Prince Harry: Relationship Suggestions and Musings 2016-2017

[royaldreams]

A Marie Claire article explains why Harry needs the Queen's approval before he can marry Meghan. They don't mention the Privy Council.

This why Prince Harry needs The Queen's permission to get married

It might seem antiquated but if Prince Harry did decide to propose to Meghan Markle (and the whole world is hoping that he will), he must, according to English law, ask the permission of his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II.


The Queen has to sign a notice of approval, granting her formal consent to the marriage, and confirming her trust in their choice of spouse.

Although the act has changed over time, now only limited to the first six in line to the throne, Prince Harry (fifth in line) is still one of the people that it applies to, and must wait for his grandmother’s permission if the situation arises.

 

[Osipi]

When we really think about it, getting permission to marry from the Queen makes a whole lot of sense. Its a safeguard to preserve the monarchy in the long run. Now its only limited to the first six people in line to ascend to the throne but if we look back in history, there was a lot of plots and conspiracies to gain control and someone that could possibly ascend to the throne in the future could marry for the sheer purpose of political reasons and land grabs and other dastardly reasons. Even as recently as the 20th century, there was a lot of concern for political reasons why Edward VIII's (David) choice of a bride (Wallis Simpson) was unacceptable and raised red flags within the government and this was a situation where the monarch, himself, wanted to marry. Hence the Abdication Crisis of 1936.

I'm sure that in Harry's case, it would just be a formality for the most part but a very necessary formal procedure. Now, if Harry for some reason wanted to marry the daughter of Bashar al-Assad of Syria, getting permission to marry would be a horse of a totally different color.

Sorry for throwing some history into this but it does help with the understanding of why the monarchy does some of the things they do that seem archaic in the 21st century.

 

[AmberG]

When we really think about it, getting permission to marry from the Queen makes a whole lot of sense. Its a safeguard to preserve the monarchy in the long run. Now its only limited to the first six people in line to ascend to the throne but if we look back in history, there was a lot of plots and conspiracies to gain control and someone that could possibly ascend to the throne in the future could marry for the sheer purpose of political reasons and land grabs and other dastardly reasons. Even as recently as the 20th century, there was a lot of concern for political reasons why Edward VIII's (David) choice of a bride (Wallis Simpson) was unacceptable and raised red flags within the government and this was a situation where the monarch, himself, wanted to marry. Hence the Abdication Crisis of 1936.

I'm sure that in Harry's case, it would just be a formality for the most part but a very necessary formal procedure. Now, if Harry for some reason wanted to marry the daughter of Bashar al-Assad of Syria, getting permission to marry would be a horse of a totally different color.

Sorry for throwing some history into this but it does help with the understanding of why the monarchy does some of the things they do that seem archaic in the 21st century.

Thank you, very good post.
I think that spouse has to be someone who will blindly follow the way of thinking, working, more follower than a leader...

 

[Osipi]

I think that spouse has to be someone who will blindly follow the way of thinking, working, more follower than a leader...

More important to me is that the couple be able to work together and support each other as a team as well as being confident in doing what they do on an individual basis.

I don't think any of the British royals just go blindly into the good night and are puppets. There are guidelines for sure when representing the monarch on official royal duties and engagements of course but they also are free and encouraged to campaign and support their own passions in the charities and the causes they choose to take on. The Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry is a good example to check out. It is very much based on what William and Kate and Harry are passionate about.

 

[American Observer7]

Is Meghan under guard while she is in the UK, paid for by Harry? I read Harry was thinking about getting her security.

Did that happen?

 

[SLV]

The only places I saw mentioning that were gossippages.

We really should stop posting links to pages like the DM concerning these two. All kinds of rubbish gets posted here.

 

[Osipi]

I really don't think that Meghan would have her own personal protection officer but perhaps Harry's escorts her when called for and Harry is staying home on the couch playing video games.. Most certainly wherever they go together, there would be ample security.

