and their security team at Skaugum are all game for interrogation. Recall that Marius destroyed Skaugum property, and brought shady characters and criminals on to the property. Also was there not reported theft of property at Skaugum? The CP couple under normal circumstances should be asked to give statements and should be questioned. However as mentioned, I am sure they will find a way to wiggle out of it.

Muhler said:

But Haakon is only a bonus-dad so he could I suppose be called up to give evidence in court - in theory.

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I think any lawyer worth their salt would argue a stepparent like Haakon counts as a parent — he’s spent more time raising Marius than his biological dad has.

Muhler said:

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It's interesting that Marius has now been barred from entering the restricted area of Skaugum, and that basically means where the NRF lives. I suspect this is a government decision. Because based on the behavior of the NRF, in particular the CP-Couple, I doubt it's something they have decided - on the contrary. Otherwise they would have done it long ago.

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For me it's very clear that this decision came outside Haakon/Mette-Marit. Real consequences seems to be outside their realms or else it would have happened a long time ago.
Also his driving on the estate. Crashing and putting guards at risk should have resulted in his inability to drive past the gates.

I hope the government goes further and removes the diplomatic passport. No reason for him to have one.

The laws determining which persons cannot be compelled to testify in court (as opposed to being questioned by the police, which is never compulsory) can be read here, in Norwegian.

Web news site Uten Filter publishes the name of the third victim.
Their sources say that the petrol card and its code were not stolen, but Marius gave them voluntarily to pay off a debt to an actor in a well-known motorcycle club. The amount that this group illegitimately managed to get out of the card is very high. The Palace hasn't reported the case. In this way, the illegitimate use of the petrol card has not become a police matter. Uten Filter has sent questions to the Palace but hasn't got answers.
Marius has also supplied abundantly from the Royal House's wine cellar, far in excess of his own consumption. He has been in contact with actors for the resale of exclusive goods which obviously originate from the Royal House's wine cellar, wine bottles worth many thousands of kroner that have been tried to be sold.

LadyFinn said:

Web news site Uten Filter publishes the name of the third victim.
Their sources say that the petrol card and its code were not stolen, but Marius gave them voluntarily to pay off a debt to an actor in a well-known motorcycle club. The amount that this group illegitimately managed to get out of the card is very high. The Palace hasn't reported the case. In this way, the illegitimate use of the petrol card has not become a police matter. Uten Filter has sent questions to the Palace but hasn't got answers.
Marius has also supplied abundantly from the Royal Palace's wine cellar, far in excess of his own consumption. Marius has been in contact with actors for the resale of exclusive goods which obviously originate from the Royal Palace's wine cellar, wine bottles worth many thousands of kroner that have been tried to be sold.

Høiby: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin

Nok én av Marius Borg Høibys mange inntektskilder: Billigsalg av slottets årgangsvin.

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Would this mean that he was not given much money by his parents?