The British Nobility thread 1: Ending 2022


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Frank
 
Marie Douglas-David is the daughter of Philip, Count Douglas and Birgitta Blomsted. Philip, Count Douglas was the son of Carl, Count Douglas and Otora (not sure about her name, might have been Ottora) Haas-Heye. Carl, Count Douglas was the son of Archibald, Count Douglas and Astrid Henschen. Archibald, Count Douglas was the son of Ludvig, Count Douglas and Countess Anna Ehrensord. Archibald, Count Douglas was the son of Katharina Werner, Gräfin von Gondelsheim und Langenstein and Gondelsheim and Carl Israel, Count Douglas. Katharina Werner was the illegitimate daughter of Ludvig (Louis) I, Grand Duke of Baden.

Therefore, Marie Douglas-David is related (through legitimate offsprings of Ludvig I, Grand Duke of Baden), albeit remotely, to quite a few of the German Houses, British, Danish, Swedish and Greek Royal Families, as well as to Russian and Austrian Imperial Houses. She is also related to (or descended from) a number of distinguished people, starting from Joseph Fouche, 1st Duc d'Otrante, Minister of Police under Napoleon Bonaparte (who is one of her ancecters) and ending with a couple of Reigning Monarchs.

The connections are, as mentioned above, very remote, since after Katharina Werner, Gräfin von Gondelsheim und Langenstein and Gondelsheim, there was little to no new Royal or even Aristocratic blood in the family.

The above information is provided by Alexandra123 (TheRoyalForum)
 
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To avoid tax, Blackwood left England in 1977 and went to live in an apartment at the great Georgian mansion of Castletown House, County Kildare, which was owned by her cousin Desmond Guinness. Ten years later in 1987 she returned to the United States, settling in a large, comfortable house in Sag Harbor, Long Island where, although her powers were greatly depleted by alcoholism, she continued to write, including two vivid memoirs of Princess Margaret and Francis Bacon, published in the New York Review of Books in 1992.
During her final illness Blackwood never lost her dark, macabre humour. On her deathbed Anna Haycraft brought her some holy water from Lourdes which was accidentally spilled on her bed sheets. “I might have caught my death,” she muttered.
Caroline Blackwood died on February 14, 1996 from cancer at the Mayfair Hotel on Park Avenue in New York aged 64. She was survived by her two younger daughters Eugenia (b. 1963), who is married to the actor Julian Sands, and Ivana (b. 1966), her son Sheridan, her sister Lady Perdita Blackwood and her mother, who died two years later, aged 91.

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The book I read about her...she was a stunner!http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/15190000/15198073.JPG
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She was truly a fascinating woman. I have the book!
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article6285896.ece

"Thomas Cholmondeley sentenced to eight months over Kenya ranch killing."

"He is the heir to the fifth Baron Delamere, and great-grandson of Lord Delamere."

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article6289093.ece

"Sara Apsley to shut upmarket Clothes Agency site to spend more time with family."

"Lady Apsley, 43-year-old wife of the heir to the £45 million Bathurst Estate-Eastnor Castle, Ledbury, Herefordshire, England, UK."

Courtesy of Wikipedia and the Official Website-Eastnor Castle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastnor_Castle

http://www.eastnorcastle.com/

Courtesy of BBC, Wikipedia & Official website-Finlaggan Trust.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8052366.stm

"Centre sheds light on sea kingdom(Lord of the Isles-Clan Donald-islands of Finlaggan Loch, Highlands, Scotland, UK)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_isles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Donald

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlaggan

http://www.finlaggan.com/default.asp
 
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Interview with the Marchioness of Worcester about her life and pigs

"They’ve been dubbed the champagne swampies – beautiful, aristocratic greenies who’ll happily chain themselves to trees before that motorway slices through the estate: Zac Goldsmith, David de Rothschild, Tamsin Omond.
Champion of the eco-toffs, however, has to be Tracy Worcester. Her secondary-modern first name belies the fact that she is married to the Marquess of Worcester, son of the Duke of Beaufort, who will in due course inherit the 52,000-acre Badminton estate. She splits her time between a cottage there and her Belgravia townhouse, a paean to shabby chic, where she is now passing mugs of coffee beneath signed Francis Bacon prints. Is the Maserati outside hers?"

The rest of the long article is here:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article5580598.ecehttp://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article5580598.ece
 
VERY long interview with Lindy, the marchioness of Dufferin

Mind there are 5 (FIVE) pages:

The Marchioness

A member of the fabled and complicated Guinness family by birth and marriage, Lindy, the Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava, presides over Clandeboye, an astounding 2,000-acre estate in Northern Ireland.

By James Reginato
Photographs by Simon Watson


February 2009

On a meadow deep within Clandeboye, her magnificent 2,000-acre estate in Northern Ireland, a tempest has just lashed her mass of curly hair and splattered mud about her, but Lindy, the Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava, doesn’t so much as ask for a brush when it’s time to take her portrait. Instead, the sprightly Lady Dufferin frets about her 130 heifers, some of which are also due to be photographed. “I’ve ordered the cows to be washed,” she explains. “Where’s Willow?” she asks a gamekeeper somewhat nervously. “Is she ready?”
Willow, it turns out, is the bovine Miss Universe—Ireland’s Supreme Champion, Cow of the Year, and the undisputed star of the Clandeboye Herd, voted No. 1 in all of the UK in 2007.