This is a matter that we don't know and I don't really think it really is any of our business to know. Time will tell though and until we get the information from a reliable source, its an open question.

 

[Lady Nimue]

I wish them well. Actually hadn't heard about this newest amour. Been absent from the Boards for some time. I wish them well but marriage is likely a long way off, if not a long shot imo (for a lot of reasons). I'll be surprised if someone with Meghan's worldliness opts to constrain herself for marriage to a British Royal, unless Harry actively lobbies to have it be otherwise.

I think Harry really does want to be married with a family of his own. If he's able to maintain the interest of a woman like Meghan maybe he's matured enough for marriage and I'll be proved wrong. We'll see.

 

[American Observer7]

I wish them well. Actually hadn't heard about this newest amour. Been absent from the Boards for some time. I wish them well but marriage is likely a long way off, if not a long shot imo (for a lot of reasons). I'll be surprised if someone with Meghan's worldliness opts to constrain herself for marriage to a British Royal, unless Harry actively lobbies to have it be otherwise.

I think Harry really does want to be married with a family of his own. If he's able to maintain the interest of a woman like Meghan maybe he's matured enough for marriage and I'll be proved wrong. We'll see.

I actually like this post. I don't know why. But I bet marriage has been discussed between them. We really don't what's a long way off and what's not. Harry may surprise a lot of the negative people about this relationship.

 

[Osipi]

One thing that is a positive factor for this couple when discussing a possible marriage is that there are a lot of external factors to be weighed and considered. Are we really suited to what comes with being a royal couple? Are the things Meghan would put behind her going to be worth it and will she be able to do it with no regrets? Are we committed to each other enough face whatever comes our way together as a team? There is a lot these two have to face and make decisions not only jointly but as individuals and from what I've seen, they're taking their time finding out the answers to these questions.

These are two mature people in their 30s and they know that being "in love" with the newfound throes of passion isn't enough to support and strengthen a commitment that comes with marriage. Especially a royal marriage. They'll do what they feel is right for them in the long run and we'll wait and see what happens. I have a good feeling about this relationship but none of us on the sidelines know the extent of their personal relationship and feelings and can only wish them well.

 

[Osipi]

This isn't really news at all. We know the next Invictus games will be held in Toronto and if I'm not mistaken, Harry's working on some kind of a walk from the east coast of the US to the west coast? I don't have the details handy.

When you're people like Harry and Meghan, being able to be somewhere across the pond or on a different continent really doesn't present a problem during their down time. I don't think Harry has to plan "work" to get him to be where he wants to be with Meghan at all. He just simply looks at his calendar of events and finds the down time and off he'll go. Same with her as we've seen her rumored to have "moved in" with Harry during her down time from filming Suits.

 

[Mbruno]

Prince Harry plans diary so he can work in CANADA as he's 'SMITTEN' with Meghan Markle | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

Do British Royals always stay at a provincial Government House when they are in Canada or does that apply only to official visits ? I am asking because, if Harry stays at an official residence, he probably won't be able to "move in together" with Meghan as they did in London.

 

[Osipi]

I would think that the courtesy of staying in a government house would only be issued if the visit was a state visit at the request of the hosting country. If Harry is traveling to Toronto in regards to the Invictus games which is his own personal organization he is involved with, he would have to find and fund his own lodgings as well as his protection officers (not sure if the Met police fund the protection officer's lodgings). At least that's my take on it.

 

[Countessmeout]

This isn't really news at all. We know the next Invictus games will be held in Toronto and if I'm not mistaken, Harry's working on some kind of a walk from the east coast of the US to the west coast? I don't have the details handy.

When you're people like Harry and Meghan, being able to be somewhere across the pond or on a different continent really doesn't present a problem during their down time. I don't think Harry has to plan "work" to get him to be where he wants to be with Meghan at all. He just simply looks at his calendar of events and finds the down time and off he'll go. Same with her as we've seen her rumored to have "moved in" with Harry during her down time from filming Suits.

