Official media knows that Hessa was Zayed's wife, then why wouldn't mention it. Yes, sometimes they dont add wife of this Sheikh, this is because of their lack of information. I still believe that media doesn't know which daughter of Tahnoon bin Mohammed married to whom even though they know Mouza and Salama bint Tahnoon very well.
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Official media knows that Hessa was Zayed's wife, then why wouldn't mention it. Yes, sometimes they dont add wife of this Sheikh, this is because of their lack of information. I still believe that media doesn't know which daughter of Tahnoon bin Mohammed married to whom even though they know Mouza and Salama bint Tahnoon very well.
Zayed's last 4 marriages' first child was born in
Shamsa-1960
Mohammed-1961
Latifa-1963
Issa-1966
Khalifa's marriage happened in 1964 and this sums up well
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Puchu the example you gave it doesn’t say Fatima was Zayed’s wife after his death so the same logic can be applied to Hessa.
Scenario 1 - Zayed already died in 2004 and her son was the president so it is more important to note she is the mother of the president Khalifa.
Scenario 2 - they divorced.
However you added the dates of the 4 children’s birthdate so it is likely that they divorced.
Although some royals don’t keep to the 4 wives limit (look at the Saudi royals). Could it be that he exceed the wives limit so he could have children and secure alliances and then divorced later?
Scenario 1 - Zayed already died in 2004 and her son was the president so it is more important to note she is the mother of the president Khalifa.
Scenario 2 - they divorced.
However you added the dates of the 4 children’s birthdate so it is likely that they divorced.
Although some royals don’t keep to the 4 wives limit (look at the Saudi royals). Could it be that he exceed the wives limit so he could have children and secure alliances and then divorced later?
But Hessa and Zayed's divorce rumor is there, if they didn’t separate then this wouldn't be aired.
As I know Saudi Kings divorce too frequently, there are some misinformations. I also dont say that All Kings are like this but there are chances. In wiki or other websites, you will find that Zayed was married to 6 or 7, divorced none. But we know the truth. Some cannot say how much children anyone have. Websites aren't obvious tools for all informations
Haya was always mentioned as 6th wife while she was 2nd wife and her husband already divorced all. So, everything is not true.
As I know Saudi Kings divorce too frequently, there are some misinformations. I also dont say that All Kings are like this but there are chances. In wiki or other websites, you will find that Zayed was married to 6 or 7, divorced none. But we know the truth. Some cannot say how much children anyone have. Websites aren't obvious tools for all informations
Haya was always mentioned as 6th wife while she was 2nd wife and her husband already divorced all. So, everything is not true.
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So the most likely situation is that they divorced but remained close.
Also it makes sense as she was at least 20 years older than the other wives by my estimation.
Probably they knew he needed to get married more to secure alliances.
I could also see if Hessa was his favourite wife; they were cousins and around the same age as him so she was more mature? Or understanding of how things worked.
Also it makes sense as she was at least 20 years older than the other wives by my estimation.
Probably they knew he needed to get married more to secure alliances.
I could also see if Hessa was his favourite wife; they were cousins and around the same age as him so she was more mature? Or understanding of how things worked.
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There was also another wife of Zayed maybe Aisha? Or Fatima? people say she died young and also had a child but the child died young.
Do you know of this?
Do you know of this?
Al Dhaheri are the biggest allies of Al Nahyan outside of Bani Yas, it is an old and strong alliance. The Al Otaiba, as far as I know, are not historical allies of the Bani Yas, but the families have become close due to commercial interests.
I don't know how to estimate the kinship, but yes, they are related.
And yes, the Al Nahyan historically prefer to marry other members of the Bani Yas rather than the other ruling families.
Exactly.
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Khalifa's mother Hessa was married to Zayed probably when Zayed was 20. she was his senior wife, only Al-Nahyan wife. Only after he was in his 40s and he had political ambitions or the fact that it was inevitable that he would be ruler, he started marrying many women in 60s. May be they were not divorced(could be because she was senior wife), but she lived in Al-Ain while Zayed continued to live in Abu Dhabi with Fatima. But looks like he was always in touch her over telephone and trusted her judgement. Living with Zayed must have given Fatima a chance to elevate her sons esp. first son to be named deputy crown prince.
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Mentioned as 6th wife just means, that she is the wife number 6 he got married too. But it doesnt mean, he was still married to every of his wifes as the marriage number 6 take place.
