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The Marchioness of Bath attended the „Moncler Presents: The Art of Genius“ event at Olympia London on February 20:


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The death was announced of Baroness Boothroyd, OM, PC who passed away aged 93 on the 26th of February 2023.

Betty was better known as the as the 1st Female Speaker of the House of Commons and served in that role from 1992 to 2000. In 2001 she took up her seat as a crossbench peer in the House of Lords.

A minutes silence was held in the House of Commons in honour of the late Baroness.

https://news.sky.com/story/baroness...he-house-of-commons-has-died-aged-93-12724383
 
The Marchioness of Bath attended the premiere of "Luther: The Fallen Sun" in London on March 1:


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And on March 2 she attended "The Loubi Show" as part of Paris Fashion Week:


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Lady Lola Bute the daughter of the Marquess of Bute has become very popular in the London Social set does great Charity work that draws a large crowd then there are the Manners sisters another young model Lady Jean Campbell her father is the 7th Earl of Cawdor. George Spencer Churchill, Peregrine Pearson who is in a relationship with Princess Olympia of Greece there always out and about.
 
Twin sons for Lady Melissa Percy and Remy Trafelet!

The Lady Melissa Jane [Missy] Trafelet [nee Percy, born 1987], wife of Remy White Trafelet [born 1970], and scion of the Dukes of Northumberland, gave birth to twin sons, Percy Dean and Alfred Ralph, 22 February, 2023, in Florida, brothers for Bluebell Rose, who was born 19 February, 2020, in New York.

Remy Trafelet is a son of Dean M. Trafelet, former Illinois Circuit Judge, by his wife Janet.

Lady Melissa is a daughter of the 12th Duke of Northumberland, of Alnwick Castle, and Syon House, by his wife the former [Isobel] Jane Miller Richard.

Lady Melissa was previously married, 2013 [div 2016] to Thomas Alexander van Straubenzee [born 1982], scion of that landed gentry family.
 
The Marchioness of Bath attended the Aquazzura Cocktail Event during Paris Fashion Week on March 6:


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Lilyflo said:
The woman you mention is Charlotte Carew Pole and her campaign is here:
https://daughtersrights.co.uk

This link takes you to the latest position in parliament and I think it will progress (if slowly!)
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/...-gender-inequality-in-the-line-of-succession/
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Thanks, Lilyflo.

The present campaign began in 2013 under the name Hares are Running and was spurred by the Succession to the Crown Act 2013 which removed sex discrimination from the succession to the crown. Its previous lead campaigner was the Countess of Clancarty, whose husband's earldom is set to become extinct even though the couple has a daughter.

People related to the Royal Family who have signed their names to the petition for equal primogeniture are the then Lady Serena Linley (the ex-wife of the current Earl of Snowdon), Melanie Cable-Alexander (the mother of the 1st Earl of Snowdon's son Jasper Cable-Alexander), and the Marchioness of Milford Haven (the wife of a cousin of Prince Philip).

Charlotte Carew Pole, who renewed the campaign under the name of Daughters' Rights, was born as a middle-class commoner, so she is not in line to inherit any title herself with or without a change to equal primogeniture.

She was inspired to become an activist against male primogeniture because of the behavior of some of her husband's aristocratic relatives when she gave birth to a daughter:


Charlotte Carew Pole, founder of Daughters' Rights, a campaign against [male] primogeniture, describes her aristocratic family's reaction when her first child, a daughter, was born. Of course, they were happy to have the baby. But, she said, there were frequent comments about what a shame it was that the child couldn't inherit and how Charlotte and her husband "must try again." Can you imagine the heartbreak of seeing that reaction to the birth of your first child? Charlotte says she had not, until that moment, seen that people would actually feel "a girl might not be the right baby to have."

https://www.doublexeconomy.com/post...care-about-gender-exclusion-among-the-peerage
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After seven miscarriages and two rounds of IVF Charlotte Carew Pole was “absolutely thrilled” when she gave birth to her daughter, Jemima. Yet the penny soon dropped that, for some, Jemima was not good enough.

“It was definitely a thing,” she said. “‘Congratulations, what a shame it wasn’t a boy’, or ‘How quickly can you have another?’” were some of the comments she received.

“There was a general expectation that I must keep pumping them out until a boy arrived. And all because I married a man who will inherit a title.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ladies-first-in-tory-plan-to-abolish-primogeniture-3qznb7j5l​
 
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Tatiana Maria said:
Thanks, Lilyflo.

The present campaign began in 2013 under the name Hares are Running and was spurred by the Succession to the Crown Act 2013 which removed sex discrimination from the succession to the crown. Its previous lead campaigner was the Countess of Clancarty, whose husband's earldom is set to become extinct even though the couple has a daughter.

People related to the Royal Family who have signed their names to the petition for equal primogeniture are the then Lady Serena Linley (the ex-wife of the current Earl of Snowdon), Melanie Cable-Alexander (the mother of the 1st Earl of Snowdon's son Jasper Cable-Alexander), and the Marchioness of Milford Haven (the wife of a cousin of Prince Philip).