Dufferin, 67, has traditionally guarded her privacy and never fully opened her home, or herself, to the press. But cow pride—and perhaps some newfound business savvy—seems to have softened her reserve. “Tears,” she says, when asked of her reaction to the top herd honor. On the heels of this award, she has just launched Clandeboye Estate Yoghurt from the milk of these fine beasts, an artisanal product that the UK’s leading supermarkets, Sainsbury’s and Tesco, vied for the honor of carrying first. When asked which one she was likely to choose, Dufferin confessed to a reporter that she “[hadn’t] a clue,” because she’d never been to a supermarket, prompting the British press to make predictable fun of her. Still, the very p.c. New Statesman admitted that the “hideous unfairness” of the class system had nonetheless produced “some wonderful eccentrics,” namely Dufferin.

The rest of the article is here:
W House Tours: The Marchioness: Art & Design: Wmagazine.com
 
David Rocksavage, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, is engaged to Rose Hanbury

"A regular on the lists of the capital's most eligible bachelors for the past three decades, David Rocksavage, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, is finally to settle down. He is engaged to Rose Hanbury, a beguiling socialite who is 25 years his junior"

The full article is here:
David Rocksavage, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, is engaged to Rose Hanbury - Telegraph

An article about this ancient family is here:
Marquess of Cholmondeley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Documentary Pig Business, by Tracy, Marchioness of Worcester. She takes on the world's biggest pig famer, the 6 bn ponds a year Smithfield Foods
Trailer | Pig Business


"They’ve been dubbed the champagne swampies – beautiful, aristocratic greenies who’ll happily chain themselves to trees before that motorway slices through the estate: Zac Goldsmith, David de Rothschild, Tamsin Omond.
Champion of the eco-toffs, however, has to be Tracy Worcester. Her secondary-modern first name belies the fact that she is married to the Marquess of Worcester, son of the Duke of Beaufort, who will in due course inherit the 52,000-acre Badminton estate. She splits her time between a cottage there and her Belgravia townhouse, a paean to shabby chic, where she is now passing mugs of coffee beneath signed Francis Bacon prints. Is the Maserati outside hers?"

The rest of the long article is here:

The Marchioness of Worcester trots out her plan to help pigs - Times Online
 
:wub:Helmingham Hall Gardens

...............We hope that the previous eighteen generations of the family would be pleased to see that their home, built so long ago and protected by its sixty-foot-wide moat, still has its two drawbridges pulled up every night and lowered each morning...............

went to this house on a gardentour last week, the house of Lord and Lady Tollemache.

The gardens are wonderful.
We had lunch in a barn/stable and there were pictures of the staff on the wall taken in 2004, about 20 fulltime people, gamekeepers, farmers, butler, cook, secretary etc. Amazing such a big staff and they all looked very nice, someone said that they probably were the children of families who had worked for the Tollemaches for generations but that might be a romantic view. They did look like a happy dedicated group forming with the Tollemaches a world of their own with a common purpose.
I walked in the park to their church which could also be reached from the village and imagined how wonderfull it must be to live in such a historic home.
 
Wyken Hall, home of Lord and Lady Carlisle

WYKEN VINEYARDS - Carla Carlisle

.......Born on the banks of the Yazoo River in Greenwood Mississippi, Carla Carlisle was raised in the heat of civil-rights activism and Vietnam war protests. Her life took an abrupt turn at age 38 when she married Kenneth Carlisle, a farmer and Tory Member of Parliament, and moved into Wyken Hall, an Elizabethan manor house that has been the Carlisle family home for four generations. ..

Wyken Hall, England - Town and Country Travel

.........When Sir Kenneth Carlisle gave his American wife, Carla, a diamond brooch for her fortieth birthday, in 1988, the native Mississippian thanked him and waited a tactful few days before popping this question: could she sell the brooch and use the money to plant a garden in front of Wyken Hall, their 400-year-old Elizabethan manor house? Several jewels later, the garden has truly blossomed, and the enterprising Lady Carlisle has planted a seven-acre vineyard and converted the original barn into a country shop plus the well-loved Leaping Hare Restaurant, which offers modern British cuisine with an emphasis on local produce.
 
He was second in line to the historic title of the Marquess of Queensberry.
But for Lord Milo Douglas, 34, life was hardly one of stately homes, exclusive parties and aristocratic ease.
For years, while working as a teacher and later as a charity worker, he battled depression. Finally, unable to cope any longer, he leapt to his death from a council tower block.

Read more: Tormented lord jumps to his death from council block | Mail Online
 
:previous: Oh my gosh, that's so sad. He was so young. My condolences to his family.
 
Isn't it silly how if you are a female you can't be a duchess in your own right yet can reign as sovereign? It is also silly how Edward has to wait for the Edinburgh dukedom to revert to the crown before he has a chance at getting it. Charles or William could always give it to someone else - there is nothing in Letters Patent that says it will go to him, is there?
 
It's possible for a woman to be a Duchess in her own right, but just not through inheritance (I don't think there are any dukedoms that go to heirs general). One such example is the Duchess of Inverness. There's nothing about Edward in the letters patent for the Dukedom of Edinburgh. Even if it was something that would be done, Edward wasn't born until more than 16 years after the fact.
 
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The title given to Prince Edward (Wessex) was out of left field so it is possible that any title given to Harry could also be something unexpected.

It is even possible, although doubtful, that Harry mightn't get any title at all.

We do know a list of unavailable titles but the monarch can create any title she/he likes.

I thought the Queen only had certain titles she could choose from. Can she really create any title she wants as long as it's a realm/area in the U.K.?
 
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