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In line with PM Brown's proposed changes to the Line of Succession, how great would these changes be.
Would they involve female heiresses such as Beatrice inherit their fathers dukedoms, additionally would members excluded by the Catholic ban, such as Prince Michael and Lord St. Andrews be entitled to reclaim their claim on the throne.
It is quite an interesting topic.
This could be where the government will have problems, if the law is changed with regard to the royal family, they leave themselves open to legal challenges by first born daughters of peers.
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Gordon Brown's assault on the traditions of the monarchy is preposterous
Gordon Brown's assault on the traditions of the monarchy is preposterous - Telegraph
Behind the Queen's insistence on cast-iron support from the Commonwealth is thought to lie her deep concern about the role of Christianity in Britain and the unforeseen impact of any reforms.
This is exactly the first thing I have thought...together with the fact that a Catholic King or Queen is a contradiction, because the King is the Head of the Anglican Church...That's right. Once they start changing 1000-year old laws, they won't stop at succession to the crown. If the succession to the throne becomes gender-blind, I'm 100% sure they'll say: if women and men have the same right to succeed to the throne, why can't women succeed to peerages Are they less capable to hold the Dukedom of Norfolk? That means we'll see Beatrice as 2nd Duchess of York and Louise as 2nd Countess of Wessex, and suo jure Duchesses of Norfolk... The whole system of peerage will break down.
That's right. Once they start changing 1000-year old laws, they won't stop at succession to the crown. If the succession to the throne becomes gender-blind, I'm 100% sure they'll say: if women and men have the same right to succeed to the throne, why can't women succeed to peerages Are they less capable to hold the Dukedom of Norfolk? That means we'll see Beatrice as 2nd Duchess of York and Louise as 2nd Countess of Wessex, and suo jure Duchesses of Norfolk... The whole system of peerage will break down.
But make me understand: is this reform only an idea and a possibility, or is sure that the laws will change?
I certainly hope that this is the case, Sir_knight.
Buckingham Palace is in talks with Prime Minister Gordon Brown about rewriting the royal laws when it comes to marriage and succession to the throne.
Julie Burchill | David Starkey | Is Beatrix of Holland our real Queen? | The Sun |Features
Queen Beatrix, the real Queen of the Uk.
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im agaist Discrimanation so I Just hope The UK Doesnt lose the Monarchy
It is only a possibility, at the moment the private members bill was blocked but the government has 'promised' it will look at changing the law. One minister has said that even if ALL the commonwealth countries agree to a change, it could take years. Labour is in power at the moment, with elections due next year, so unless the Tories take it up, it will once again be put to one side.This is exactly the first thing I have thought...together with the fact that a Catholic King or Queen is a contradiction, because the King is the Head of the Anglican Church...
But make me understand: is this reform only an idea and a possibility, or is sure that the laws will change?
Thank you, Skydragon; Italian medias reported the news as a cerainty...It is only a possibility, at the moment the private members bill was blocked but the government has 'promised' it will look at changing the law. One minister has said that even if ALL the commonwealth countries agree to a change, it could take years. Labour is in power at the moment, with elections due next year, so unless the Tories take it up, it will once again be put to one side.
Legally two different things, its one thing to say the heir to the throne shall be the first-born child of the sovereign and quite another to say the heir or sovereign cant marry a catholic, when he can marry a muslim or atheist. Im a lawyer and the distinction to me is important.Isn't that a bit contradicting? I mean, monarchy is based on discrimination. However you put it, it discriminates someone. It discriminates me, for example, because I can't be head of state of the UK, but I don't mind. I don't cry for absolute equality
Actually, I care about both of those things as Anne would make a HELL of a monarch! And if you have a strong monarch who's tough on crime, then those stabbings will stave off. . . no pun intended. . . .Does it really matter? To be honest I'm far more interested in not being able to get a doctor's appointment when I need one, the regular stabbings in my local area and the rising price of almost everything. Whether Princess Anne is fourth or tenth in the Royal race really doesn't bother me one bit.
Actually, I care about both of those things as Anne would make a HELL of a monarch! And if you have a strong monarch who's tough on crime, then those stabbings will stave off. . . no pun intended. . . .
I believe you're correct, which is why I like her (Anne) in 4th and not 10th. But whatever I like is irrelavant. She may not be comfortable in 4th with her children in a higher bracket.Yes I agree that Anne would make a hell of a monarch but even if this law changes it wouldn't make her queen, she would be behind Charles, Will and Harry correct me if i'm wrong.