Charlotte Carew Pole, who renewed the campaign under the name of Daughters' Rights, was born as a middle-class commoner, so she is not in line to inherit any title herself with or without a change to equal primogeniture.

She was inspired to become an activist against male primogeniture because of the behavior of some of her husband's aristocratic relatives when she gave birth to a daughter:


Charlotte Carew Pole, founder of Daughters' Rights, a campaign against [male] primogeniture, describes her aristocratic family's reaction when her first child, a daughter, was born. Of course, they were happy to have the baby. But, she said, there were frequent comments about what a shame it was that the child couldn't inherit and how Charlotte and her husband "must try again." Can you imagine the heartbreak of seeing that reaction to the birth of your first child? Charlotte says she had not, until that moment, seen that people would actually feel "a girl might not be the right baby to have."

https://www.doublexeconomy.com/post...care-about-gender-exclusion-among-the-peerage
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After seven miscarriages and two rounds of IVF Charlotte Carew Pole was “absolutely thrilled” when she gave birth to her daughter, Jemima. Yet the penny soon dropped that, for some, Jemima was not good enough.

“It was definitely a thing,” she said. “‘Congratulations, what a shame it wasn’t a boy’, or ‘How quickly can you have another?’” were some of the comments she received.

“There was a general expectation that I must keep pumping them out until a boy arrived. And all because I married a man who will inherit a title.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ladies-first-in-tory-plan-to-abolish-primogeniture-3qznb7j5l​
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Melanie Cable-Alexander is no relation of the BRF but simply a woman Snowdon had a relationship and child with. The current Marchioness of Milford doesn’t have a dog in the fight because the current Marquess has a son. Regarding the Carew-Poles, I’m quite sure there are others to succeed to the baronetcy. Which branch of the family does her husband belong to? Their daughters could inherit properties or anything of the families, just not succeed to the baronetcy.
 
SirGyamfi1 said:
The current Marchioness of Milford doesn’t have a dog in the fight because the current Marquess has a son.
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The current Marquess also has a daughter, and she is his firstborn. But indeed, the current Marchioness cannot be subjected to the malicious accusation of being motivated by self-interest (as other female supporters of the campaign have been), because she does not have any children with the Marquess (both have children from previous marriages) and she would not personally benefit.
 
Lord Seymour is getting married again!

The engagement has been announced between Sebastian Edward Seymour, styled Baron Seymour (born 3 February, 1982), son and heir of the 19th Duke of Somerset (born 30 Dec, 1952), and the Duchess of Somerset (nee Judith-Rose Hull, born 1952), and Poppy Alexandra Wilcox (born 1990), daughter of John Wilcox, of West London, and his wife the former Gillian Saggers.

It will be Lord Seymour’s second marriage. He married firstly in 2006 (div 2014) Arlette Marie Leotine Lafayeedney, daughter of Daniel Lafayeedney.

Source: Peerage News
 
The Marchioness of Bath attended a dinner celebrating the Giambattista Valli pop-up at Harrods on March 23:


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The Marchioness of Bath attended the Dalai Lama's "Never Forget Tibet" Film Premiere hosted by Everyman Borough Yards and presented by Dr Deepak Chopra in London this evening, March 29:


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Who is this couple beside her?
 
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It‘s photographer Juergen Teller and his employee, since 2021 wife Dovile Drizyte.


The Marchioness of Bath attended a dinner hosted by Olivier Rousteing to mark the opening of Balmain's new London boutique on March 30:


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The Marquess and Marchioness of Bath attended a private view of "Crown To Couture" at Kensington Palace on April 4:


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What opinions do some people have on the King promoting the Marquess of Cholmondeley to a court position?
 
SirGyamfi1 said:
What opinions do some people have on the King promoting the Marquess of Cholmondeley to a court position?
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Didn't he already have a court position as Lord Chamberlain under the late Queen?
I think he has merely been shifted into another position, since a new reign means a new Lord Chamberlain.

But he isn't going anywhere, and may resume his original role once William succeeds.
 
The other five permanent lords-in-waiting are retired lord chamberlains and private secretaries, so it seems like a pretty standard appointment for someone leaving a senior position at court. I can't find if the 3rd Earl of Ancaster got that appointment, but he was only lord great chamberlain for six months before George VI died.
 
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The Marchioness of Bath attended attends an event for African conservation charity, Tusk, raising funds for the charity's LEWA Safari Marathon in London this evening, April 18:


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SirGyamfi1 said:
Ok, so not really nobility.
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Not in the hereditary sense but he had a baronial title but was it wasn't a hereditary one.
Both hereditary and lifetime titles come under the Peerage of the UK.
 
Yesterday, April 19, the Marchioness of Bath attended the Studio Frantzen Summer Terrace Launch at Harrods:


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The Marchioness of Bath attended a special fan screening and garden party for "Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story" in London on April 21:


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