King Juan Carlos - Fiscal Investigations, Inheritance and Exile : 2018-2022


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I have to say the entire Juan Carlos / Corinna Larsen relationship really turned so toxic and Don Juan Carlos came out the worst for it all.
 
I have just watched the documentary “Juan Carlos The Downfall of the King” … a four part series … on Australian tv.

I found it fascinating.

I watched all four episodes straight through. Too much detail to share here, and most of it from Corinna Larsen herself, so her side of things of course … but I would recommend this show to anyone interested in what happened if you get the chance to watch it at some stage.
 
Sun Lion said:
I have just watched the documentary “Juan Carlos The Downfall of the King” … a four part series … on Australian tv.

I found it fascinating.

I watched all four episodes straight through. Too much detail to share here, and most of it from Corinna Larsen herself, so her side of things of course … but I would recommend this show to anyone interested in what happened if you get the chance to watch it at some stage.
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Yes I saw that on SKY TV last year ,I felt very sorry for queen Sofia and her children after watching it.
The utter humiliation that queen Sofia endured and always keeping a brave smile for the public.
 
An Ard Ri said:
Yes I saw that on SKY TV last year ,I felt very sorry for queen Sofia and her children after watching it.
The utter humiliation that queen Sofia endured and always keeping a brave smile for the public.
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I found so many things in it surprising An Ard Ri … such a different world to what most people would consider “normal”.
 
Sun Lion said:
I found so many things in it surprising An Ard Ri … such a different world to what most people would consider “normal”.
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And the claims by one insider that Sofia left him and went to live with her mother and sister after discovering JC in the act at Zarzuela.
 
An Ard Ri said:
And the claims by one insider that Sofia left him and went to live with her mother and sister after discovering JC in the act at Zarzuela.
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It struck me how Sofia was described to “ have already lost” by the time she returned.
The facade presented versus the reality too, like when she visited the hospital, but did not actually see the King, and only spoke with hospital staff before coming out again and speaking to the press.
But really, so much cash handed to the King by the leaders of other countries that there was a special room full of it just sitting there.
Even Corinna organising Felipe and Letizia’s secret, very expensive honeymoon, after the cheap honeymoon the public was told about because of Spain’s economic troubles at the time.
And the young woman’s fall from her balcony when she wouldn’t terminate the pregnancy, that inference was shocking.
Really so many things.
 
Sun Lion said:
Even Corinna organising Felipe and Letizia’s secret, very expensive honeymoon, after the cheap honeymoon the public was told about because of Spain’s economic troubles at the time.
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That story is a manipulation that the press has invented in recent years, after it was discovered that Juan Carlos had commissioned Corinna to organize the honeymoon.

The first thing, at that time there was no economic crisis in Spain, it was 2004. The economic crisis was when Juan Carlos traveled to Botswana in 2012.

It has always been known and was published in the press at the time, that the honeymoon of the then Prince and Princess of Asturias had 3 stages. After the wedding they spent 3 days in Spain visiting several places... the reason is that they had to travel the weekend following their wedding to the wedding of the Crown Prince of Jordan. Jordan was the second stage of the honeymoon, there they attended the wedding celebrations and visited Petra, and the press was present at all of those events. From Jordan they embarked on a private honeymoon, about which no information was given to the press, but there was speculation about destinations (which Corinna leaked many years later).

Contrary to what those who spread hoaxes against the Monarchy say, it was always known how the honeymoon developed. They also launch the hoax that it lasted 3 months, when the wedding was on May 22 and on June 23 they were in Madrid at the king's name day events.
 
lula said:
That story is a manipulation that the press has invented in recent years, after it was discovered that Juan Carlos had commissioned Corinna to organize the honeymoon.

The first thing, at that time there was no economic crisis in Spain, it was 2004. The economic crisis was when Juan Carlos traveled to Botswana in 2012.

It has always been known and was published in the press at the time, that the honeymoon of the then Prince and Princess of Asturias had 3 stages. After the wedding they spent 3 days in Spain visiting several places... the reason is that they had to travel the weekend following their wedding to the wedding of the Crown Prince of Jordan. Jordan was the second stage of the honeymoon, there they attended the wedding celebrations and visited Petra, and the press was present at all of those events. From Jordan they embarked on a private honeymoon, about which no information was given to the press, but there was speculation about destinations (which Corinna leaked many years later).