I have understood.
But Haya was 10th/ 11th wife if we consider all wives, so this is also an information gap.
These are Zayed's wife.
Sheikh Zayed married twice before Hassa. Those wives died/got divorced.
One of them was Alia bint Muhammad Salimin Al Shamsi. She died soon after marriage. This info is confirmed.
Other one is unknown. Not sure if he had this wife, no info is available.
✪Zayed married Hassa bint Mohammed Al Nahyan in 30s, (10 years before Khalifa's birth).
✪Zayed married Fatima bint Obaid Al Muhairi and she is the mother of Salama (they got divorced)
✪Zayed married Shaikha Al Mashgouni in 50s and divorced her. (Umm Sultan)
✪Zayed married Mouza bint Suhail Al Khaili (Umm Saif) in 1959/60 and remained married.
✪Zayed married Fatima bint Mubarak Al Ketbi (Umm MBZ) in 1960/1959 and remained married.
✪Zayed married Aisha bint Ali Al Darmaki (Umm Saeed) in early 60s and said to be divorced in late 70s. It is not sure.
✪Zayed married Amna bint Salah Al Darmaki (Umm Issa) in 1965 and divorced later.
These informations are collected from a book. Remember that not all infos in that book are true.
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From the above information, am guessing, Purplerain must be referring to Alia. Just a speculation because she died young and death during child birth was common in that era.
Agree with you Puchu, not all the information in the book is correct. But they have tried their best to reconstruct what happened in the past with the limited information they have.
Its sad that 6 of Zayed the great daughters were unmarried because they didnt had paternal cousins and their father didnt want them to give outside the family. Strange thinking on his part.
Agree with you Puchu, not all the information in the book is correct. But they have tried their best to reconstruct what happened in the past with the limited information they have.
Its sad that 6 of Zayed the great daughters were unmarried because they didnt had paternal cousins and their father didnt want them to give outside the family. Strange thinking on his part.
But Zayed the great was still part of Al Falahi family. How he could lack nephews or boys of that family!
Yes, this book is quite helpful. The writer tried to explain everything upon repeated reason which isn't quite accurate. But I would recommend this book if someone has interest on Al Nahyans and Al Maktoums
The book doesn't go into much detail, but some of Zayed's daughters married Al Falahi cousins and also the sons of Zayed's only brother, Dhiyab.
But I believe that this detailed information is not available in English, only in Arabic; and some details can only be obtained by consulting the family itself.
But I believe that this detailed information is not available in English, only in Arabic; and some details can only be obtained by consulting the family itself.
Do you have detailed Arabic sources? Recommend me
https://instagram.com/almawrooth?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==
The post below details the life of Salma bint Zayed, who married Mohamed bin Dhiyab (son of Zayed's brother)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvCGuXZpJNe/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==
The post below details the life of Mahra bint Zayed, who married Mohamed bin Saif bin Zayed Al Falahi
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqvT2ZqJHMp/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==
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Thanks for the source!
The translation is too funny! This refers bint Al Thabbaha ( pronunciation is Jabbaha) as the daughter of slaughterhouse
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The book mentioned 2 elder daughters of Zayed 1 married two sons of Dhiyab and later he cudnt find suitors for the rest 6 in paternal lineage.
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Are Dubai family/people not Bedouin people ? What does Bedouin people mean ? I thought all are tribals only
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A picture of Zayed the great.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwafjTYpAAP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwafjTYpAAP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
No, this is Zayed (the founder) and baby Khalifa bin Zayed.
In my previous post there is a picture of Zayed the great.
I believe that the book is outdated in relation to this part of the story, today it is possible to get more information; the main problem is the language barrier
Yes, they were Bedouins like any other tribe in the Bani Yas.
Bedouins = pastorally nomadic Arab tribes who have historically inhabited the desert regions
In my previous post there is a picture of Zayed the great.
I believe that the book is outdated in relation to this part of the story, today it is possible to get more information; the main problem is the language barrier
Yes, they were Bedouins like any other tribe in the Bani Yas.
Bedouins = pastorally nomadic Arab tribes who have historically inhabited the desert regions
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Thank you for correcting me. Traslation said with grandson Khalifa. So I assumed it must be zayed1.
