"Letizia Ortiz: A republican in the Court of Juan Carlos I" by Isidre Cunill, 2010


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Are there any legal steps that she or the SRf can take regarding this book? Will they?
 
The El Mundo article posted by franks mentioned that the book had a part of the so called CNI report, with many spelling mistakes, the most obvious one is that 'y' (Spanish) was written to 'i' (Catalan). Obviously the report was written by the native Catalan speakers. I can't believe a formal CNI report on the future queen could't get the most basic Spanish right, if that's the real one, Spain is really in trouble :cool:.
I think the Catalan separatists made up of the CNI report.

Inaki is not married to the heir to the throne, plus he is a male, thus less interesting for the press. An upper class man cheating on his wife ? Unless someone can provide pictures or videos, it's not that interesting.
 
The author is a Catalan, yes, but not a separatist. On the contrary, he seems to be close to the far right.

One of his previous books was a report about the atrocities that allegedly were committed by "republicans" against priests just before the Spanish Civil War.
 
While I believe that the book is trashy and consists of unfounded theories or rumors, it was clear to me that at some point something like this would come up and probably will come up again, this time hopefully more serious and founded.

We must not forget that Letizia was basically thrown at Spanish people as fiancee, there was no public courtship, understandably, because she wouldnt have survived the public courtship as a divorced person etc. Felipe had been there before with Eva Sannum and wanted to be more clever this time.

The problem is that Letizia was being presented as fiancee already "cleaned up" by Zarzuela, some rumours about the time in Mexico or her divorce were brushed aside because the King had approved of the engagement and nobody would have dared to stand against the King at that time, the media is supposed to be free but only supposed to. In the meantime people have understood that anything about Letizia will sell and make them money.

I am not saying that she should have done a walk to Canossa (in case there are indeed some black episodes in her past a la Mette Marit) but I believe that at some point there will be the need for some clarifications because since her engagement Letizia's past has more or less been erased. She wasnt sent from heaven to become the future Queen of Spain after all.

Unless there will be a book that is kind of authorized (like Pilar Urbano for Queen Sofia) and will reflect a balanced truth, there will always be rumours about the Mexico time or divorce that will not go away and will finally harm the Royal House. Some people will now say that past is private, but how can the future Queen be private? Its only natural that people are interested and they do deserve some kind of information, but it should come from Zarzuela and not leave it to the gossip to start digging and bring up unfounded dirt.
 
Duncan said:
The author is a Catalan, yes, but not a separatist. On the contrary, he seems to be close to the far right.

One of his previous books was a report about the atrocities that allegedly were committed by "republicans" against priests just before the Spanish Civil War.
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I agree, he is not a separatist but to the far right movement.

And I also agree with DOM there is a demand for this kind of book about Letizia, it has been sold out in some places, and supposedly it came out today!
 
Un libro desvela oscuros episodios del pasado de la princesa Letizia

The book went on sale today. It remains to be seen whether it makes big enough waves and Zarzuela feels the need to comment on it. I would be surprised.

The accusations are not nice incl a supposed abortion in Mexico and a republican state of mind. If its true, Zarzuela will indeed have an image problem but as long as the author doesnt come up with proven facts it is gossip and reputation damage of the worst kind.
 
This things are not good to say for Letizia becase she didn't hurt nobody. Every person has a past and people must respect all personalities, not hurt the other individuals. I will never read this book.
 
Duke, it doesn't matter the courtship of Felipe and Leti is public known or not, it doesn't matter what she said and what she didn't say (Diana obviously had said enough), as long as she remains an enourmous interest for the press and public, some will continue throwing rumors and lies on her. Look at Princess Grace and Diana, even after their death, the rumors and lies have never stopped.
The author is a little known journalist, with the economic crisis, it's good to have little fame and cash too even at the expense of trying to damage the other person. I doubt it will damange Zarzuela or Letizia that much unless he has any proven evidence other than a fake CNI report (called by the El Mundo article). The CNI report looked like a product of some young and ignorant Catalan separatists who couldn't write basic Spanish properly, didn't know how the world worked. US is not Spain, foreigners can't get the free medical treatment by some good doctors/specialists. The price for the treatment by a specialist in US is extremely high, definitely not a middle class or even an upper middle class Spaniard could afford.
 
Being catalan doesn't make you a separatist, probably he is a republican but it's not the same thing. He is linked to the far right, how can he be a separatist?
 