I have read nothing about such a walk. If he did one across Canada, and tied it into the Terry fox annual run for marathon of hope, he sound get a huge amount if support and press in Canada. Fox only made it from Newfoundland to western Ontario begins a cancer relapse. Every year we celebrate his run to raise cancer awareness. Or even Rick Hansen, and his world in motion tour, which ended with him crossing Canada back home to Vancouver. Though neither were wounded soldiers, one had an artificial leg abd the other in a wheelchair.

But as far as I know the next walk Harry is talking of, well reported, is to cross the Sahara. He doesn't organize them, he joins the tests for events planned by walking.

He did recently cross the UK. Perhaps that was what you were thinking.

 

[Osipi]

Love it when something sparks my research skills so I did sleuthing and found the information that brought the trek across America to my mind. Should have really found the details first but what the heck, its a lazy Sunday around here and its a day to work on mastering the fine art of doing nothing.

"I am also told that talks took place last week over another proposed charity trek – this time across America later in the summer. The event would see teams venturing from the East Coast to the West Coast, and it is anticipated that Harry will join them for several week-long stints."

GIRL ABOUT TOWN: Queen opens Balmoral for Harry's trek | Daily Mail Online

 

[Dman]

Do British Royals always stay at a provincial Government House when they are in Canada or does that apply only to official visits ? I am asking because, if Harry stays at an official residence, he probably won't be able to "move in together" with Meghan as they did in London.

The royals stay at Government House during official and State visits. This is not in Harry's case this time, I don't believe. I think Harry and his team will be staying at a hotel.

 

[Ish]

I have read nothing about such a walk. If he did one across Canada, and tied it into the Terry fox annual run for marathon of hope, he sound get a huge amount if support and press in Canada. Fox only made it from Newfoundland to western Ontario begins a cancer relapse. Every year we celebrate his run to raise cancer awareness. Or even Rick Hansen, and his world in motion tour, which ended with him crossing Canada back home to Vancouver. Though neither were wounded soldiers, one had an artificial leg abd the other in a wheelchair.

But as far as I know the next walk Harry is talking of, well reported, is to cross the Sahara. He doesn't organize them, he joins the tests for events planned by walking.

He did recently cross the UK. Perhaps that was what you were thinking.

Are you saying that Harry should do something for the Walking with the Wounded through the Terry Fox Foundation or the Rick Hansen Foundation? Or are you suggesting that he get involved with the Foundations themselves?

If Harry were to do something with the Walking with the Wounded in Canada I think it would get praised. Likewise if he did something with the Terry Fox or Rick Hansen Foundations. If he was to do a Walking Wounded/Terry Fox thing though... that's not really a natural link and I think he'd get criticized for it. I could easily see such an attempt being interpreted as taking focus away from Terry Fox.

 

[Cocoasneeze]

Relationshipwise it's nice for them to be able to spend more time in the same city, for longer periods of time. I don't know the protocol of these trips, but my logic says, that there shouldn't be a problem with him staying with Meghan, or her staying with him.

 

[Osipi]

I think the deciding factor of whether or not he stays with Meghan while in Toronto would depend on why he was there. If he was there as a representative of his monarch, most likely he would be lodged in government house. If he's there for his own patronages such as Invictus Games, he'd be free to stay wherever he liked. That would be where protocol comes in to play in certain situations. If he was representing his monarch, the visit would most likely be at the request of Canada,

 

[Rudolph]

Just like Orlando, The Invictus Games in Canada have nothing to do with Harry other than his name. The staff is Canadian. The board is Canadian.

My sister-in-law is a volunteer and Harry hasn't been to Toronto in an official capacity in almost a year.

If he wants to hook up with Meghan, fine. But I would caution him over using Invictus Toronto as an excuse to get with Meghan. Canadian media will see right through it.

Harry should tour Canada first before he tries to exploit it for a booty call.

