The Prince of Wales and Lady Diana Spencer: 29 July 1981


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Hey there! Brand new, as I found this forum and figured it would be the best place to get help! My wife has been asked to make a replica of Princess Diana's cake, and I'm trying to help get any info for her!! Here are my questions... :)

-Are there any pics that anyone knows of that show all sides of the cake?

-We have figured out (as far as we know) what goes on the all of the tiers, except the 2nd one! From the pics we've found, it appears as though one is a waving flag, and one is a civic crown, maybe?

Any info would be greatly appreciated - if you know exactly what buildings went on the bottom, or what all 5 coats of arms/crests were, etc.

Thanks in advance for any assistance!!
 
Well, I think it's all destiny. I think Charles & Diana's lives were meant to come together, even if it was just for a little while. Diana once mentioned that when she was a little girl, she she knew something special was going to happen in her life. She said she didn't know what or when but she knew she would have to save herself for it.
 
What a shame it all went so wrong.


LaRae
 
I know, I do miss those two together. I think despite their personal problems, Charles & Diana worked well together. She even thought they were a good team.
 
See, I think the opposite. The reason why they had so many personal problems, in my opinion, was because they weren't good together. I think Charles is much better suited with Camilla.
 
Naggi said:
"Behind the curtain" photos I have never seen before. I love how the pageboy is trying to sort her train on the sceond photo.

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Very nice pics, thanks. The third pic is so sad if you know the end of the story. It is the beauty and the innocence of a young girl, entering into a fairy tale... which turned to a nightmare.
 
I think they had very different expectations from marriage. As she said, she wanted a father figure who would protect her and love her and (subconciously) who would make her abandonment issues go away. He wanted someone to have his children and then let him live his life as he wished. He was used to being cared for, not doing the caring. They could have been great and they were wonderful at traveling and mixing with the people. But their personality conflicts made it impossible.
 
They lived in two very different worlds, even though they were married to each other. This is one of the first impressions that I got of them. The two different worlds were difficult to bring together for a variety of different reasons.

I think as the Prince of Wales came into his 30's, there was a lot of pressure on him to find someone who was suitable to marry. There wasn't a large pool of women to pick from (limited by social standing and virginity being a requirement) and by the time one gets into their late 20's and early 30's especially at that time period late 1970's, early 1980's), most women who might have been eligible in his age group were probably already married, a few of them possibly divorced and a few perhaps living with a partner. Being divorced or having lived with a partner previously would have made one ineligible for marriage.

I imagine you would have been very hard pressed to find a woman in her late 20's or early 30's who was still a virgin and who was in the right social standing to be the bride of the Prince of Wales. So the woman had to be much younger than him for that reason.
 
Well I think he'd had a few 'no thank you' replies as well prior to Diana. Still I can't imagine she was the only virgin from his social set.


LaRae
 
Ish said:
See, I think the opposite. The reason why they had so many personal problems, in my opinion, was because they weren't good together. I think Charles is much better suited with Camilla.
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I agree and I wish the past could be left alone.
 
Charles was pretty excited about his marriage to Diana. I remember when he was trying to figure out the landscaping for their Highgrove Estate, he had menioned in a documentary that he wanted to design the grass with lots of C's and D's. Diana even said they were really happy in the beginning.

Then again, that was the past. Nothing can be changed now.
 
fandesacs2003 said:
Very nice pics, thanks. The third pic is so sad if you know the end of the story. It is the beauty and the innocence of a young girl, entering into a fairy tale... which turned to a nightmare.
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Everyone was so filled with so many expectations of this marriage. I was a kid, and can still remember the Archbishop of Canterbury remarking on "The Prince and Princess on their Wedding Day;" he captured the essence of it all to so many of us in that very simple line, but so filled with meaning. They were supposed to be a fairy tale.

It's almost difficult, even for me, to look at these photos now. Looking at the wedding photos now, those candid behind the scenes shots makes you feel like you're there, you have a crystal ball, and you want to leap up and put a stop to the whole thing, and you feel so helpless that you can't.
 
I think people have to understand that marriage is no fairytale, despite it being a royal marriage. Married royal couples have their ups and downs just like other couples.