Melibea said:
Being catalan doesn't make you a separatist, probably he is a republican but it's not the same thing. He is linked to the far right, how can he be a separatist?
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I haven't said the author is a separatist. I think whether he is right or left, he is as the article said 'few journalist knew him, belong to the night life, near the yellow press'. It doesn't prevent a far right person from using a report by anyone (including the separatists) as long as it serves the purpose. Recently there were quite a movement from the far right going against the monarchy too (articles on Jaime/Elena and Letizia from Epoca, also a far right magazine).
 
Epoca is also going against Letizia if we remember their last cover; anyway to get his hand on a supposed CNI report done by separatist he must have a connection to them which I doubt he would have, in the interview they say that they have talked about the book with their lawyers so at least he must be sure, after the Jueves fiasco I don't think that anyone would publish something like this without some kind of support. And really why must the one that did the report be a separatist because he didn't use "y" instead of "i" once?

I haven't read the book and is not in my plans either but publishing this kind of book makes me think of what is cooking behind the scenes.
 
Melibea said:
Being catalan doesn't make you a separatist, probably he is a republican but it's not the same thing. He is linked to the far right, how can he be a separatist?
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Separatists are of all the ideologies. CiU in Catalonia, or the PNV in the Basque country are conservatives and independents.

It is very difficult, but impossible, that the author could demonstrate with veracious and real proofs that what he says is true. First because the information be have to be true, and if it was true to obtain it several crimes would have been committed.

We are talking, for example, about a document from the National Intelligence Center, which would have been forged or stolen. They are the secret services, totally official and confidential information.

The medical reports of the persons are secret and personal, no doctor can reveal this information.

When the Princess was in the High school, she had less than 18 years, which means that to reveal this type of information also is problematic.

The author has copied gossip, he could blame the initial source (Internet, yellow press...) to rid it of problems.
 
IMO is not important if this autor's book contains lies because unfortunatelly the damage is done. We are talking here about horible things Letizia has done or not -it is not important. She will cary this burden of things this man says she has done (without any prove I suspect) . It will affect the SRF, her husband, her daughters and most of all...Letizia. And some are asking why she doesn't smile anymore...
 
He is linked to right wing (intereconomia, libertadigital), I've even read that he is from the Opus that's why I doubt that he is from a separatist ideology. I know very well the idiosyncrasies of separatism. ;)

He cannot cite as his source internet, I doubt that any judge would consider that to be a good source, he could be easily sued if that's the case. :lol:
 
Melibea said:
Epoca is also going against Letizia if we remember their last cover; anyway to get his hand on a supposed CNI report done by separatist he must have a connection to them which I doubt he would have, in the interview they say that they have talked about the book with their lawyers so at least he must be sure, after the Jueves fiasco I don't think that anyone would publish something like this without some kind of support. And really why must the one that did the report be a separatist because he didn't use "y" instead of "i" once?

I haven't read the book and is not in my plans either but publishing this kind of book makes me think of what is cooking behind the scenes.
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Beside using 'y' instead of 'i', some obvious spelling/grammartical mistakes too (according to the article). I think it's done by a Catalan, with a political agenda behind it, that's my opinion. Of course you can have a different one if you believe the report isn't fake. One doesn't need to be a separatist himself to know the separatists, especially for a Catalan journalist, my friend knew a couple, she is not a separatist. A fake report is usually done to be known, does it really matter who publishes it ?

Melibea said:
He cannot cite as his source internet, I doubt that any judge would consider that to be a good source, he could be easily sued if that's the case. :lol:
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They know Zarzuela likely won't sue them since Zarzuela doesn't want to fuel the fire IMO.
 
I'm only rebutting the point that he is a separatist only for some ortographic error, sure the guy that did the dossier must be catalan but a separatist? And I've already considered the point that he is not going to be sued in my previous post, but still the other editorial didn't publish his book why now?
 
The Royal House has never denounced, why were they going to do it now? They do not change this way, probably they would have to do it some time ago, and the people would not have so few scruples.

Only denounced the Attorney General, and now the Government and the country already have enough problems, and they won´t give publicity to this man and cause an institutional problem involving the National Intelligence Center into a controversy.

Melibea, the book has been published by a small and unknown publishing house, why now? It can be for multiple reasons...economic, political...

The economic crisis has provoked problems in many companies, if the big publishing houses have problems, more a small one. If the Royal House has not denounced other books, why is it going to denounce this one? They continue for ahead and gain a lot of money...

Or maybe simply they want to destabilize and to attack to the Monarchy, the King has been sick, it has produced uncertainty, doubts ... for the first time, the succession has been seen as something real. What better moment to create doubts?
 
