Question about Italian nobility

[Vicomte de Valjean]

Hi, everyone! Does anyone happen to know what are the courtesy titles for the children of a marchese?

 

[Vicomte de Valjean]

Does anyone know? I believe that "Don" and "Donna" are technically reserved for the families of dukes and princes.

 

[trebor]

Italy is complicated, due to the various entities granting titles. Debrett's Correct Form, page 380 has a discussion. "Children of a noble without the styles of Don and Donna, and without a territorial title, are styled, e.g. Nobile Antonio dei Conti Selvatichelli, and with a territorial title "Nobile Antonio Sevatichelli dei Conti di Acquatorta (dei = of the family).
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[monica17]

Hi, everyone! Does anyone happen to know what are the courtesy titles for the children of a marchese?

The male children also use "marchese". Not sure what title, if any, for the daughters.

Here is an example of Marchese Antonio Cavriani from Mantua, with his male children and descendants also titled the same and the female descendants are only listed with their given names.

Cavriani

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Hi, everyone! Does anyone happen to know what are the courtesy titles for the children of a marchese?

It would be necessary to know the particular family.

Italy is complicated, due to the various entities granting titles. Debrett's Correct Form, page 380 has a discussion. "Children of a noble without the styles of Don and Donna, and without a territorial title, are styled, e.g. Nobile Antonio dei Conti Selvatichelli, and with a territorial title "Nobile Antonio Sevatichelli dei Conti di Acquatorta (dei = of the family).
There's more.

Indeed, and further complicated by the fact that in some families with titles inherited by male primogeniture, younger sons or even daughters who were strictly only entitled to be "dei Marchesi di ..." would use "Marchese" or "Marchesa", or lower titles, as a courtesy.

Today, of course, all titles are used only as a courtesy, as the nobility of Italy has been abolished.