General News about Frederik, Mary and Family 5: December 2009 - July 2010

[Lumutqueen]

Because they are friends?
Do we know that she's completely hooked on drugs?
She was convicted of possession correct? That doesn't neccesarily mean she's using.
Mary can be friends with who she likes, some of the people Prince William and Harry hang around with do drugs.
Both Prince Harry and Lord Freddie Windsor have done drugs in the past.

 

[H.M. Margrethe]

Because they are friends?
Do we know that she's completely hooked on drugs?
She was convicted of possession correct? That doesn't neccesarily mean she's using.
Mary can be friends with who she likes, some of the people Prince William and Harry hang around with do drugs.
Both Prince Harry and Lord Freddie Windsor have done drugs in the past.

I think that the only reason for Rigmor Zobel and CP Mary are friends is that rigmor Zobels farther is a hunting friend with Prince Henrik (senior)
You are rigth that Mary can be friends with who ever she likes,BUT if she is a friend with Rigmor Zobel and she is doing drugs i think that that friendship will damage Marys role as a Queen...

We all know that doing drugs is NOT the best way to take care of oure body and i think that the both senior and junior royals is rollmodels for the rest of us..

 

[Lumutqueen]

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You are rigth that Mary can be friends with who ever she likes,BUT if she is a friend with Rigmor Zobel and she is doing drugs i think that that friendship will damage Marys role as a Queen...

You live in Denmark, has this story made a big splash in the water?
Mary will be Queen in what 15-20 years maybe?
Do you think people, anyone is going to remember this dinner?

 

[H.M. Margrethe]

You live in Denmark, has this story made a big splash in the water?
Mary will be Queen in what 15-20 years maybe?
Do you think people, anyone is going to remember this dinner?

The story has had the headlines in the news since the day that Rigmor Zobel got arrested with the drugs...ther has been a trial agienst Rigmor Zobel and it did not went out for her because she has to pay hear fine..She said that she migth file for court aginst the cops who arrested and interrogatede her because she felt that they was to hard to her regardin answers.. I know som coops and they says that it was a very mild kind of interrogasion of her..
But to the fact yes it has made a HUGE scandal her in Denmark..and we danes are unfortunately to god to remember what the stars/royal has made of mistakes even if it happend 10-20 years ago..

 

[Lumutqueen]

The story has had the headlines in the news since the day that Rigmor Zobel got arrested with the drugs...ther has been a trial agienst Rigmor Zobel and it did not went out for her because she has to pay hear fine..She said that she migth file for court aginst the cops who arrested and interrogatede her because she felt that they was to hard to her regardin answers.. I know som coops and they says that it was a very mild kind of interrogasion of her..
But to the fact yes it has made a HUGE scandal her in Denmark..and we danes are unfortunately to god to remember what the stars/royal has made of mistakes even if it happend 10-20 years ago..

I never meant the drugs case, i ment this meeting between Mary and Rigmor?
How many newspapers have picked it up? Has it made the news today?
In 10-20 years i don't think many people will remember this specific meeting.

 

[H.M. Margrethe]

I never meant the drugs case, i ment this meeting between Mary and Rigmor?
How many newspapers have picked it up? Has it made the news today?
In 10-20 years i don't think many people will remember this specific meeting.

Well the meeting between Mary and Rigmor has also mad big headlines thes dayes..As far as i know it´s papers like ekstrabladet,bt, se og hør and billedebladet...

 

[Freye]

The headlines are a bit misleading.
The facts are these.
Mary was invited to a dinner at a restaurant with count Johan and countess Rebecca Wedell-Wedellsborg.
A large group of people were invited according to Mary's friend Ellen Hillengsø who was also there.
Ms Zobel also happened to be one of the people at the party.
That does not make them close friends.

Zobel has mixed in the same social circles as Joachim and Alexandra for many years.
She is NOT part of Mary and Frederik's inner circle.
Her father is a friend of Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik.
It's probable that the Crown Princess and Zobel did not know the other would be attending.

 

[dazzling]

The headlines are a bit misleading.
The facts are these.
Mary was invited to a dinner at a restaurant with count Johan and countess Rebecca Wedell-Wedellsborg.
A large group of people were invited according to Mary's friend Ellen Hillengsø who was also there.
Ms Zobel also happened to be one of the people at the party.
That does not make them close friends.

Zobel has mixed in the same social circles as Joachim and Alexandra for many years.
She is NOT part of Mary and Frederik's inner circle.
Her father is a friend of Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik.
It's probable that the Crown Princess and Zobel did not know the other would be attending.

Thank you for clearing up things, it was indeed misleading and makes one wonder why Mary would meet with someone who made headline with cocaine in public.
Do we know what the purpose of the dinner was? Birthday maybe?