Sure I know, but the doubts must been there before when all the books that have arrived to the stores have been bought. So there was demand for this kind of book as DOM say. Although I agree with you they do have some kind of objective the interesting thing will be to see if it's going to be "special" or more similar books/articles will appear in the future.

About the jueves fiasco I doubt the government would have acted without the approval of the SRF.
 
Melibea, is a small, almost unknown publishing house ... how many books do you believe that they have put to the sale? Probably initially few, now with the advertising they will be editing more... the people read the gossip, later I do not believe that many want to spend their money.
 
lula said:
Melibea, the book has been published by a small and unknown publishing house, why now? It can be for multiple reasons...economic, political...

The economic crisis has provoked problems in many companies, if the big publishing houses have problems, more a small one. If the Royal House has not denounced other books, why is it going to denounce this one? They continue for ahead and gain a lot of money...

Or maybe simply they want to destabilize and to attack to the Monarchy, the King has been sick, it has produced uncertainty, doubts ... for the first time, the succession has been seen as something real. What better moment to create doubts?
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I think you have summerized nicely here.
 
lula said:
The Royal House has never denounced, why were they going to do it now? They do not change this way, probably they would have to do it some time ago, and the people would not have so few scruples.
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I think Zarzuelas no comment strategy has made them very vulnerable, especially when it comes down to Letizia. They should have drawn a line a long time ago when to react and be more in control of information, eg by selecting a biographer, instead of giving people the chance to use the topic for their own purposes or bad intentions. It wasnt difficult to see this coming, if people not only get the chance of making a lot of money but also can combine a political agenda of course they will go for it.

I am not surprised that the publishing house is small and unimportant, none of the big ones would take on the topic. The SRF have been courting the media for years, they either give a prize or visit a journalist, radio or TV station every other week, in order to have the media on their side when it comes down to succession. No serious Spanish media would risk a feud with the future King and Queen.

Rumours about Letizia have been circling for years, especially about the Mexico time, Letizia said in an interview before she went she wanted "a free life", the nude painting, the PhD that she started and never finished (very unlike her). Same goes for the abortion, there have been speculations for years and its highly controversial since Queen Sofia condemned the practice in her own biography.

I think the damage has been done, true or not, and unfortunately its not about the usual gossip, like plastic surgery or a new purse, but nasty alligations that undermine the reputation of a future Queen, because, if true, in hindsight a lot of actions or image presentation would appear very fake / putting on a big show.
 
Being a very conservative and religious person doesn't have anything with being an independentist: PNV was the first separatist political party in the Basque Country and it was born highly religious and conservative.
And people with the same goals for different reasons can get in contact with each other(separatists who don't want a RF, conservatives who don't like Letizia, non separatists republicans...)
In the interview the publisher said the book had nothing new, that everything they write has been circulating on the internet since she got married(Are you kidding me?) and he denies being an anti semitic publisher because another "controversial" book they published on jews. A very reputable publisher, it seems:whistling:
Zarzuela can't(or won't) do anything and they know it, that's why they went ahead with what is obviously slander.
I doubt this is going to have a big impact on spaniards' opinion of Letizia or harm the RF, his claims are so ridiculous that even if there was some thruth in them nodoby will believe them. Every serious newspaper is writing/has written an article or a blog on this(Nothing much, the book doesn't deserve it) and there is no journalist that "believes" anything. For example, an extract from a blog on the most read newspaper website(It's all they say about this book, imagine how much they care)

" Ya les he hablado en varias ocasiones del periodismo basura, de la insidia y de los subterfugios que puede utilizar esta prensa irresponsable y amarilla. No dejamos La Gaceta, que publicaba ayer una página entera para denunciar un libro de próxima aparición que, dice este diario, “ataca a doña Letizia [pero] no aporta pruebas ni novedades”. Con la repugnante fórmula de negar la veracidad de las acusaciones -“Las insidias de Cunill (el autor del libro) sobre doña Letizia"- La Gaceta las va enumerando una a una. Ejemplos falsos: Asesinó a un niño con sus propias manos cuando estuvo en México; trata a la Familia Real a gritos y pega con un cinturón (de Carlota Herrera, eso sí) al Príncipe Felipe y a sus hijas; participó con Pío Moa en varios atentados de los GRAPO; fue portada en varias ocasiones de Interviú; vendía heroína en las Barranquillas. El periódico dice otras cosas, claro, pero no vamos a reproducir lo que dice para no incurrir en las triquiñuelas que denunciamos. Con esta trampa-bazofia, La Gaceta ya les ha dicho que el libro cuenta que doña Letizia era una asesina, que maltrata a su familia, que era una roja extremista, una descocada y una violenta narcotraficante. Basura periodística... basura política."
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ETA y el destripador masón >> El ojo izquierdo >> Blogs ELPAÍS.com
They write that the book says Letizia had an abortion, was a republican extremist, member of a terrotist group, she yells at every member of the RF, hits Felipe and her daughters with a belt, was caught selling heroin....And call this journalism rubbish and also political rubbish(about the book and the newspaper that published all the accusations agaisnt Letizia saying they were false first)
It's the only mention this newspaper(the most read in Spain) has made of the book, part of a blog post about other newspapers printing all the accusations about Letizia.
I'm sure the only people who care are here in this board, not the average spaniard who can't read anything like that without laughing at it.
 