Contrary to what those who spread hoaxes against the Monarchy say, it was always known how the honeymoon developed. They also launch the hoax that it lasted 3 months, when the wedding was on May 22 and on June 23 they were in Madrid at the king's name day events.
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Thanks lula.

Although I don’t follow the Spanish Royal family I did find this four-part documentary riverting.

No-one comes out of it well.

Even poor Prince Albert of Monaco … having known Corinna Larsen since she was seventeen, and then not responding when she reached out to him because Spanish authorities were “visiting” her at her home in Monaco.

Her local knowledge of the procedures for private jet travel out of Nice gave her the upper hand when she was able to take off with those black boxes of photos and documents that she displayed some of the contents of, and that are now out of their reach.
And they supplied the boxes to her.

A lot of things in the documentary don’t shine a benign light on anyone … even Sofia and her daughters going to the money room when they needed cash.

The hunting trips and safaris where Royals mixed with many dubious characters … such a different aspect to their lives than what is portrayed about them via their public duties. (I mean all these “elites” and world leaders, not just the former King of Spain.)

Corinna Larsen comes across as a very smart woman, despite the comments about her from her ex-husband.

And accomplished, helping the King sort out his gun problem.

But, such a different world, such different ethics.
 
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Is this the same documentary is on HBO Max? It is called ´saving the king´ there, but I still have to watch it.
 
Sun Lion said:
Corina Larsen comes across as a very smart woman, despite the comments about her from her ex-husband.
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She is also a tremendously ambitious, narcissistic and vengeful woman, who, for example, collaborated with a corrupt Spanish police officer by leaking many things and creating interested or false information. A woman who lives very well thanks to the millions she got from Juan Carlos and his friends.

Her first husband does not speak well of her, and he even maintains a friendship with Juan Carlos. Before meeting Juan Carlos, she already had problems with her second husband's family, the Sayn Wittgensteins, who never liked her and who have always been against her using the family's title and surname.

She has created a story and has gotten some press to give her credibility, something that's easy when you know the other party is never going to talk. But she has not managed to prove anything before the British justice system.
 
Marengo said:
Is this the same documentary is on HBO Max? It is called ´saving the king´ there, but I still have to watch it.
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The one I saw last night Marengo was titled “Juan Carlos The Downfall of the King”.

It was made by Sky and distributed by NBC.

Four parts, and the version I saw had English sub-titles by our Australian tv station SBS.

Each episode finished with a note that all interviews … there are a lot with Corinna Larsen, and many with different people … the Spanish Secret Police, Spanish media, an Israeli bodyguard, male friends of the ex-King … we’re completed by December 2022.

Corinna shows us some of her house, and some items that she kept from the Royal authorities that she managed to get safely to London.

I think Juan Carlos was an unhappy/lonely man … putting Corinna and her son in the estate next door and visiting them on his motorbike every day.

Selina Scott is in it quite a bit too.

Interesting to hear Corinna’s ex-husband suggest that the King broke his hip needing to use the toilet in the African bush in the dark dead of night.

Not his first safari or elephant kill too, Corinna goes through some of her photo albums.
 
Corinna made it all sound very cloak and dagger with the Spanish Secret Police and her secret items!

Juan Carlos came across as a very spoilt immature man who cared nothing for his wife and children and did as he pleased as he was King.
He could have brought down the Spanish Monarchy towards the end of his reign.
'The Bourbons have learned nothing and forgotten nothing'
 
King Juan Carlos I has created a foundation in Abu Dhabi to centralize his fortune abroad and leave it in inheritance to his daughters, Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina when he dies. King Emeritus himself presides over the new entity and his daughters occupy seats in the Board of Trustees, according to El Confidencial sources near the monarch. Financials in the environment of King Juan Carlos I also participate in the management of the company.
King Felipe VI has not participated in the operation or appears as a future beneficiary of the foundation.
 
That could cause trouble for the Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina in the future,I think it would best to follow their brothers precedence regarding the ex monarchs inheritance!
 
An Ard Ri said:
That could cause trouble for the Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina in the future,I think it would best to follow their brothers precedence regarding the ex monarchs inheritance!
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If Elena and Cristina are already covered by their father’s secret fortune, I suppose it is fair that jewelry owned by Queen Sofia and King Juan Carlos should be left entirely to King Felipe and stay then with the main line.
 
