Prince Albert and Princess Charlene's Relationship - Part 2


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Thelma Ortiz was not his girlfriend. They met at Letizia's wedding in 2004. Then a lot of false rumours were circulating that she could be the new royal girlfriend.

That would be why i put
He has also been rumoured to have dated Letizia Ortiz' sister

and not has dated.
 
Good previous posts. I have a question. Did Prince Albert ever have any other girlfriend attend prominent public events like Ms. Wittstock? :flowers:
Tasha de Vasconcelos acted as his hostess a couple of times- but she never ever went to the Olympics to be introducd to other royals and she nver entered with the royal party at the balls. So I would say Charlene is more prominent in that sphere out by her innumerable appearances everywhere.
 
If Prince Albert does not marry Charlene then she looks the worst out of his girlfriends. I do not think that he ever entends to marry her either he has had her public for a long time with no real committment. I think a lot of people see through this relationship.
 
Several forum members have added names to the "List of Albert's Girlfriends".

Bahamagirl, I agree with you - I think he has never had any intention to marry anyone, despite the promise "Je me marierai" - I shall get married.

With the passage of time, his promise will sound more and more hollow.
But it's his decision, and all we can do is to watch from the sidelines.

Why, oh why do we get so worked up over his shenanigans??
 
Tasha de Vasconcelos acted as his hostess a couple of times- but she never ever went to the Olympics to be introducd to other royals and she nver entered with the royal party at the balls. So I would say Charlene is more prominent in that sphere out by her innumerable appearances everywhere.

Thanks Jaya.:flowers:
 
If Prince Albert does not marry Charlene then she looks the worst out of his girlfriends. I do not think that he ever entends to marry her either he has had her public for a long time with no real committment. I think a lot of people see through this relationship.
How many times is he looking at Charlene's eyes on this video? YouTube - The Rose Ball at Monaco
 
They are becoming an unique couple ("unique" because i don't want to say "weird"...wait,i've said it)
Sometimes they look like a couple, sometimes they don't. And maybe, the times when Albert had other girlfriends and didn't bring them to important galas such as Rose Ball and Red Cross, it was because of her father. Better don't bring them if they are not engaged. But as daddy is not around anymore, and he is the Soverign Prince now, he has some more freedom to do that. That's my point of view, I began follow the Grimaldis nearly before Rainier died.
My guess: Albert won't marry, and some of his nephews (most likely Andrea) will inherit the throne.
 
:previous: Well, a good way would be to start talking. :flowers:
 
I am not forgetting that, I in fact am constantly pointing it out. No doubt Charlene has free will and is there on her own volition, and at Albert's invitation, but do I think she has really dug herself in there and waits with baited breath hoping to wrestle a Title out of it? You bet! But, I've only been responding to the idea that seems is being volleyed around here by someone ;), that because of the length and public display of their romance, Albert now owes it to Charlene to marry her? Jaya I'm on the nay side for the very reasons you mention, Charlene is not a prisoner there? It is curious to me though what motivation she/he had in suing the press for referring to Charlene as Albert's girlfriend?

Albert was entrusted with Monaco's legacy, it is for him to do what he wants with it, and why I visit a forum discussing all this for all this time is beyond my own reasoning.:D Albert just seems to get himself into some tight places that no doubt he must have some regrets?

Personally I think the Olympic thing is stretching it a bit--Charlene seems to have little regard for her own experience there, or to any sport to highlight it as some great bond? I don't know it just seems a little thin? :whistling:

Jaya, I'm also with you too on the point that Albert himself can probably get away with a looser protocol, but I speak more about the events (sports or otherwise) when he is a guest or hosting other Royals or diplomats about how they might feel about it in regard to their own protocol? Do you think they might be slightly offended or feel disrespected? Seriously I don't know, maybe it's what they would expect? It's Albert's reputation to loose or gain?:flowers:


Actually Albert owes Charlene nothing. If she chooses to stay its on her own accord.

How does what work? The forum itself?

Yes, the forum itself?
 
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Literally, an incredibly complex number of systems involving algorithms and codes. :lol: If you're talking figuratively - then it's a forum for talking about royalty. So we post about current events (and the lives of royalty in general) and talk about them. Make enough sense? :flowers:
 
:previous: Well, a good way would be to start talking. :flowers:

Thank you, I just have

They are becoming an unique couple ("unique" because i don't want to say "weird"...wait,i've said it)
Sometimes they look like a couple, sometimes they don't. And maybe, the times when Albert had other girlfriends and didn't bring them to important galas such as Rose Ball and Red Cross, it was because of her father. Better don't bring them if they are not engaged. But as daddy is not around anymore, and he is the Soverign Prince now, he has some more freedom to do that. That's my point of view, I began follow the Grimaldis nearly before Rainier died.
My guess: Albert won't marry, and some of his nephews (most likely Andrea) will inherit the throne.

He is going to marry, it just not Charlene

I think PR will marry, but it won't be CW.
 
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I presume this is some sort of guest list for Princess Victoria and Daniel Westlings wedding, I don't know if it is an official list or one that the newspaper has written up but it has Prince Albert and Charlene Wittstock listed as both attending. Perhaps a Swedish member can clarify for us.

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WOW! That nice I think CW would prefer her own wedding.
 
WOW! That nice I think CW would prefer her own wedding.

For Ms Wittstock this is an honor to be invited.