 

[American Observer7]

Ya'll get a grip! Harry is NOT going to stay clear of Meghan while planning these games or while they may be going on. And we all know it! So cautioning him in this forum or in any other way is pointless. The guy is in love! Accept it!

 

[miss whirley]

Just like Orlando, The Invictus Games in Canada have nothing to do with Harry other than his name. The staff is Canadian. The board is Canadian.

My sister-in-law is a volunteer and Harry hasn't been to Toronto in an official capacity in almost a year.

If he wants to hook up with Meghan, fine. But I would caution him over using Invictus Toronto as an excuse to get with Meghan. Canadian media will see right through it.

Harry should tour Canada first before he tries to exploit it for a booty call.

Yeah, that reminds me of back in 2013 when Andrew scheduled engagements in NYC so he could visit Eugenie and all the press criticism he got for mixing business and pleasure.

Prince Andrew criticised over US trip that coincides with Princess Eugenie's arrival in New York - Telegraph

"He is in New York carrying out a series of official engagements, but has also used the trip to visit his daughter and take her out for dinner ."

If the press got angry over a father fitting in daughter time, they might not be too pleased about Harry having a romantic rendezvous with his gf. Then again they tend to overlook things with him that they will attack other royals for. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Osipi]

Judging from the way Harry and Meghan have worked their relationship so far, I would be inclined to believe that these two people are intelligent enough to know to keep their personal lives and their professional lives separate. I don't think we really have to worry about Harry "using" his royal status and royal engagements and visits to pursue his personal life and vice versa with Meghan and her professional role as an actress in Suits.

That's my take on it anyways.

 

[Lady Marmalade]

Run, Harry, run as fast as you can. I do not like or trust her or her family, too 21st century Hollywood, too fractured. Harry, find a nice, suitable, kind, well bred, young lady to be your wife.

 

[Osipi]

I don't get where you keep getting all this "Hollywood" from. She was raised in Los Angeles, sure, but her professional life that she's pursued for the past 7-8 years is out of Toronto, Canada and not Hollywood.

 

[Curryong]

'Well-bred'. So we are back to allusions about horse-breeding again!

 

[miss whirley]

It reminds me of the infamous Princess Michael quote, "The English take the breeding of their horses and dogs more seriously than they do their children. God forbid that the wrong drop of blood should get into their labrador. But their children marry everywhere."

 

[Osipi]

That really is a good quote to bring up in relation to how "well bred" Meghan isn't and isn't suitable for Harry. If the British Royal Family really wanted to ensure that Harry married what used to be termed as a "suitable gel", they would have demanded the all potential partners marrying into the BRF be required to submit their pedigree papers and resume to Debrett's before they even were allowed to date their royal partners and allowed into the gilded cage.

It borders on the ridiculous if you ask me. There is absolutely nothing demeaning or unsavory about having acting as a profession. People who look down on a person because of what they do are either very, very tall or have an overblown sense of importance of themselves and how they perceive that things should be.

 

[Stefanie]

Well, if he's stupid enough to marry her it'll become his own mistake....
He never had a proper feeling for a woman who fits for him IMO-and he never will!
Maybe this is one reason why Wills married this boring Katie: He might have been afraid to end up like Harry....

 

[Curryong]

I think first and foremost, whether you are Royal or not, a person who fits for you is someone you love desperately, can't live without, and is someone you have good times with and empathy for, with plenty of common interests.

There is absolutely no evidence that Harry wasn't serious in that way with his long time love Chelsy Davy, or with Cressida Bonas. They 'fitted'. The romances didn't work out for various reasons. That's life!

We can't all meet someone at university and then date for eight years. Harry was committed to Chelsy through several of those early years of William and Kate's courtship anyway, till 2009 in fact, so there would be no need for William to feel the way that you assert.

Plenty of people fall in love, think that he/she is 'the one' and then break up, at all stages of life. It's not some sort of moral failing to be single into your 30's! If Harry and Meghan are together, are serious about each other and committed, I can't see that others should be casting aspersions on him or her. None of us know them personally.