 

[Lumutqueen]

Thank you for clearing up things, it was indeed misleading and makes one wonder why Mary would meet with someone who made headline with cocaine in public.
Do we know what the purpose of the dinner was? Birthday maybe?

The MSN starlounge article doesn't say what event it was, a gathering perhaps.
It says there was some form of party afterwards with snoop dogg.

 

[Ccile]

The MSN starlounge article doesn't say what event it was, a gathering perhaps.
It says there was some form of party afterwards with snoop dogg.

I guess the article was reffering to the music they listened during this party

 

[greenways]

Mary went for dinner with friends, nothing unusual there I guess.

 

[stellam]

Well, with all the media attention this gathering received I doubt Mary will allow herself to be seen in public, in the company of Ms Zobel, again.

 

[UserDane]

The headlines are a bit misleading.
The facts are these.
Mary was invited to a dinner at a restaurant with count Johan and countess Rebecca Wedell-Wedellsborg.
A large group of people were invited according to Mary's friend Ellen Hillengsø who was also there.
Ms Zobel also happened to be one of the people at the party.
That does not make them close friends.

Zobel has mixed in the same social circles as Joachim and Alexandra for many years.
She is NOT part of Mary and Frederik's inner circle.
Her father is a friend of Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik.
It's probable that the Crown Princess and Zobel did not know the other would be attending.

I totally agree Freye.
And another reason this is blown completely out of proportion is that months ago, when Rigmor Zobel appeared in court for the first time there was reporting restrictions meaning that she could not be identified by name in the media before the trial. Unfortunately for her, this restriction only came some hours after she had appeared in court and for a few hours the story was splashed out on all the tabloid internet sites with her picture and name. Afterwards, the story was widely referenced with a blurred picture of Rigmor and thinly concealed references to her identity. The press has had a field day and named her the jet set cocaine queen and similar names ever since.

Seeing Mary at the same table as Rigmor was just what the tabloids needed to spin another end and involve the royals in that endless and by now rather boring story

 

[Tricota]

Because they are friends?
Do we know that she's completely hooked on drugs?
She was convicted of possession correct? That doesn't neccesarily mean she's using.
Mary can be friends with who she likes, some of the people Prince William and Harry hang around with do drugs.
Both Prince Harry and Lord Freddie Windsor have done drugs in the past.

Well, lets hope she is a user, because in the eyes of the law, if you have drugs on you, you are either using, or selling. The defefence of "I was just holding them for a friend" doesnt really do that much good.

But no. Outside the tabloids, this is not a really big story, though everyone agrees that it doesnt look too good. But asuming nothing else happens, the tabloids will be upset with something else next week and in a few months it will be forgotten.

 

[4Pam]

I don't really think that Mary attending the dinner with Rigmor is the publics business. Who she chooses to hang out with in private is her choice and if this Rigmor person is one of them so be it. It's not like Mary uses drugs, I think she knows better as a royal wife. The only reason why this dinner is getting any attention at all is because Mary attended had she not we wouldn't even be talking about this. Mary went to dinner and there was someone who was convicted for drugs. Not a big deal and it shouldn't be at all.

It's like when Harry was caught with marijuana, big deal because of who HE IS . His Dad and brother are both future kings and his grandmothers the queen. If Harry isn't who he is no one would care.

 

[grevinnan]

I doubt the royal family and their close friends are going to exclude Rigmor from their lives because of the cocaine issue. Who do you think she is buying/using it with? I don't think she hides out at night in some downtown street corner. Unfortunately cocaine is used in all levels of society. Although one hopes it is not widespread it probably was not a surprise to her circle of friends that cocaine was available.

 

[avrilo]

This is absurd. Mary is a grown woman, I bet she knows who should or should not be her friend.

I guess if the Royal house or the princess her self considered it was ill for her public image to be seen with this woman, perhaps she would have not attended that dinner or avoided paparazzis

 

[GömdNatt]

I doubt the royal family and their close friends are going to exclude Rigmor from their lives because of the cocaine issue. Who do you think she is buying/using it with? I don't think she hides out at night in some downtown street corner. Unfortunately cocaine is used in all levels of society. Although one hopes it is not widespread it probably was not a surprise to her circle of friends that cocaine was available.

are you suggesting members of the royal family may be using DRUGS?

 

[grevinnan]

are you suggesting members of the royal family may be using DRUGS?

I merely put Rigmor in a context rather than as the outcast some posts assume she should be.

 

[sjetajiem]

So now after a dutch Mabel-gate we now have a danish Donaldson-gate.
I suppose there will be a parliamentary inquiry about the relations of the danish CP.

 

[Lumutqueen]

So now after a dutch Mabel-gate we now have a danish Donaldson-gate.
I suppose there will be a parliamentary inquiry about the relations of the danish CP.

