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Jasl thank you for your post, it was a pleasure to read I agree with absolutely everything you wrote, couldnt have put it better myself.
The Crown Princess associates greatly with her upbring and homeland...that is expected and no doubt, shall never change.UserDane said:Jasl, I second that - great post.
I too like royals to recognize their backgrounds and so far I like the balance that Mary has between being undeniably a Danish princess now and her Aussie roots. She will of course have to keep that balance and put her present position first but so far she seems to be doing fine.IMO, it's important to recognise the place where you spent you formative years since it's usually an important part of the person you have become.
Jasl, I third that - excellent comments.UserDane said:Jasl, I second that - great post.
ricarda said:I don't think that Mary is constantly emphasizing her "Australianness",
at least no more than Henrik is emphasizing his "Frenchness" or Alexandra her "Eurasianness".
(The British/Australian media does emphasize it and sometimes her step-mom. )
Little_star said:It's interesting Jasl thatyou praise Mary's background becuase for several Danes I know the fact that she is constantly emphasising her "Australianess" is a root for contention.
As they see it, she hasn't really embraced her new way of life at all. Her Australian background seems paramount.
Little_star said:In what way is Scottish society "conservative"? Moreoverhow exactly is there a culture clash between the 2 countries?
Jo of Palatine said:Countries with a long history of political problems with their own structures of society (clan system) and with their neighbours (England) tend to be quite traditionalistic. Add to that a rough climate and thus poorness, a position apart from the main trade routes and you get a society which needs to upheld "conservative" views and virtues as a means to survive. While of course Scotland and the Scottish change with every new generation, I think it can be safely said that Scotland in its attitudes is still a rather conservative country.
While Australia features a different climate, a very different history and a society mostly based on immigrants. There are quite some books on the market which deal with the cultural clash Europeans expereince when they emigrate to Australia - just go to your local bookstore and ask for recommendations (I could give you only some in German language at the moment).
But maybe you are interested in reading a book about the confrontation of Scottish settlers with a Briton who lived for 16 years with aborigines - then this might be something for you:
The novel "Remembering Babylon" by David Malouf deals with the cultural clash between 19th century white settlers (from Scotland) in Australia and the native Australian world view. Praised by many critics, the book won the 1996 International Impac Dublin Literary Award and was short-listed for the 1993 Booker Prize.
Margrethe II said:Your relations (or people you know) are but 7 indaviduals within a nation of around 5 million or so..there shall no doubt be others who may share their view but they are definitly the minority.
"MII"
I think it's a good idea to make up ones own mind.Ariel said:I don't know what to think, in one hand there are danes that are very proud of her and think she is doing a good work, in the other hands, there are people on this forum that knows danes that have a different opinion. So probably if i have to make my own idea about how Mary is doing as a princess, it will be a match. I think people can make their own mind about other people and arrive to different conclusions, based on facts or even prejudices. Hope one day, all these things will calm down a bit and people try to know better how she is, giving her the opportunities to learn and evolve, not in what they wish but in what she is able and wish to.
Little_star said:You know, I'm not quite sure why you bother responding to my posts as all you ever seem to do is try to undermine what I have written.
My family may not number alot of people, but they live and breathe Copenhagen. They know what their friends and neighbours (who are Danish) are thinking and from what my cosuisn has told me it's more than a "minority" as you seem determined to persist who are dissatisfied with their Crown Princess.
Little_star said:It's interesting Jasl thatyou praise Mary's background becuase for several Danes I know the fact that she is constantly emphasising her "Australianess" is a root for contention.
As they see it, she hasn't really embraced her new way of life at all. Her Australian background seems paramount.
Australian said:So you are converted now, princess olga? lol
I really like the recent pics of her
Margrethe II said:Its not just about what HRH wears "PO"..its the whole package!!!
"MII"
kaydura0717 said:Well everyone is allowed a fashion mistake once and awhile. I mean she can't be perfect all the time. But most of the time she is.
GlitteringTiaras said:Is there really such a thing as being "perfect" a majority of the time? For all rational & logical human beings this theory is completely impossible. No one in this world is "perfect" in every sense of the word. We all have our imperfections, we "mess up" and make silly decsions from time to time, that is what makes us unique. Even Princesses are not perfect; we would like to think so, but let's be rational here, they're not.
Mary has done a pretty good job so far as a representative for Denmark. People should be proud, but by no means is she perfect. I'm sure she would agree with me on this one if she took an active participation in this discussion.
No, obviously the perfect human being does, luckily, not exist.
I think that what was meant was that HRH Crown Princess Mary is most of the time perfect in the role of crown princess.