I think that's the sad part about Charles & Diana's marriage, people put too much high expectations on their shoulders. I think it all became too great a burden for them to carry. The press wasn't much help either. Marriage is already hard but to have the media making everything into a soap opera, I think will really put a strain on anyones marriage.
 
The world did put to push pressure on Charles and Diana's marriage. I remember everytime there was a picture of those two and they weren't looking at each other, or were looking at something else. ever talking to different people. There were reports about a Royal Breakup. It was every month, weekly by the end of the marriage.
 
bethaliz6894 said:
The world did put to push pressure on Charles and Diana's marriage. I remember everytime there was a picture of those two and they weren't looking at each other, or were looking at something else. ever talking to different people. There were reports about a Royal Breakup. It was every month, weekly by the end of the marriage.
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Perhaps, but if they really wanted to stay together, papers, reports and "the world" wouldn't have made an ounce of difference if their life.
 
Oh, no, it was not the public or the press that doomed that marriage. Those outside forces at times don't help a bad situation, but that bad situation was already in existence.
 
Dman said:
I think people have to understand that marriage is no fairytale, despite it being a royal marriage. Married royal couples have their ups and downs just like other couples.

I think that's the sad part about Charles & Diana's marriage, people put too much high expectations on their shoulders. I think it all became too great a burden for them to carry. The press wasn't much help either. Marriage is already hard but to have the media making everything into a soap opera, I think will really put a strain on anyones marriage.
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I was a young girl still living at home at the time of their engagement and marriage, and even I knew something was way OFF about this so-called "love story."

I was enchanted by Diana like most everyone else, but at no time did I believe I was seeing a fairy tale or a true love match.(Unlike with Andrew and Sarah a few years later, which really was both and it was pretty obvious to me).

There was no chemistry between Charles and Diana from the beginning...ZERO. But Andrew and Sarah were giddy. If they had been any happier they would have levitated.

The press built Charles and Diana up because it's what they and the great majority of the public wanted and needed to believe.

I never did. And when it all fell apart I was sad but not a bit surprised.
 
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Charles & Diana was a stiffer couple but they had their moments and you could see that there was love between them. I know I saw it. There was too much expected of them and lots of pressure.

With Andrew & Sarah, their playful and naughty sense of humor showed more and they wasn't in the Wales's position, so they were able to be laid back and relax.
 
Moonmaiden23 said:
I was a young girl still living at home at the time of their engagement and marriage, and even I knew something was way OFF about this so-called "love story."

I was enchanted by Diana like most everyone else, but at no time did I believe I was seeing a fairy tale or a true love match.(Unlike with Andrew and Sarah a few years later, which really was both and it was pretty obvious to me).

There was no chemistry between Charles and Diana from the beginning...ZERO. But Andrew and Sarah were giddy. If they had been any happier they wpuld have levitated.

The press built Charles and Diana up because it's what they and the great majority of the public wanted and needed to believe.

I never did. And when it all fell apart I was sad but not a bit surprised.
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I quite agree. At the time, Prince Charles was quite unappealing to my youthful, american self and to me it was obviously not a two way love match at the start. "Whatever love is," indeed! I wanted it to be LOVE, and I think a lot of us thought that after the wedding, there was no way he could not go head over heals for Diana's calm and charm.

Well that was that. I did see him admiring her abilities and then I saw him growing resentful, and her as well. All that as their respective staffs were busily undermining the relationship with leaks and half truths. Other staff from across the family joined in the sport and it descended into the very ugly very quickly.

It's true that Diana and Charles would fall back into like from time to time, but we were so entertained by their war that the rapprochements were mostly ignored.

I do blame myself for paying attention to all the mud - people like me fed the frenzy.

They reamain two people who could not have been more badly matched. Sad.
 
After hearing one of Prince Charles's old friends admit that Charles has never been that good with women and love them in his own way, makes me think the "whatever in love means" remark wasn't just meant for his relationship with Diana.
 
Dman said:
After hearing one of Prince Charles's old friends admit that Charles has never been that good with women and love them in his own way, makes me think the "whatever in love means" remark wasn't just meant for his relationship with Diana.
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Yes. I think you could write a major psychological thesis on why he let it slip out as he did. I'd say it to a friend, not a fiance and certainly not to a camera with my arm around my fiance.
 
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