An Ard Ri said:
That could cause trouble for the Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina in the future,I think it would best to follow their brothers precedence regarding the ex monarchs inheritance!
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They aren’t going to reign in Spain anytime soon and they aren’t working royals anymore after their own scandals with their respective husbands so it won’t matter in the long term.
 
An Ard Ri said:
That could cause trouble for the Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina in the future,I think it would best to follow their brothers precedence regarding the ex monarchs inheritance!
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The Infanta's are private people now, and have no role in the public life of Spain. I don't think their inheritance from their father should cause them any issues.

Mbruno said:
If Elena and Cristina are already covered by their father’s secret fortune, I suppose it is fair that jewelry owned by Queen Sofia and King Juan Carlos should be left entirely to King Felipe and stay then with the main line.
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Makes sense. The main line is also the branch of the family that will have the most use for the jewellery. I am sure certain items of jewellery personal to Queen Sofia can be bequeathed to her daughters and their children.
 
muriel said:
Makes sense. The main line is also the branch of the family that will have the most use for the jewellery. I am sure certain items of jewellery personal to Queen Sofia can be bequeathed to her daughters and their children.
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I believe that the tiaras and other more important jewels should be left for the main line. Elena and Cristina should be left with other lesser-known jewels of Queen Sofia.
 
muriel said:
The Infanta's are private people now, and have no role in the public life of Spain. I don't think their inheritance from their father should cause them any issues.
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Felipe had to give up his inheritance because the money JC will leave behind has a questionable/dirty/criminal background and would have damaged the image of the crown.
Of course money has no smell and it will have been whitewashed in the Emirates, made fit for foundation so to say, but it will always be associated with 'suitcase money', probably good enough for the Infantas and their children, especially Elenas, who will never have to worry about jobs or anything else.
 
lula said:
King Felipe, Queen Letizia and King Juan Carlos attend the funeral in Madrid of Alejandro Fernández de Araoz y Marañón, husband of Isabel Gómez-Acebo and Duke of Estrada, sister-in-law of Infanta Pilar.

okdiario.com

Los Reyes y Juan Carlos I, se reúnen en el funeral de Alejandro Fernández de Araoz

Los Reyes Felipe y Letizia y Juan Carlos I se han visto de nuevo las caras. Los tres han acudido al funeral de Alejandro Fernández de Araoz.
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Imágenes: Felipe VI y Juan Carlos I coinciden de nuevo en un funeral en Madrid

Ha sido en el funeral del empresario y filántropo Alejandro Fernández de Araoz y Marañón, al que también ha asistido la reina Letizia.
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@lula I'm checking the link you posted and found another type of news I didn't expect on that article, that Juan Carlos created a trust to give the inheritance, rejected by king Felipe, to Felipe's sisters:

Los Reyes y Juan Carlos I, se reúnen en el funeral de Alejandro Fernández de Araoz
Scroll down to the 4th paragraph:

"...Be that as it may, the truth is that this new reunion between King Felipe and Queen Letizia and King Juan Carlos I coincides with the day on which it has been publicly reported that the emeritus has created a foundation with his daughters, the Infantas Elena and Cristina, to centralize his assets and leave it as an inheritance to them. and that he is writing his memoirs from Abu Dhabi..." ​
 
muriel said:
The Infanta's are private people now, and have no role in the public life of Spain. I don't think their inheritance from their father should cause them any issues.
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That's true but time will tell but I have a bad feeling about the inheritance of the former Monarch!
 
More information about the foundation that King Juan Carlos is creating in Abu Dhabi:
King Juan Carlos is setting up a foundation in Abu Dhabi to preserve his legacy.
That is why King Juan Carlos I is asking friends and acquaintances to send him photos, letters, articles, reports, interviews and relevant documents from his reign, so that they become part of the foundation's funds, which would include an report written by Don Juan Carlos himself.
This foundation has nothing to do with his financial assets or with the inheritance he left to the Infantas Elena and Cristina, or with his tax regularisations, as some media have published.
More information: La verdadera fundación que está montando el Rey Juan Carlos para preservar su legado histórico
 
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