So at one time Khalifa Zayed1 and later his son Mohamed were powerful and kingmakers. Later Zayed gave sons of Mohamed powerful roles, but later replaced them with his own sons. Now they are just rich and figureheads and elders. Once they are all gone, Bani Mohamed will no longer be powerful or influential. That explains why MBZs son-in-law Mohamed bin Hamad bin Tahnoun is more inclined towards MBZ than his father or grandfather. What do you think his future will be ? He has 3 beautiful daughters and has verr good chance to make some strategic alliances and he still looks or is very young.
So at one time Khalifa Zayed1 and later his son Mohamed were powerful and kingmakers. Later Zayed gave sons of Mohamed powerful roles, but later replaced them with his own sons. Now they are just rich and figureheads and elders. Once they are all gone, Bani Mohamed will no longer be powerful or influential. That explains why MBZs son-in-law Mohamed bin Hamad bin Tahnoun is more inclined towards MBZ than his father or grandfather. What do you think his future will be ? He has 3 beautiful daughters and has verr good chance to make some strategic alliances and he still looks or is very young.
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So Bedouin Covers Middle East Arabs including Saudis ? It covers Kuwait, qatar, bahrain trucial states, Oman, Saudis Not african Arabs. Primarily Persian Gulf Arabs right ?
The entire Arab world, including North Africa
If he's the same age as his wife (39), he hasn't even turned 40 yet. In fact he is still very young and has a lot of future ahead of him.
Hard to know MBZ's plans; he can be an eternal shadow for his father-in-law, accompanying him everywhere with that generic title of "adviser for something"; or he can gain autonomy and assume a big position (a ministry, a department, company, NSA...). But it is a fact that as long as MBZ is around, he will be influential, and it is also a fact that marriages involving his son and daughters will reflect his father-in-law's interests, not his.
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Yeah, MBZ would focus more on his sons and after that his grandchildren may be.
Is this a cycle in absolute monarchy ? Zayed elevated his nephews bin Mohamed and later replaced them with his sons. MBZ similarly placed his full brothers in strategic roles and in near future would replace them with his sons ? Is the same pattern followed in neighbouring states too ?
MBZ still has not revealed his plans for Hamdan and Zayed. Hamdan is like a shadow following his father everywhere. Have to see what he has in mind for them.
Is this a cycle in absolute monarchy ? Zayed elevated his nephews bin Mohamed and later replaced them with his sons. MBZ similarly placed his full brothers in strategic roles and in near future would replace them with his sons ? Is the same pattern followed in neighbouring states too ?
MBZ still has not revealed his plans for Hamdan and Zayed. Hamdan is like a shadow following his father everywhere. Have to see what he has in mind for them.
I have something to say about this. I have observed a little bit and came to conclusion that whole Hamad bin Tahnoon family is less close to bani Khalifa and bani Tahnoon. Only Tahnoon bin Hamad's daughters are seen with Khalifa family as their mother is a granddaughter of Khalifa. Hamad bin Tahnoon family is close to Issa's family. Sh Hamad is all about business means. Khalifa bin Issa and Khalifa bin Hamad are close friends. Same applies to Shakhbout family. Shakhbout family loves Hissa bint Hamad a lot and I assume she is not also close to all first cousins.
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In any monarchy.
Just look at the line of succession of any European monarchy, look for the oldest princes and see what position they were in when they were born and what position they occupy today.
I've said it here repeatedly: there's no room in power for everyone.
I am too much excited about Hessa and Zayed bin Mohammed bin Hamad's marriages than Zayed MbZ's. Just thinking, If Hessa marries first among all of her siblings, then it would be Sheikh Zayed's first great great grandchild's marriage! Khalifa and Tahnoon's first great granddaughter's wedding! No one is compatible with her. I wish we get her engagement news soon as her Aunt.
The difference, for me, is that Zayed is destined for a powerful position, regardless of the woman at his side. In the case of Hessa, a marriage with her is the chance, perhaps the only chance, for one of these boys to enter politics and reach power.
Yesterday I saw the stories of KSN playing sport in the sea, you must have seen it, and I was wondering what kind of position he will have, I hope this inclination towards a "playboy lifestyle" does not hinder his career. But I believe MBZ wouldn't have authorized the engagement if he didn't trust KSN
I agree with you.
KSN is an adventurous man, more similar to CP Hamdan. He also have collections like his uncle Hamad. Do you think he will be the uae ambassador or an advisor? I think he has capabilities to be the minister of youth. Though no Sheikh or Sheikhas held this postition before.
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