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As far as I remember, the only denials the House of the King has issued in recent times have been about Letizia wearing braces and about her being anorexic.

Now they have said, apparently, that they don't know anything about the book and that the allegations aren't important enough to comment on them:
A Zarzuela el libro no le quita el sueo

There has been much talk about the book on radio and TV. Most of those that discussed the book said that there is nothing really wrong in the behavior described in it, and that those events are very common in a woman of her generation. They didn't say the events are false, not that I heard it.

Some people think that the book may have been published right now in order to give rise to this new wave of favorable comments in the media about Letizia's background. I don't know what to think.
 
So what's the report on the book sale? Is it a hit? LOL...I'm anxious to see whether Zarzuela will address the issue.
 
Duncan said:
As far as I remember, the only denials the House of the King has issued in recent times have been about Letizia wearing braces and about her being anorexic.

Now they have said, apparently, that they don't know anything about the book and that the allegations aren't important enough to comment on them:
A Zarzuela el libro no le quita el sueo
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Zarzuela usually commented on the rumors regarding the health of their members, for example recently they denied that the King had been receiving the chemo therapy, but there is no precedence on commenting on the books attacking the RF. The heart program journalists also didn't think Zarzuela would sue the arthor even if he was telling the lies. They also said some books on the King were worse too, for example 'the loneliness of the King' published a while ago and Zarzuela didn't go for the lawsuit either. I don't know what the book was about, maybe very exaggerated stories on corruption and infidelity of the King (what else can be) ?
 
The truth about princess Letitzia

As per the Italian news channels which today revealed some shocking news and truth about Princess Letizia I am amazed as to how it was not reported here, but any way, to every one who wishe to know the real truth behind the future Queen of Spain should know the following:

She was previously married and divorced.
She fathered a child but killed the child in New York as she could not obtain an abortion in 1990 in Mexico.
She is not of the Catholic faith but agnostic (an Agnostic will one day be seating on one of the most Catholic of all thrones!)
She was involved in several sexual and immoral photographs

there is more but I will stop there, I am not making this stuff up I am simply revealing the truth. I am as much a Royalist and monarchist as the holy saints were and I am ashamed that this women will ever reign such a once Catholic country. disgusting!
 
Letitzia!! Letitzia! You have to answer for teh blood of an innocent child which you gave your consent to it's innocent murder, I would rather die then see you on the Catholic throne of Spain! I am in no way trying to judge your private life, but whats black must be always called black! One day to be Queen. Repent! Repent! there is still hope.
 
Priest008 said:
As per the Italian news channels which today revealed some shocking news and truth about Princess Letizia I am amazed as to how it was not reported here, but any way, to every one who wishe to know the real truth behind the future Queen of Spain should know the following:

She was previously married and divorced.
She fathered a child but killed the child in New York as she could not obtain an abortion in 1990 in Mexico.
She is not of the Catholic faith but agnostic (an Agnostic will one day be seating on one of the most Catholic of all thrones!)
She was involved in several sexual and immoral photographs

there is more but I will stop there, I am not making this stuff up I am simply revealing the truth. I am as much a Royalist and monarchist as the holy saints were and I am ashamed that this women will ever reign such a once Catholic country. disgusting!
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Is there any proof of the above or is it just media title-tatle .We knew she was previously married and divorced,the rest is none of my business .
 
I am sorry, I haven't read the book but I would assume this basic information is out there.....what proof has the author presented to CONFIRM and not SPECULATE that Letizia had an abortion?

A receipt, a copy of her medical records and/or interviews with the doctors and nurses, etc.

Any proof before people start demanding that she repent for taking the life of an unborn child?
 
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