I think the marriage probably will come when we least expect it. Prince Albert takes Charlene to many highlighted events, so I think he cares for her. I have a question. Is Prince Albert the marrying kind or a bachelor at heart? He doesn't have to marry because the succession of Princess Caroline and family (if he wants it to stand ) was put into place by his late father in 2002. Everything is in Prince Albert's hands.:flowers:
 
For me that is an odd behavior from Prince Albert to take Charlene there because she has not the legal status as engaged to him and the house of Grimaldi. Why doesn't he take one of his sisters with him there?
 
Such an honor for Charlene! to be invited to the wedding!
I didn't see Caroline or Stephanie there...I don't like that. Are they in the list? Maybe i missed them.
 
I didn't see Caroline or Stephanie there...I don't like that. Are they in the list? Maybe i missed them.

I looked and didn't see the princesses listed. Other royal houses had more the one representative invited. I think Princess Caroline of Hanover is a big slight on Sweden's part. I don't believe Princess Stephanie would care about it.:flowers:
 
For me that is an odd behavior from Prince Albert to take Charlene there because she has not the legal status as engaged to him and the house of Grimaldi. Why doesn't he take one of his sisters with him there?

Charlene is the one thats been invited.
It is possible that she has been invited of her own accord, as a friend of the Princess not as Prince Alberts date. Just like Eva Sannum attended the norwegian wedding as a friend of Mette-Marit.

I didn't see Caroline or Stephanie there...I don't like that. Are they in the list? Maybe i missed them.

No they are not on the list. Thats quite puzzling, because it's not like they have only chosen 2 members of each royal house to attend. There are 11 members of the Danish royal family attending, 6 members of the Norwegian one. :ermm:
 
^I see...I would have liked to see at least Caroline in the wedding. It's ... like weird that Charlene was invited and Caroline not. I mean, officially, Charlene is not member of the Monegasque House. But, as you said, Eva Sannum in her moment was invited as friend. Charlene could possibly have been invited as a friend of Victoria?
And, yes, it's puzzling not to see Caroline, when other houses have more than one guest invited.
 
For Ms Wittstock this is an honor to be invited.

I think the marriage probably will come when we least expect it. .:flowers:


:flowers: Well this wedding is going to turn out to be amazing day indeed.

I read that the newspaper list was directly from Sweden's Parliment list.
 
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Atricia, we are talking about the wedding of Crown Princess Victoria
of Sweden and Daniel Westling that will take place on June 19, the
article you've found and posted is about her younger sister Princess
Madeleine, she had been engaged as well, but the engagement was
broken a week ago.

About Charlene being invited I would say it's not such a big surprise,
surely a special wish of Crown Princess Victoria who gets along very
well with Prince Albert and has made similar experiences.

It's no surprise that Princess Stephanie isn't invited, she never has
been to any very official royal event. Princess Caroline could have
been invited as Prince Ernst-August's wife, representing the House
of Hanover, but as we know things a difficult and vague in that
marriage at the moment.

And we should not forget one very important thing: the Princely
house of Monaco is a princely not a royal house, that means in
a lower rank according to the court protocol, so less members
of such a family are invited. Plus: the bonds to families like the
Danish ones are much stronger.
 
I read that the newspaper list was directly from Sweden's Parliment list.

Yes the invites were sent by the Swedish parliament. :)
Just to clarify the wedding I am referring to is Princess Victoria's not Princess Madeleines. :flowers:
 
I wonder if Charlene will walk into the ceremony on Albert's arm or if she will go in alone or with another escort as Eva Sannum did at Haakon & Mette-Marit's wedding? As far as I am aware although Eva Sannum attended the wedding she didn't walk in with Prince Felipe.

I guess that is the changing traditions or restrictions of the up and coming royals who aren't set on keeping the old etiquette rules that their parents and grandparents did with regard to partners that weren't official members of royal houses (ie fiancee/fiance or wife/husband).

I am sure though that Victoria would have liked to have had a partner at a few of the events she had to attend alone because tradition or royal etiquette didn't allow her to bring a companion along.

(Please note that I personally have nothing against royal etiquette old or new and it was just an observation or thought)
 
As to Caroline, she may have got something else planned in June, and it's not as if she hasn't seen plenty of weddings and smililar events in her 50+ years...

As to Charlene, she can surely benefit from attending such an event. It might give her a bit more polish which may help her when attending other high profile functions.
 
About Charlene being invited I would
say it's not such a big surprise, surely a special wish of
Crown Princess Victoria who gets along very well with Prince Albert
and has made similar experiences.

It's no surprise that Princess Stephanie isn't invited, she never has
been to any very official royal event. Princess Caroline could have
been invited as Prince Ernst-August's wife, representing the House
of Hanover, but as we know things a difficult and vague in that
marriage at the moment.

And we should not forget one very important thing: the Princely
house of Monaco is a princely not a royal house, that means in
a lower rank according to the court protocol, so less members
of such a family are invited. Plus: the bonds to families like the
Danish ones are much stronger.


Iceflower very good observations.

Does anyone know if Prince Ernst-August Was invited to the wedding?
I did not see him on the published list. :flowers:
 
Yes the invites were sent by the Swedish parliament. :)
:flowers:

Thank u for info. :flowers:

Speaking of Charlene Wittstock attending the Swedish Royal wedding with Prince Albert of Monaco....
Did Prince Nickolas of Greece take his then girlfriend Tatianna to Prince Joachim of Denmarks wedding? When did they become engaged was it before or after Joachim's wedding?
Didn't she also attend a Royal Christening with Pr. Nickolas in Denmark?
 
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