I don't think it will be that serious, a parliamentary inquiry would be useless.
It would be Parliament telling the Crown Princess who she could be friends with, ridiculous.

And it wouldn't be a donaldson gate, due to Mary's change in name.

 

[sjetajiem]

The friendship with a convicted cocaïne user and the behaviour a member of her charity organization being suspected of possessing child-porno shows a lack of judgement from the side of the CP.
I think this is a major blunder and should at least be investigated in Parliament

 

[Lumutqueen]

The friendship with a convicted cocaïne user and the behaviour a member of her charity organization being suspected of possessing child-porno shows a lack of judgement from the side of the CP.
I think this is a major blunder and should at least be investigated in Parliament

What are they going to investigate her for?
Going to dinner with a large group of friends which happened to include Rigmor.
This member of her charity organization, where have you heard this? Cause that was not mentioned in the story.

As Freye said before

A large group of people were invited according to Mary's friend Ellen Hillengsø who was also there.
Ms Zobel also happened to be one of the people at the party.
That does not make them close friends.

She is NOT part of Mary and Frederik's inner circle.

 

[sjetajiem]

I think that someone holding a position as future Queen should be spotless!!
People should be confident that their Head of State and his family are not involved in any form of drugs or child-porno.
When crownprince Frederik became engaged to Mary Donaldson there was never anything about an investigation or a permission from the Parliament about the marriage.
In our democracy (Holland) there will always be a parliamentary investigation about blunders made by Royals or Politicians

 

[Lumutqueen]

I think that someone holding a position as future Queen should be spotless!!
People should be confident that their Head of State and his family are not involved in any form of drugs or child-porno.
When crownprince Frederik became engaged to Mary Donaldson there was never anything about an investigation or a permission from the Parliament about the marriage.

You still have yet to explain about this Child Pornography comment.

You hold a ridiculously high account of people then. Mary is human, she is bound to make mistakes.
However this is not one of them.
Mary will not be the head of state, her husband will.
On October 8th 2003, Parliament gave their permission for the couple to Mary, why should they've been an investigation?

 

[sjetajiem]

Reading the article in the australian Daily Telegraph I strongly get the impression that there is a stronger connection between the child pornograph user and Mary. They know each other better.
Mary will not be the head of state but she is the consort and receives tax-payers money for her maintenance.
People has the right to demand clearness and spotlessness from those receiving tax-payers money

 

[greenways]

Saw tabloid claims that the Queen told Mary off - how can we know what was said and how it was said? If they had a chat about mixing with certain people, it surely would have been a discreet disussion!

 

[UserDane]

I think that someone holding a position as future Queen should be spotless!!
People should be confident that their Head of State and his family are not involved in any form of drugs or child-porno.
When crownprince Frederik became engaged to Mary Donaldson there was never anything about an investigation or a permission from the Parliament about the marriage.
In our democracy (Holland) there will always be a parliamentary investigation about blunders made by Royals or Politicians

Firstly, I don't know what that child pornography you keep referring to is about. Have you heard something the Danes haven't??

Secondly, just because things are not done in Denmark the way you are used to seeing them done in Holland, does not mean that nothing is investigated or permitted. The queen gave her permission to the marriage. Do you seriously believe she would do that without a prior detailed checkup of the prospective daughter in law? And do you seriously believe that the queen would get away with permitting the marriage if Parliament had been against it?

Yes, Holland is a democracy, but, surprise, other countries can actually be democraties as well - even if they do things a bit differently than in Holland!

 

[Madame Royale]

I believe this may shed some light on the above's judgement. Note it's in the Entertainment section!

In a further blow, a central member of Mary's charity was charged with a string of offences relating to the imprisonment and assault of an escort worker at his luxury villa.
The financier allegedly held the woman against her will for up to six hours last weekend after she saw child pornography on his computer.

Crown Princess Mary 'scolded' over drug-bust friend Rigmor Zobel | News.com.au (Note: This is the exact same article posted on the Daily Telegraphs web page)

If true, then the man in question will be dealt with in accordance to the law. Secondly, if he hasn't resigned willingly, I'm certain his got no choice in the matter. Thirdly, I see not how this can reflect upon the Crown Princess. What someone has on their private computer at home is of no knoweldge to anyone else unless it's accidentily found. And lets be realistic, it may be just as possible for any of us to know someone with a perverted nature but we're hardly going to know it are we? Like it's something they want to make public knowledge.

This is a very unfortunate set of circumstances that suround the Crown Princess and her good name!

 

[sgl]

I've always been a fan of the Danish royal family; however, this article is rather disturbing. IF this allegation against the man involved in Mary's charity proves to be true, then Mary needs to take every step possible to distance herself from this person (and hopefully she will, as this is a very serious crime). I would like to know where the writers of this article got their information.